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Islam's UFC domination and she left WHAT on the bench?!

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What happens when an unexpected injury reshuffles the entire fight card of UFC 311? We dive into the thrilling turn of events after Arman Tsarukyan's unanticipated injury, which paved the way for Renato Moicano to showcase his courage against a formidable lightweight contender. From Bogdan Guskov's victory to Peyton Talbott's surprising defeat, we explore how these outcomes might shape the fighters' futures, particularly for the young Talbot who has much potential to unlock. Plus, we dissect the main card's notable moments, including Kevin Holland's unexpected submission loss to Reinier de Ridder and Jailton Almeida's ground game masterclass against Sergey Spivak.

Islam Makhachev's title defense against Renato Moicano takes center stage as we celebrate his dominant performance and speculate on what the future holds for him in the lightweight division. We discuss the betting landscape during the fight, underscoring the magnitude of Islam's victory over Moicano, and consider the intriguing possibilities of future matchups with fighters like Arman Tsarukyan and Charles Oliveira. With Islam's ambition possibly pulling him into a heavier weight class, the UFC's competitive landscape promises some strategic and captivating matchups ahead.

As we gear up for an exhilarating fight night in Saudi Arabia, anticipation builds for marquee matchups featuring Israel Adesanya against Nassourdine  Imavov and the clash between Shara Bullet and Michael Venom Page. We then lighten the mood by sharing some of the most bizarre and cringe-worthy work stories from our listeners, ranging from chaotic client meetings to awkward restaurant encounters. These tales offer a humorous respite and ensure a varied listening experience that promises both laughter and insight.

Alan:

Welcome back to Peak Points and thank you for listening to the second episode. We have a great one for you today. It's going to be a UFC 311 reaction We're going to react. A UFC 311 reaction. We're going to react to some of the prelims and the main card. And then we got some Reddit reacts for this episode. Some Reddit reacts, some juicy ones in this episode. Oh yeah, some explicit content. So if you're under 18, don't tell your mom. Oh God, if you guys want to go ahead and skip the MMA talk, go up the road 25, 30 minutes up ahead, skip to the Reddit Reacts and it'll blow your mind. All right, harley, let's get into the octagon.

Harley:

Heck yeah, UFC 311.

Alan:

UFC 311. What a card, even though, newsflash a change of opponent Just about over 24 hours. Arman Tsarukyan pulls out due to back injury. Wow.

Harley:

It was quite the upset.

Alan:

Yeah, renato Moicano steps up last second and shout out to him and the fact that he's brave enough to take on one of the greatest lightweights to do it in on short notice. But what's trippy about him is that he did say it a couple interviews back. A while back he did say that I believe they signed him up for the backup fighter for that and he was hoping. He was saying I hope that, I hope that our arman gets injured.

Alan:

I hope he gets injured because I'm ready to step up, even though let's, let's be real here.

Harley:

Uh, he got bodied in the first round, so yes, yes, but he still walked away with a pretty decent paycheck, I would assume yeah he walked away with that money that he's always talking about that money, you know.

Alan:

So we're going to go ahead and start this off. We'll talk about some of the prelims that I want to go ahead and highlight real quick. Bogdan Guskov got the win. I know you guys were really interested in that one because it was really close in the odds for that one. And then we got that fraud check. Peyton talbott wow, he fraud check, fraud check. He got fraud checked because he got body bagged and all the hype was behind him.

Harley:

Oh,

Alan:

minus 1100 for him to win that plus 700 Rioni Barcelos pulls it out. What he's like? 10 years older than him and you know all the odds were against him, literally. So, peyton Talbott, you know I hope he doesn't see this as a complete loss. You know, maybe he'll work on his wrestling more, and he'll work on becoming a more complete fighter.

Harley:

I mean, he's super young. Hopefully he uses it as motivation rather than defeat.

Alan:

Yeah, he lost his zero there, but I don't see it as much of a loss, especially being that he's still up and coming and there's still a lot more to go down. Right you know how old is he? He's only 26 years old, so there's definitely a lot more to go down, right. You know how old is he? He's only 26 years old, so there's definitely a lot of time. Yeah, he still has a lot of tread on those tires.

Harley:

He sure does.

Alan:

Yeah. So I hope he doesn't see it as a complete loss. I hope he sees it as a road to advancement. After that, we had the main card, Kevin Holland versus Reinier de Ridder, and lost in first round submission. De Ridder choked him out. You know, yeah, what I will say about Kevin Holland. I'm going to keep it short and I'm going to keep it not so sweet, but I think that he needs to prepare a lot better. I know that he did an interview recently with rampage Jackson in his podcast and he stated that he doesn't really care about the outcome and yeah, I kind of see that kind of came through on his fighting honestly, because he didn't seem that into it no, he didn't seem that into it, he didn't.

Alan:

He was certainly not hungry for the win from what I could tell Absolutely, and you know a lot of people like that about him. They like that he's carefree and nonchalant and blase and that he talks in the cage. But at the end of the day, if you're going to talk, there's going to come a time where you really have to walk the walk and get some wins, he's not looking for championship goals, but they're going to stop calling you if all you're doing is taking L's Right.

