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UFC 312 Reaction and When I close my eyes, I still hear the screams!
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Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us on another episode of Peak Points. We have a banger of an episode for you today. We have a banger of an episode for you today. It's going to be a UFC 312 reaction as well as a quick look at two of the most interesting fights from UFC Fight Night 250. And that's Israel Zesanya's card. And then we got some Reddit reacts. You don't want to miss Harley, let's get into the octagon. Heck yeah, ufc 312. We got Sean Strickland versus ddp man the ducus. What a card man, even though the rest of it was kind of unexpectedly good. I think I know you. We saw that jake matthews fight first one versus the prado yeah, that was pretty entertaining that was pretty entertaining a showcase from jake matthew.
Speaker 1:He kind of showed more experience in that one, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean his counter-striking was really good. He didn't do a lot of attacking, but his counter-striking was pretty darn solid.
Speaker 1:His counter-striking was spot on and that led to that victory Unanimous decision. After that we had that Jimmy Crute guy Business in the front party, in the back, versus Rodolfo Bellotto and I don't really like how that one ended. That one ended in a draw, which was kind of strange to me, but I did like that, that Rodolfo guy. He got rocked in the beginning and then he still managed to stick it out for the last two rounds, which I think he won the last two rounds in my opinion.
Speaker 2:I don't know. On my side, I think the draw was warranted. I'm not wild about it, but I do think it was fairly warranted because Kroot was really dishing it out, and especially in the first like round and especially in the first round but belotto, he really stepped up his game and weathered through it and then started dishing it out once he kind of got into the groove of things and I mean at the of it, neither one of them looked worse than the other.
Speaker 1:No, which was pretty surprising given that first round. Yeah, that first round was kind of rough, where Jimmy put him in a body bag, but hey, you know, he didn't give up, rodolfo did not give up. Just a quick touch on that one. And then that Justin Toffa heavyweight fight that guy was a little knockout streak Versus that, taliesin Teixeira making his debut, the 6'7 dude.
Speaker 2:The size difference was crazy. The shorter one was heavier, which was wild.
Speaker 1:Which was wild, but what a debut performance by that Teixeira guy, because he broke that dude's nose too, I think, man, he broke that dude's nose with that elbow that lightning quick elbow.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it was broke or not, but that had to have really hurt.
Speaker 1:It definitely stunned him pretty good oh yeah, and that was the beginning of the end for him, with a debut from Taliesin Tejera. And then you got my favorite female fighter, Weili Zhang man. Oh man.
Speaker 2:I love this chest dude, that was a fight.
Speaker 1:That was a great fight. Tatiana Suarez was the favorite in that one Mm-hmm, and I kind of saw that she was going to. I thought in the beginning that she was going to give Weili one of the hardest times with that wrestling. You may not know too much about Tatiana Suarez, but she is a great wrestler the two other times I've seen her.
Speaker 2:I mean it was she dominated on the mat and the first round it kind of seemed like she was about to start doing that absolutely but Whaley, she definitely turned it around she turned it around, but she turned it around quick and dc said something very poignant that that fight.
Speaker 1:I believe he said, uh, that sometimes you face somebody who's just that good, you know, yeah, someone who's just that caliber of champion, that you can't really surpass them and you see in the moment why they are the champion why, they are the best in the world, and I think at that moment Tatiana did see Zhang Weili as the best in the world.
Speaker 2:For sure I mean I've seen it in pretty much every weight class, for sure, I mean, I've seen it in pretty much every weight class. You'll have a person, just get onto the scene and they have just the right combination to break through the current rankings based on the way they fight and all that. Like Alex Pereira, oh yeah, and all that. Like Alex Pereira, oh yeah, the way he's striking and all that. And because of his striking and his kickboxing he just mopped the floor with everyone he was up against yeah.
Speaker 2:And just like he's about to face his test of someone who's more well-rounded in the floor game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, UFC 313. Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:And I think this was Suarez's test, if you will.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it really, I mean, she didn't give up at all.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:And she continued putting her best foot forward in the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1:She ate some shots too. Oh yeah, she ate some nasty combos.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying like I think this is a wake-up call for her, in that she needs to become more well-rounded if she wants to have that championship placement and I think that if she developed I think I'm just gonna give a quick tip.