Alan:

So that's all I'm going to say about Kevin Holland. I know that he has a really big following. I know a lot of fans like Kevin Holland. I myself am a big fan of Kevin Holland's tenacity and his fight style and how he never gives up, even though he clearly gave up in this one. After that, Jailton Almeida versus Sergey Spivak that was that heavyweight bout. What a surprise performance by Almeida.

Harley:

Yeah, honestly, I really enjoyed that. It's not too often that you see that much groundwork at that weight level, you know.

Alan:

No, definitely not at that weight class and definitely not at that kind of speed that they were working at. And he even got performance of the night for that one, for that round one KO, tko at 453. So that was a great performance by Jailton Almeida, definitely. And then we have the one that really turned me up that night man was Jiri versus Jamal.

Harley:

Hill yeah, that was a fight.

Alan:

What a performance. We have a new mythical character, unlocked Head Movement Jiri. He said he was going to put his hands up, but after the first round he was like, forget about it.

Harley:

Yeah, even in the first round he was struggling to remember to pull his hands back up.

Alan:

Yeah, and Jamal Hill ain't no slouch, you know.

Harley:

It wasn't completely backfiring on him at least.

Alan:

It was working because he was using the head moment to his advantage and using counter punches, which was really amazing to see, and he put up another case for a third fight against Alex, even though I'm not really that too hyped about it.

Harley:

Because I feel like it might just be the same outcome.

Alan:

And then after that, who wants to keep seeing Jiri get knocked out?

Harley:

by him. You know there is that, but also Alex's eyeing going up in weight, not going back down.

Alan:

No, I mean we still have his fight that just got announced recently versus Magomed Ankalaev And that should be a really big test for him as far as what his tool bag brings to the challenge. You know.

Harley:

Oh for sure. Yeah, he's shown himself to be quite adept on his feet, but we'll have to see how he works when he's not.

Alan:

Absolutely how he works in the clinch and how he works on the ground. But we'll go ahead and keep talking about Jiri, because that was an amazing performance by Jerry and I can't get over how great, he looked, he did quite well.

Harley:

I mean, he, he took it. He took it hard from jamal, but he, he dished it out even better yeah, and he got performance of the night as well.

Alan:

He got a bonus as well for that third round ko tko and jamal hill. He brought it to. Unfortunately, he was a little slow on his steps and I feel like that's kind of what led to his loss this night.

Harley:

I've seen it mentioned before, but his footwork definitely could use some improvement.

Alan:

Yeah, absolutely. I mean he was just a step behind Jerry the whole night and that was pretty evident after the first round. I would say it was kind of on Jiri's side as far as the striking goes.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

That was great to see. That was really great to see. And what an amazing fight. And now these two fights right here, absolutely well, more Marab, more than anything, blew me away.

Harley:

Yeah well, there was a lot more to observe in that fight.

Alan:

There was a lot more to observe on that fight absolutely, and Marab was plus 250. I'm just going to put that out there, that the champ was not the favorite that night. And Umar you know, everybody kind of saw him as going to be a dominant performance by him. Uh, however, marab took the show.

Alan:

He definitely uh withstood all the strikes that umar could bring you know he showboated through the whole thing he withstood, uh, the wrestling showed his takedown defense and guess what? He broke a, broke a record as well for most UFC takedowns, most UFC takedowns in that one, and with 92, he beats the great George St Pierre. And he still has more to go, a couple more fights, a couple more championship defenses. So I'm sure he's going to keep on going and that number is just going to grow. Oh, I'm sure he's going to keep on going and that number is just going to grow.

Harley:

Oh, I'm sure he's an amazing fighter, all things considered.

Alan:

Amazing. I really hope that people see that his skill set brings a lot to the division. It kind of leaves people scratching their head right now as to who can really take that crown from him right now. Right, you know, I don't know what's going to happen in the division. Sean O'Malley I don't think he's going to get an immediate chance back at the belt and Umar's definitely not going to get a rematch.

Harley:

Not for a minute. Yeah, Not for a minute. I think Sean O'Malley needs to prove himself again, you know with other fighters, before he gets a second chance.

Alan:

Yeah, absolutely. And I just want to give a little of my hot take and who I think it should be or what the next matchups should be. I think Sean O'Malley versus Cory Sandhagen oh yeah, that would be amazing. And Umar Nurmagomedov versus Peter Yan Maybe see how that plays out. I think those two fights are the fights to make in that division. I know Henry Cejudo's fighting Dong. We'll see how that plays out for him.

Harley:

Are they newcomers?

Alan:

Henry Cejudo was a champion, former champion, and he was great at his time too, an Olympic wrestler as well. But Murab put him in a body bag, carried around like a little baby, oh jeez. And then he started, you know, biting on his shoulder or something. That was crazy bro.

Harley:

That fight was crazy what.

Alan:

Yep, it was Murab versus Henry Cejudo. That fight was crazy. What? Yep, it was a Marab versus a Henry Cejudo. And everybody thought like, oh, this is going to be a hard battle for Marab to fight a real wrestler. And let's see how that goes. And picked him up like a little baby, threw him on the floor, grabbed his back and just started gnawing on his shoulder what the heck? Like not like actually biting him, but like playful.

Alan:

That Not like actually biting it, but like playful sexual comforting bite. Anyway. So, marab, what a great performance by him against a very dangerous opponent, umar.

Harley:

Yeah, I mean Marab definitely was handling it quite well, but if Merab wasn't careful, umar certainly would have taken him down. He definitely did have to stay on his toes throughout that whole fight.

Alan:

Absolutely, and he went and took that by unanimous decision. I will add, however, Merab said he came in to the fight with an injury, a leg injury, and Umar a little backstory was fighting a fracture in his arm prior and after a couple months he healed. I'm not sure how fast, but he broke his hand in the first or second round, Was it?

Harley:

confirmed that it is broken.

Alan:

I mean, I just saw a video of it today and if it's not broken broken then it looks more like a ham well, yeah, I saw the like an hour after the fight.

Harley:

I saw an image of his hand and it was not comfortable looking, no, that very swollen it looked freaking awful.

Alan:

And I will say, you know, no excuses, and I'm sure that I hope they don't want to go by any excuse route, because Merab was just on fire that night and I think he definitely deserved the win in that one. Oh, he earned it for sure.

Alan:

Yeah, he earned it for sure, and unfortunately we got our main fight of the night, Islam Makachev, originally supposed to fight Arman Tsarukyan In this case. This kind of stuff is crazy. You know when things happen, when you get injured, and it's just very unfortunate that he got injured so close.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

So close to fighting what everybody thought was going to be an amazing matchup Mm-hmm. However, Renato Moicano steps up on 24-hour notice.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

To fight the champ, the most dominant champ, Islam Makachev.

Harley:

Yeah, I mean that's. It's definitely props to him. Yeah. I mean that's, it's definitely props to him for doing that, but on the flip side, he also had literally nothing at all to lose by doing so. No, no, and everything to gain, everything to gain.

Alan:

Everything to gain and I just want to give you a quick look at these odds, for that night was minus 1,200 for Islam plus 750 for Renato Moicano. He would have shocked the world literally, and he would have shocked the odds literally.

Harley:

Well, we've seen a plus 1100 win before. Yeah.

Alan:

I mean we just saw that Peyton Talbot was like minus 1100, and look what happened there. So whoever bet on that marcelo's guy just just to go back to that real quick won a lot of money.

Harley:

Oh yeah, a lot of money. They definitely did yeah, absolutely.

Alan:

But in this case, uh, it didn't go renato's way. He didn't really have anything else to offer. There was like a slight slip, and they did that replay, uh, where islam slipped right it wasn't uh, it wasn't that he got dropped. So I don't really think that renato, you know respect to him, you know had much to offer islam in the sense of you know trying to take that belt away from him.

Harley:

No, it wasn't a very serious challenge for Islam. I think, renato, I don't think he was prepared. I think he thought he was prepared, but I don't think he was prepared for that level of competition.

Alan:

Right and who he was supposed to face Benil Darius. You know, the UFC did state that they set him up. They paid him regardless of if he fought or not. So they definitely, you know, helped him out and so that's fine on that end.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

But point is completely different. Competition, and you know you all the time you go from number 10 to fight the champion.

Harley:

Yeah, to being the number one contender, yeah, and to getting that chance, and you know who knows.

Alan:

You know anything could happen. Mma, math never adds up. However, islam broke a couple records that night and he actually tied Kamaru Usman for most wins in a win streak at 15. So, he's one behind the great Anderson Silva, Yep. So I mean, there's still a lot more tread on the tires. He's only 33 years old. There's still a lot more to go. Yeah, and he also, you know, makes his mark on the lightweight division by passing Khabib Nurmagomedov for most title defenses. Absolutely, yeah, and that was amazing. You know that performance in general.

Harley:

I mean it was very skillful of Islam. I mean there wasn't a whole lot to watch, unfortunately, unlike the Jiri fight, but what there was of it, islam definitely. He mopped the floor with him he mopped the floor with him.

Alan:

However, uh, I don't think that renato's gonna feel too down about it.

Harley:

No, you know, he still got that fat paycheck there's that and he didn't really do anything to actually be ashamed of no he. He just needs to work on his groundwork more if he wants to be a strong contender going forward really.

Alan:

And a funny comment that I saw after that Islam victory was that Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson, a former champion for the UFC, a great legend, he commented that when he went out to Dagestani that Islam hit him with that shit twice. He hit him with that D'Arce choke twice and that's back-to-back. D'arce choke wins One on Dustin Poirier, which was, let's face it, a way, way, way better fight than this one.

Harley:

Yes, it was. The process of getting to that choke was significantly more intense and drawn out.

Alan:

And it just goes to show you how more of a complete fighter Islam is, and probably one of the most complete fighters in the UFC. Obviously, dana White said that that's his pound for pound, so he's putting the oil away from Jon Jones at the moment.

Harley:

That's a pretty big admission coming from him.

Alan:

Pretty big admission coming from Dana White Islam, the pound-for-pound king, and actually that's how I see it too.

Harley:

He's just so dominant so dominant in this division and it also, kind of with that Merab situation, leaves you scratching your head wondering who else has the chance to face him and actually have a challenge for him besides Arman Tsarukyan. Yeah once.