Speaker 1:I know it don't matter what I say, but if she developed, like coach allen over here if she developed an overhand right while doing the takedown, like kind of how marab does, I think that would be very effective. But don't listen to me. Don't listen to me, because I love weili, zhang bro, I don't know, but because she's a great wrestler, dude, tatiana, she really showed oh, yeah, you know some high level wrestling, but zhang weili showed amazing grit, determination, heart well rounded everything.
Speaker 1:She was just everywhere. She put on the show and I think that it's kind of one of those situations where it's like who else can she fight in the division now that she's effectively mopped the floor with the division?
Speaker 2:also. Maybe she's effectively mopped the floor with the division also.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe there's talks of her going up a weight class and facing their champion, which is Shevchenko, which is another great female fighter.
Speaker 2:That would be kind of crazy. I mean she doesn't look like she could hold a lot more weight, really, yeah and I think yeah, because Shevchenko is the perfect weight for that division.
Speaker 1:She's like a natural for that weight class and I think for the straw weight. I think Zhang Weili is kind of small for that division. She's kind of small in general.
Speaker 2:I think yeah she's not a big-boned person, doesn't? Look like she has to cut drastically in order to fit in that division.
Speaker 1:So it's going to be another situation where Shevchenko's the it's going to be her as the favorite, and probably a solid favorite. I think Zhang Weili has to pull out a different kind of bag for that, so I'm not sure who her next opponent is. You know, hats off to tatiana suarez in general and absolutely uh uh, her first loss, and what a person to lose to the one of the greatest female fighters of all time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's not, uh, a black mark on her record to lose to someone who's just dominant in that whole weight class.
Speaker 1:It's not much of a loss and it's more like a learning experience. And then we have another title fight.
Speaker 2:Drikus Duplessis versus Sean Strickland. Sadly, disappointing, sadly disappointing performance from Sean Strickland. Yeah, I mean Duplessis, he did everything really well. I mean he didn't do anything really flashy, he didn't do anything amazing, but he was solid throughout.
Speaker 1:He's definitely getting tired, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2:But who wouldn't? At five rounds? I mean, it's crazy. Very few people hold that much stamina. And when people hold that much stamina and when you're that very, even less people when you're that size.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the people who do keep that kind of stamina are quite small relative to that and he was throwing major strikes just constantly through the fight. He was. I will say that, drikus, his gas tank is not, you know, super crazy, but he was throwing strikes the whole time.
Speaker 2:He was.
Speaker 1:Consistently and he outstrikes Sean Strickland, which is known for a number of strikes. Yeah, you know, and Sean, I mean like you were saying, it was a disappointing performance. He lost unanimously. Everybody thought that Drikus won pretty much every round and let's see where he goes on in the Division 2. He's been talking a lot of shit about Hazmat Jemayev.
Speaker 2:Well, he's just a prolific shit talker.
Speaker 1:Prolific.
Speaker 2:He doesn't even make sense with half of the stuff he says, but he just, he just hates on everybody yeah, I will say, though, how he fights it doesn't really kind of translate to how he talks.
Speaker 1:As far as the crazy stuff he says yeah, the crazy stuff he'd be saying, but the he kind of just is super stoic in the ring I will say, yeah, he definitely was In the octagon.
Speaker 2:I also think he was a bit too conservative. He stuck to his exact same bag of tricks.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And he didn't step it up, he didn't deviate. He's like this has worked before.
Speaker 1:I'm going to just keep doing it and it didn't work no, and I will say he threw less teeps in this one, which are the tiny kicks through the middle that he always throws.
Speaker 2:He did a lot less of those he only did like a few in the first round and maybe the second round too, if I remember right. He certainly wasn't doing many later on in the last few rounds and Drikus.
Speaker 1:He had a great performance. I mean, what else can you say? He had a great performance in general. He uh, stuck it out and he broke sean strickland's nose.