Alan:

Arman Tsarukyan gets his chance again. I'm definitely looking forward to that matchup. However, Dana White said after in a press conference that Arman's not going to get an immediate title shot, and that he's going to have to earn his way back.

Harley:

Which is understandable, but provided he doesn't lose in any of them, I wouldn't imagine he needs more than two fights to get back into contending.

Alan:

Yeah, it really depends. I know that Charles Oliveira is foaming at the mouth for that opportunity and he's next according to him, he's next according to him, and I wouldn't mind seeing that. But however you know, charles did lose to Armin, like recently. That was a recent loss. Recently, that was a recent loss, uh-huh, you know, we've seen it before. Coming from a loss to, it's all about timing and how fickle the sport is and how the schedules change and stuff like that True that.

Alan:

True. So it really just depends on the situation. But Charles could be up next for that belt and we could see. You know Islam has been canvassing, you know quietly to try to go up in weight class. However, he doesn't want to face Belal Muhammad. But I think if Shavkat beats Belal Muhammad in that division for that belt, I think that might be a little enticing for Islam to go up to 170 and try to get that other belt because he's adamant that he wants a second belt before he retires.

Harley:

Right. What's his current weight?

Alan:

155, lightweight division.

Harley:

Okay, 15 pounds wouldn't be that ridiculous to gain.

Alan:

No, and he's already large for the division. A lot of people do say that he's pretty big for that lightweight division.

Harley:

He definitely has to do some serious cutting to get into there.

Alan:

Yeah, he does, and I think that you place islam in india division, and I think he's dominant just um as far as all the elements of his tool bag goes and how many things he brings to the cage even outside of his weight class I think even outside of his weight class man, and it's funny because they had this conversation in the first.

Harley:

I don't see him being that much of a threat to john jones or alex, just just saying I mean I mean I'm sure he, he could be a threat, but I don't, I don't, he's, he's.

Alan:

He's a decently amount smaller than either of those two funny that you mentioned that, because some people define pound for pound king and the pound for pound rankings as if Jon Jones and Islam were the same weight and height, weight and size who would come out on top, and in this case pound for pound king happens to be Islam, so I think he's dangerous in other divisions, but not like too crazy in weight, I think 170. I think, he can make 170.

Harley:

I would imagine to circle back to the pound-for-pound business. That's kind of a sticky subject to me because—.

Alan:

You and Dana White. He wants Jon Jonesones no, not.

Harley:

Not because I want to glaze anyone. I'm just saying that the way you fight is different depending on the weight class you're in, because the larger guys they hit harder and so you have to fight differently to account for that. Where, like the sheer number of punches that, like we were discussing last episode, that Holloway throws, that virtually impossible in a heavyweight match.

Alan:

That'd be crazy.

Harley:

Like Ngannou imagine him either throwing or receiving even half of those punches.

Alan:

Point to the ground Ngannou style, yeah.

Harley:

I mean just consider like the number of punches couldn't really be withstood if they were significant, I mean.

Alan:

Right, not by any normal human.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

Yeah, However, point is Islam Makachev had an amazing performance.

Harley:

Yeah, I'm not trying to detract from that at all.

Alan:

He had an amazing performance. He didn't really take that much damage and hell. I even think he's ready to fight again this year.

Harley:

Fairly soon, easily.

Alan:

Maybe against Charles Do bronx Olivero We'll see what happens with that division. Maybe another rematch versus Charles and Arman. I don't know if I see that happening. I don't know if I like that happening.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

I feel bad man. I really feel bad for Arman. If that is the case that he had an injury, some people say it's a theory, some people say he just couldn't make the weight. I'm not certain, but it's definitely an unfortunate scenario that we did not see Islam versus Armin at UFC 311. However, what a great card nonetheless.

Harley:

Oh yeah, for sure.

Alan:

I honestly was pretty hyped by every fight on this card Really, besides the Kevin Holland one.

Harley:

It wasn't very exciting.

Alan:

No, I just felt like it wasn't a good performance on his end and I think that he needs to reevaluate his camp and how he goes about his training and where he sees himself. Yeah, maybe he's in the wrong weight class. Maybe he needs to go to a lower weight class. I know he doesn't want to cut the weight, but I just don't. Back to the drawing board, as they say.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

And before we go ahead and move on from the cage Harley, there is a fight night that I'm very excited about. Full card is out Saturday, february 1st, 10 am. Really Mountain Standard Time it's going to be with.

Harley:

Israel.

Alan:

Adesanya, first fight night in I don't know what, like five or six years dude, it's been a long time. And he's fighting Nassourdine Imavov, a nasty up-and-comer, and he's a beast man. And actually the odds are fairly close on that one Minus 162 for Adesanya Plus 136. So it's, I think, more of a closer fight than anything. And then we have shara bullet like a med off where's where is this being held then?

Alan:

uh, so of course this is going to be in saudi arabia, gotcha um his his, where he's usually at, you know well, yeah, I know he can't compete in the united states yeah, shara the pirateate versus Michael Venom Page.

Harley:

MVP. Oh, that should be an interesting fight, that should be very, very very exciting. They're both very interesting fighters and see those two tangles are going to be. That's going to be really interesting to see.

Alan:

Absolutely. You got Shara coming from that.

Harley:

What double spinning backfist that he did Spinning elbow Back elbow. I thought it was elbow, wasn't it?

Alan:

I think it was a double spinning back fist. He hit him with the first one and then he did a switch to the other one. That was absolutely amazing too.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

And we got Michael Venom Page coming from his loss from Ian Gary and let's see if he's trying to avenge that loss. Mm-hmm. We got Sergey Pavlovich versus jairzinho Rozenstruik. This is going to be a banger of a heavyweight fight.

Harley:

Oh, it's heavyweight, huh.

Alan:

And someone's probably going to go to sleep in this one. As we know, sergey Pavlovich. He recently lost to Volkov. That was an amazing fight, not for him. He got bodied by Volkov. That was an amazing fight, not for him. He got bodied by Volkov and that was a great performance by Volkov.

Harley:

Oh, Volkov sounds familiar.

Alan:

Volkov just won against. Well, he lost against cyril gane by decision, but in my opinion he won. So I don't know.

Harley:

It was a very controversial decision. That's where he sounds familiar from it was a very controversial decision.

Alan:

Serovgan broke his toesies on that one, Sergei Pavlovich Rosenstruik, and then we got Nurmagomedov, Said Nurmagomedov.

Harley:

Remember the last name. Have I seen this one fight?

Alan:

No, I mean, I don't think I've even really seen him fight. He's 18 and3 right now. Wow yeah, pretty surprising for him. He's going against Vinicius Oliveira. And then we've got Ikram Alaskarov, who we saw lose against Robert Whittaker by knockout. He ate a nasty uppercut. We watched that one. He's actually fighting Andre Munoz in a middleweight bout, so that's a really nasty card. We're going to see Adesanya back in a fight night versus Imavov, an absolute banger coming from the Riyadh, saudi Arabia, and that's going to be Saturday, february 1st. So go ahead and make sure you tune in.

Harley:

For sure. That sounds like a very interesting series of fights.

Alan:

I should say I mean absolutely Just those two fights alone Israel versus Imavov, shara versus MVP.

Harley:

that's going to be a really great fight night.

Alan:

Yeah, those two alone will make it worth it. Really great fight night and we're actually spoiled with that card.

Harley:

Yeah.

Alan:

Spoiled that that's not a pay-per-view card. I don't know, man. It's a strange sight to see Israel in a fight night, and we've just seen him in so many championship bouts and so many pay-per-views. It's a weird sight to see, actually. And with that, harley, that pretty much wraps the ufc talk for today. All righty, let's go ahead and get into some of them.

Harley:

Reddit reacts oh man hope we have our hand sanitizer ready because it's about to get nasty. Thank, you All. Right, alan, to start off the day, I think I'm going to go off of the Ask Reddit subreddit, and the question on that is what is one crazy story from work that you've been waiting to tell?

Alan:

Oof.

Harley:

And this one, this one is a doozy. Oh, it's by moss. Underscore Tacos. Underscore Gooey G-U-E-Y.

Alan:

Moss, tacos, gooey.

Harley:

I work at a law firm and I regularly go all over the state of California to meet some off-the-wall prospective clients who are seeking representation for various reasons. For various reasons, there was this one time that I met with a client seeking damages for injuries resulting from a car accident which occurred as a result of a police pursuit. I arrived at the client's address, which happened to be a manager's house at a storage unit facility. I walk into the place and it was complete madness. There had to be at least five people living in a makeshift one-bedroom apartment. I'm already over this meeting at this point, but I have to follow through.

Harley:

I sit down with the client to talk about her case in what I'm guessing was a garage added onto the apartment. One of her roommates in quotations comes into the garage and, without saying a word to us, he starts working out on the weight bench. Of course he starts blurring some random death metal for his workout. I roll with the punches and keep my conversation on course. A few minutes go by and the guy finishes his workout. Following he proceeds out the room to go have loud sex in the room above the garage. Oh shit.

Alan:

A bunch of meth heads.

Harley:

And in parentheses I started to smell the chemicals. Of course they were being proper hosts and he offered me some of his meth. At this point I'm over it. I packed my stuff and just left, man. That Harley is messed up yes, that would be a messed up incident, man they're tweaked, the tweakers over there yeah, I mean all of the.

Harley:

It's so hard to find one thing to start talking about on this. There's just so much to unpack. Yeah, with so many people living in a converted one-bedroom apartment, that's just wild, especially if you would set up to have someone meet you there to discuss legal matters it's a trap.

Alan:

House it's a trap like their, their world view and how they think things should happen is beyond my understanding however, I will add, at least he was a very gracious host and offered the meth, that is, you know wow you know, especially since this person wasn't that person's guest exactly but in his head he's like, oh yeah, this is my guest here. Sharing is caring, absolutely yeah, I mean sharing is caring, but I don't know if I'm gonna go around sharing my needle or whatever. The hell or whatever they're smoking meth right.

Alan:

Whatever they're smoking the meth but it's like God damn bro. Yeah, I don't know, dude, you can't trust those meth heads. You got to check your wallet, you know.