Speaker 2:Oh god, that thing looked nasty admittedly that that definitely killed sean's stride right and it slowed him down. Mm-hmm, and I understand it. I mean holy moly that hurts. That's crazy, I mean. Even so, it was kind of disappointing to see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really was. It really was, not that it was a bad fight. Not that it was a bad fight, no or not particularly entertaining.
Speaker 2:At any moment you really kind of expected something explosive to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's a little unfortunate that nothing explosive did happen.
Speaker 1:And these two fighters have the most unorthodox fighting style. In that division, in that middleweight division, you feel me, they have the most strangest fighting style.
Speaker 2:But DDP, he was fighting a very straightforward game at that time he was. He only did two takedown attempts right, he didn't really do any takedown attempts.
Speaker 1:He was really on the feet the whole time. Hats off to DDP for that if that's how he wanted to go, and he didn't look like he was falling over at any time, which was pretty surprising. You know the whole falling over and then you like miraculously get to take down on someone. Yeah, like you did at Asana where he like fell over and he grabbed his foot somehow. But great performance, drikus. He pulled out like major amounts of strikes, which was great to see it was impressive.
Speaker 1:He mixed it up, he mixed it up, and he mixed it up very well, keeping Sean Strickland on the back end, keeping him scared Before he broke his nose. I was telling you that if round four and five Drikus doesn't do anything significant to Sean, these two rounds he's going to try to take over with the striking.
Speaker 2:I did say that, yeah Right. In round four he broke his nose Three quarters of a round later and then there it was.
Speaker 1:There it was broken nose and he could not keep up the pace even though a lesser man shout out to Sean Strickland would have given up, would have thrown in the towel because, as you said, it's super painful, especially that Dracus, when he saw the blood it was like a freaking shark in water, bro.
Speaker 2:He was like Red flag to a bull. He was just going after it. He was going after it, dude. I think there was a time where he had six strikes in a row just straight to the nose. He didn't connect on all of them, but that was clearly the target.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was aiming and, like I said, shout out to Sean Strickland and the amount of toughness that he showed, because he continued on, for sure. And Harley, I just want to touch on something real quick about that drichus win and what happened after the win. Okay, that's very interesting to me. Uh, we saw alex pareda in sean strickland's corner, kind of ish ish, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I saw him warm body in the general vicinity walked around jama point is he entered the cage being on sean strickland's team? Vicinity, walked around Jama Point, is he entered the cage being on Sean Strickland's team? And Rick has grabbed the mic, walked up and directly to him he stated is there no one else?
Speaker 2:Is there no?
Speaker 1:one else which he said he directly quoted from the movie Troy. He loves that movie, he loves Achilles. He even has a dog named Achilles, which is an interesting little tidbit. Interesting, he said is there no one else? And there is someone else. There is someone else, and that's Hamza Chemaev, who, dana, I believe, pretty much confirmed that he is next for that title shot.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It's going to be a really big test for Drikus. I think more so than anything because what we saw that Hamzat Chimaev did to Robert. Whitaker breaking his freaking face.
Speaker 2:I mean, admittedly that was kind of a medical fluke because of a previous injury, but even still.
Speaker 1:Even still the way he did that.
Speaker 2:Wolverine dive. Well, he went straight for the takedown. He did not want any kind of sweat letting him escape from any kind of move.
Speaker 1:Dived across the cage, dude, he looked like a freaking lion, I think it would be.
Speaker 2:Having heard that, I'm excited to see those two fight, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely Because.
Speaker 2:DDP, I mean he's not orthodox in any aspect of his fighting but. I would like to see him on.
Speaker 1:Do do some mat work and uh dude falling over against hamza and he would be into reversal man.
Speaker 2:It would be hilarious if they both dived at each other at the same time and knock each other and they just kind of flailed around and they got up and started to strike.
Speaker 1:I will say the interview afterward. Drick has said he wants to fight Alex. He thinks that he's the pound for pound. Everyone wants to fight Alex now, but he wants to fight him up at 205. However, he has to finish business in the middleweight division and hamza is his gonna be his biggest test.
Speaker 1:So that's the real test for him to retain that belt, and then we have alex doing his real test, uh, magomed and kalayev ufc 313. So it's kind of kind of interesting to see how things are going to play out definitely between, like that kind of those, those couple of gentlemen there you know, yeah, and how that's gonna go.