Harley:

Yeah, I've entered houses that were probably not exactly like that, but probably rather similar. Oh shit, and it is never a fun experience to enter a house where there's that many people living Right, given that there's that many people living in such a small area, and people are smoking meth and presumably weed and probably cigarettes. I hate to say it, but I can just about smell what that house would have smelled like it's a crack house, yeah.

Alan:

I definitely don't want to go ahead and add that to a candle scent.

Harley:

Oof no please.

Alan:

Oh my god, winter Breeze. Meth edition.

Harley:

Alright, so there's another story on that that I believe you wanted to read.

Alan:

Yeah, what is one crazy story from work that you've been waiting to tell? I got one. This is from Toast underscore and underscore Jam 24.

Harley:

All right.

Alan:

He said. My coworkers often talk of the incident that occurred about a year before I started working at my job. Apparently, one sweltering, blistering, humid day, an obese woman entered the shop to order some food. The industrial ovens were working full blast and, as there is no ac in the building, everyone was understandably miserable. Yeah, the obese woman apparently had poor hygiene and immediately filled the small shop with heinous mixed scents of armpit sweat and stank ass.

Harley:

Oh God.

Alan:

More than likely swampy. She paid for her food, sat on the waiting bench by the door and began to scratch under her fatty rolls. My unhappy co-workers hurried to finish her order so she would leave. They had just placed her sandwich in the oven when the woman began to fidget uncontrollably. She lumbered to her feet, started to speak, then changed her mind and sat back down. She squirmed about for a couple minutes and a couple moments later she stood again and rushed out the shop without her food. After the initial confusion, my coworkers were horrified to discover that she had left a greasy puddle of diarrhea on the bench and floor.

Harley:

No no.

Alan:

The smell was reportedly horrible. Oh God, One coworker, pregnant at the time, rushed out gagging.

Harley:

I could imagine.

Alan:

I could imagine the other two, after a few minutes of silent horror which I'm assuming was shock pulled on gloves and carried the bench out to the back alley where they attempted to hose it down. May I mention that the bench was wooden, old and chipped.

Harley:

Oh no.

Alan:

And it seemed to have absorbed the greasy uh S with joy. Oh no, yes, it was unsalvageable and it repeatedly stunk up the entire alley until it was taken out with the garbage three days later.

Harley:

Oh no.

Alan:

Even after mopping and bleaching the floor below the bench, the entire shop smelled so terrible they had to close for the rest of the day. I hear the shop owner even gave everybody an extra $20 in their paycheck after he heard what happened.

Harley:

I mean good on him for offering something, but $20 seems unfortunately a small amount for dealing with bodily fluids in a scenario when you're not supposed to be dealing with bodily fluids.

Alan:

No, especially with something that's not actually supposed to be fluid, exactly. It's like one of those um, I don't get paid enough for this, or where's that in my job description, you know? Yeah, oh, I mean with the poopy stuff on the floor and I'm assuming it's a tiny shop.

Harley:

I think I walk out. I've been in a little bakery that I can't even imagine.

Alan:

Yeah, that's a walking out kind of scenario right there, where you just have to. You know, hey, this is the end. I'm never coming back here again. Oh, my word bro.

Harley:

I would hope that lady never went back.

Alan:

How could she ever come back and show her face again? But people are bold man. Some people are. People are bold. I wouldn't doubt. Maybe she just goes through the drive-thru now.

Harley:

God, Biohazard bench too.

Alan:

Yeah, oh my God. And if the lady was already stinky, something was going on. Something was, what's the word? Ruminating, oh.

Harley:

God. Yeah, I mean that kind of applies, yeah.

Alan:

Oh man, it's just tough for that guy. I wouldn't want to be working there at the moment. Luckily he missed it.

Harley:

Yeah, luckily he missed it. Yeah, luckily he the poster missed it yeah luckily he when he gets the backstory.

Alan:

But I mean, the other people were champions, then if they stayed there, I mean as horrible as it is.

Harley:

It is technically a bonding experience.

Alan:

Bonding.

Harley:

Bonding through trauma.

Alan:

Wow.

Harley:

There is that.

Alan:

Yeah, I think that was the lady's intention was god?

Harley:

I would hope not to make everybody bond. She's like man I'm about to make this a great team I'm about to shit on these fools.

Alan:

I mean she obviously got up to ask, probably for the restroom and she just couldn't control. It's like, oh, they don't, they're not restroom. And then she just couldn't control it.

Harley:

She's like, oh, they're not going to have a public one, I won't make it in time.

Alan:

I won't make it in time.

Harley:

Well then.

Alan:

Personal preference, I guess.

Harley:

All right now to continue. Same question what is one crazy story that you've been waiting to tell? This is a pine saw underscore junkie nurse. Here I have a lot of crazy stories.

Harley:

One night it was close to shift change and I went to check on my elderly lady with dementia, since I hadn't heard her scream in a while, and in parentheses, kind of like when a toddler is quiet, you start to worry, right. Anyway, I stood at the door of room 524, and I saw her silhouette in a weird praying sort of position. I turned on the light and she was covered in feces. My jaw about hit the floor. Shit was on the bed, rails, the floor, the wall etc. I made a motion to the tech and said Come here, you need to see this. After some coaxing I lured the tech over. We both gawked. We looked at each other and decided day shift would kill us if we left her like that. Mmm girl, she gonna throw it. The tech said wisely.

Harley:

I convinced another nurse to help us clean up the shitty mess and we geared up in full Ebola stuff. My patient did not react well. She screeched criticisms the whole time and tried to help. My supervisor stood in the doorway and laughed. Eventually my batty old patient decided she'd had about enough of bath time and started throwing gooey feces. She looked at me and screeched You're going to hell. The image has forever been burned into my brain.

Alan:

Wow.

Harley:

Another time I was clocking in and a naked guy ran down the hall screaming. I thought about calling in sick right there at the time clock. I walked past his room on my way to huddle and saw him crying hysterically in his room while a bunch of white coats tried to console him. One of the docs was saying something like it's's okay, no one is judging you, we all make mistakes. Oh wow, what a mistake. One time my patient abruptly shouted Get up in here and wash my Holy shit.

Alan:

Where the Does she work at?

Harley:

A hospital. Anyway, it was so loud that literally everyone heard. I've never been so embarrassed in my life and, last but not least, another time. I was doing some mandatory stroke education and watching a video in the nurse's station. Then I got that universal creepy feeling that I was being watched. I turned around and there was an enormously obese, shirtless guy just standing behind me watching the stroke education video with me. It turns out he was violent and confused and somehow bungled his way into the nurse's station. He ultimately ended up taking a sedation vacation in the ICU.

Alan:

A sedation vacation. I think we all need one of those. Then I'll get my eight hours of sleep.

Harley:

There you go. It'd be a novel experience for you, oh it's okay, I just took a sedation vacation vacation with no explanation.

Alan:

Oh, in the nurse's station. A nurse's station, oh man, that's. That's kind of scary. I mean, it kind of makes you wonder, like, of those places that work at, the people that work at, the like, the asylums and whatnot those are kind of scary to me.

Harley:

I'm like damn, like, well, there's a reason why, ultimately, a lot of them end up just living the rest of their lives on some form of a sedation, I mean right, because when they're not sedated, they become wildly unmanageable or violent or just shitty in a very literal sense. And then shit hits the fan in the literal sense I mean, oh, I'm not saying it's great or what should happen, but I completely understand it from the caretaker's perspective, because could you handle, I don't know, in a facility that houses 80 people.

Alan:

No, I can't even handle one person.

Harley:

Having incidents happen like that daily. If you're lucky, only once a day per person 80 different shit incidents a day. Could you imagine that?

Alan:

I mean, do they get paid enough for that?

Harley:

Nah, not even remotely.

Alan:

I think. I mean our medical professionals are underappreciated, and this opened up my eyes, you know.

Harley:

Yeah, I mean presumably this lady was just at a normal hospital.

Alan:

I mean, I don't know.

Harley:

I know a lot of things happen in hospitals, yeah because people are not in their right state of mind when they're in a hospital.

Alan:

No, I mean I know they see a lot and I know they go through a lot and their hours, hours are stupid, insane.

Harley:

Honestly, it's genuinely stupid. There's people who've been working for 12 hours should not be like 12 hours straight should not be, you know, making life or death decisions.

Alan:

Yeah I mean imagine, after a 12-hour shift, having to go through the and some of them do doubles going through yeah, do doubles. And going through that poopy lady and you're like, oh my god, you want to pull your hair out, you know. I mean, yeah, sheesh, do they really get paid enough for that? I mean it sounds difficult, it sounds like a special type of person is what it takes to be in that position.

Harley:

Yeah, mad respect for nurses. All healthcare professionals, really All healthcare professionals, yeah, but nurses, especially because they're the ones who are like in the trenches, dealing with patients in and out. Doctors tend to be very to the point and then they have to go do their charts and all that.

Alan:

Aye, aye aye. I mean, yeah, hopefully she gets to decompress after seeing all that.

Harley:

Yeah, I would say so. Now we've had an unfortunately shit-oriented episode so far.

Alan:

This is a shitty episode.

Harley:

Maybe we can elevate ourselves out of the latrine. Shall we say what do you have for us next?

Alan:

I mean, you ever gone to a place and someone mistake that you work there?

Harley:

it's like you work here, sir I've been asked if I worked there, but never had someone insist that I work there yeah, there's some people who can be very, very insistent, like in this subreddit where I have here.

Alan:

I don't work here, lady, and this post was by monkey underscore bullet under the title of if you look Asian, you must work here. Oh God, I've lived in the US since 1991, originally from Taiwan, and spent years working in a corporate office where I wore a suit daily. I often visit a small, family-owned Chinese restaurant in the neighborhood as part of my daily routine. It's a Ma and Pa place where I feel comfortable and known. One particular incident there stuck with me, though. One evening after work I decided to stop by to order some takeouts for dinner. I placed my order at the counter and stood near the entrance waiting for my food. The mother who had taken my order returned to the kitchen to prepare her while the husband worked as the chef. Their two young kids were seated in the booth doing their homework.