Speaker 2:I'm excited to see a true um test for alex in a non-striking kind of fight. Don't get me wrong. I would still be interested in seeing it if he decided to stay on his feet the whole round. I just don't expect that to be the case with Alex.
Speaker 1:With him against Alex, Not just because of that left hook but, I, think that Ancalaya's gonna have a hard time with those calf kicks, those.
Speaker 2:Alex.
Speaker 1:Pineda calf kicks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he might decide to after he takes a half dozen of those to just constantly drive for the mat.
Speaker 1:He's going to have to try to shoot after that because his leg is going to be demolished after that first round, I believe.
Speaker 2:I've heard it explained that Alex's calf kicks are like getting hit with a ball-peen hammer.
Speaker 1:That's insane In your calf.
Speaker 2:Insane Because he uses the ball of the foot, of the big toe, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:And he just hammers you with that. It gets just a perfect angle. It's like hitting with a ball-peen hammer. Yeah, and that's just experience that you develop after so many years of implementing that Well. Yeah, but it's hard to build up a tolerance to that kind of impact.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's hard to kind of spar somebody who's just like Alex, you know, and it's hard to get that left hook out of your face.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you get too focused on defending the calf kicks and you might get nailed with a left.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and those are just the scary weapons that Chama possesses.
Speaker 2:True, or the random head kick like with Jiri.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I think this is going to be a way harder opponent. Oh for sure, I think Ankalayev number one contender.
Speaker 1:we'll see what what he brings to that cage and I think it's going to be a battle, I think it's going to be a real war I'm excited to see it when it comes, oh yeah uh, and also before we move on from the cage harley, I want to talk about a ufc fight night 250 israel to sanya versus ima vav card and uh, that had a couple interesting UFC Fight Night 250.
Speaker 2:Israel.
Speaker 1:Dasania vs Imavov card and that had a couple interesting fights and a couple not so interesting fights. So we'll touch upon that real quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was working for that fight night, so well fight morning for us here in America.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like 10 am Mountain Time, which was kind of crazy. I'll just touch on a couple real quick that I found interesting. Faraziam defeats Mike Davis unanimous decision. That was a very intriguing fight for that young gentleman there. That was pretty good. Inesia Solivera defeats Saeed Nomarga-Madoff so that's like Khabib's third cousin or something. Uh. Sergey pavlovich by unanimous decision boring fight.
Speaker 1:Uh, that was not a banger and I know bangers because it was a heavyweight fight that everybody expected fireworks and a knockout. Okay, neither one of them was looking for that they were just playing, playing it safe, or what. Playing it safe and it looked like Sergi Pavlovich was really just trying to take him down and do groundwork and it was all around very boring and I think even Dana White was pretty disappointed by that Quick little tidbit. After that, jarzino Rosenstruik announced that he's out of the UFC. Don't know what happened there and frankly I don't think we're ever going to know.
Speaker 2:Maybe that contributed to his non-stellar performance, or maybe the non-stellar performance contributed to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who knows? And then we have the last two, which, uh, this one I really thought was going to be fireworks, but the styles just did not complement each other, and that was Michael Venn and Paige defeating Shara, Bullet, Magomedov or the Pirate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's Mr Bullet's first loss. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Mr Bullet's first loss against a great opponent I mean MVP's awesome. But the fight just did not bring the fireworks that I expected. Personally, shara, just the whole night, could not get the range on. Mvp and MVP put on a striking clinic on him and won it unanimously. But hey, shara did not get knocked out and he didn't give up, and we'll actually watch a little highlight clip on that Right.
Speaker 2:That's by ESPN MMA on YouTube Awesome the. Michael Venom. Page defeats Shara Bullitt-Magomedov by unanimous decision.
Speaker 1:Awesome, we'll go ahead and pull that up real quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, from what I'm seeing, it looks like Char was having trouble getting a feel for what Paige was going to actually do.
Speaker 1:Yeah which MVP is kind of a hard fighter to prepare for anyway. Hmm, and after three rounds we go to the scorecards. The judges have it 30-27. 30-27.