Alan:

As I stood there in my suit, people walked in with a raised hand. An older woman barely glanced at me and signaled four fingers while announcing four people for dinner. Sir, I turned to her and I quickly. I turned to her and quickly realized what she what was happening. She thought I worked at the restaurant. I smiled and politely said sorry, I don't, don't work here. She looked at me puzzled and asked what do you mean? At this point I was getting a little annoyed by her persistence, so I replied more firmly Lady, I don't work here, I'm just here to pick up my dinner. Undeterred, she raised her voice slightly and doubled down. I've seen you here before. You work here. Oh God, he's in a suit In a small mom and pop Chinese restaurant.

Harley:

You see that all the time. What the f-? She's seen him there before.

Alan:

Bro. He out here looking like Squid Games bro, and she think he worked there. I've seen you here before you work here. I shook my head, keeping a polite but forced smile, and responded Sorry, I've never worked here, but I guess all us Asians look alike, right? Oh no, at the moment one of the little girls doing her homework let out a small laugh. Just then the mother came out with my food. I thanked her graciously and left without giving the rude woman another glance. As I walked out, I heard the little girl telling her mom what had happened.

Harley:

Oh my god, man, I mean that's, that's pig-headed.

Alan:

Uh, obstinacy plus racism, damn. And there's actually a comment that's kind of a funny different version of that. He says the door Viking says I got a similar one being a ginger in an Irish pub. He says they asked me for a drink and I said certainly your drink will be right out. Then I just went and sat back at the bar. I'm Welsh anyway. Now that's a valid response for sure. Oh man, I love it. Dude, these are some funny ones.

Harley:

Um, we might have to cut down on the shitty ones, though yeah to to maybe elevate us out of out of the latrine again. I think we have time for at least one more, and I'll continue on with our initial theme of what is one crazy story from work that you've been waiting to tell, and this one is mystery by mystery. Underscore teabagger. He must have played Halo a lot.

Alan:

Teabagger.

Harley:

I used to work at this local pizza joint. My first day on the job, I get in at 9 am, my manager, jake, asks me to help put away the order, hands me a case of something and tells me to put it in the walk-in. First thing I see when I open the cooler door is a bong. Hey, jake, there's a bong in here. Oh, that's Eric's. Who's Eric? The owner, eric. So then the next thing we have to do before opening is make a delivery to a gas station that sold pizza by the slice.

Harley:

On the way back to the restaurant, I jokingly said to my trainer we should stop at your house and take bong hits. He immediately says that's a good idea and turns the car around to go back to his house where we each took a bong hit. When we get back to the store obviously late the first thing our boss says is Jesus Christ, how many bong hits did you guys take? My trainer tells him just one, and and that was that. I tried to learn as much as I could for the first day, but I was so stupidly high that I could barely talk. I ended up working there for four years, oh wow wow, I guess that's what they like is the babblinger I mean it's a good way to uh gain crew cohesion.

Alan:

I guess, I guess they know he's not a snitch. Yeah, if you do not smoke this, we have a problem. Oh God, no, I don't want to smoke the bong, dude. Oh man, I mean, yeah, I mean he's lucky that they're cool, they're chill, right. Because what if he was like, shouldn't we go take a couple bong hits, like marijuana, the devil's lettuce, sir.

Harley:

I mean, there is that, but I'm not sure I would care to have someone who is so high that they could barely string together a coherent thought, creating my pizza, you know.

Alan:

Right, right. What if it's upside down?

Harley:

I mean upside down. Maybe he uh sneezed directly into my pizza and didn't think about it.

Alan:

I hate the thought of that.

Harley:

Anyway, in general, everywhere I go, right, uh, but if you're, you're so high you can barely string together a coherent thought. You're not. You're not really giving a shit about if you're coughing or sneezing in any one direction. You're not caring about washing your hands or putting on new gloves if you just touch something on the floor and licking the pepperonis and putting them on yet god, I'd hope they wouldn't go that far, but geez, yeah it's possible.

Alan:

I just don't want to see that there's actually a movie. What's it called? It's called uh, it's a restaurant movie, dude. It's freaking funny with uh uh ryan reynolds I think I may have seen that oh something about steakhouse or something. Yeah, so they're at a steakhouse and uh there, if there's a rude customer, that's how they repay them in the back of house. You know, it always makes me wonder what they do in the back with my food.

Harley:

Yeah, that's why I've always been very patient and polite and kind to my waiters and waitresses if something's wrong, I try to be super understanding, not complainy partially because I've seen that movie and partially, because, well, it's just being nice good manner.

Alan:

I usually just beg them to tell the chef to not spit on my food, and maybe a nice little coin for you at the end? Yeah, maybe. What's this on my mashed potatoes? Is that

Harley:

Is that Parmesan or is that dandruff?

Alan:

Yeah, it was shit bro. That was one of the scenes.

Harley:

That was one of the scenes and the avocado.

Alan:

And then he was like oh, how about some avocado? You can't have steakhouse with intercontinental food. Oh my word, bro. No, I mean he got lucky by finding the right vibe at that place and staying there for those days.

Harley:

He definitely seemed to fit in with the vibe that was already there. Fit in.

Alan:

Like a glove.

Harley:

Alright, everyone, and with that, this episode of Peak Points is over. We look forward to seeing you again for next episode and, as always, keep your gloves up. Do please follow, like, subscribe, do all the things so that you can hear us again. Thank you, and have a good one, peace.

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