Speaker 2:29-28. All for your winner by unanimous decision. Unanimous Michael Vettel. Well, I mean, that's a really short highlight reel and, just like the top comment says, shout out to the ufc intern who managed to make this highlight video one minute long, yeah I guess that's as long as you can get it before getting fired that was pretty short and sweet short, and sweet, yeah didn't really show a whole lot, but from that little bit I saw it looked like Shara was having trouble getting the fix on Venom Page.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and MVP just really had a lot of striking opportunities, a lot more than Shara did. He couldn't get close enough and every time he would get close he'd get sniped.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, their reach was pretty drastically different, wasn't?
Speaker 1:it. I mean MVP's reach is like a good four inch longer. At least he has a really long reach and the way he uses his karate stance, and the fighting style. He uses that to his advantage.
Speaker 2:Well, that short highlight reel didn't showcase it at all, but did he take advantage of Shara's half-blind side? It?
Speaker 1:kind of seemed like he really would hit him with angles and angles that Shara's half-blind side. It kind of seemed like he really would kind of hit him with angles and angles that. Shara really couldn't see, I would say Gotcha. I'm not going to downplay Shara's skills and ability.
Speaker 2:Oh, certainly not.
Speaker 1:And he's a great fighter and this was a great test for him and we'll see where he goes forward. I know that just a sidebar. Mvp did call out Leon Edwards, which I think would be an awesome fight, an interesting fight, maybe a lot more interesting than the fight prior with Ian Gary, which MVP lost. That, but that's pretty much what I kind of saw from that fight, which was MVP taking advantage of those angles and really catching Shara off guard and making so that he never got comfortable.
Speaker 2:And I mean that's what he needed to do to win against Shara Bull, and I mean he's pretty unorthodox and fast and can hit pretty darn hard, so he needed to use that to his advantage and he clearly did.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Just not in a spectacular manner.
Speaker 1:Unanimous decision and, as he said, he's the captain now. Yeah, saying that he's a pirate now Okay. Anyway, moving forward, after that we had that wow upset, israel Adesanya versus Imabov, where Adesanya unfortunately got caught and it was just a very unfortunate scenario for him. Mark Goddard is accused of an early stoppage. That's not here nor there. We'll let you take a look and see what you think, Harley, and I believe we have a highlight video pulled up by ESPN MMA again. Awesome.
Speaker 2:And it's a minute and 11 seconds it shows Okay, cool.
Speaker 1:Whenever you're ready, All right here we go.
Speaker 2:Oh man, yeah he caught him.
Speaker 1:Stuns the world.
Speaker 2:He was getting a little complacent there with his hands down and he took advantage of that, sniped him.
Speaker 1:Which is funnily enough.
Speaker 2:His moniker is the sniper Right, and I mean that stoppage was pretty quick, yeah, but realistically he was only getting flatter and flatter on the mat. He was barely, if at all, really defending himself. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Nazardin Imovov really stunned the world with this one man.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Stunned the.
Speaker 1:MMA world with this one. Beating a legend like this is crazy, nasty one-two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, if I'd been reffing that, I probably would have let it go for another five seconds at least. Oh really, Just to see if Israel could actually get up and dislodge him. I mean, Israel was kind of getting his bearings again.
Speaker 1:Kind of.
Speaker 2:But he was also in a terrible position and Imavov had the perfect position to just kind of sit on him and wail on him. And it would be pretty dangerous to wail on him from that position. They don't want me to ref bro. I'm going to watch somebody die.
Speaker 1:this time you don't want me to ref.
Speaker 2:I mean I could see why somebody might get upset by that reffing decision, but honestly I think it was entirely reasonable in the moment.
Speaker 1:And a quick little tidbit about that At the time of this recording. Mark Goddard has since apologized for this stoppage. Oh, recently saw a post where he basically said yeah, that's a fast one, I'm sorry. Recently saw a post where he basically said yeah, that's a fast one, I'm sorry. And uh, it's just a strange scenario, but I think that it may have been more of the same as you were saying. I think he would have just got flattened out and, yeah, after like a couple hits, you're just not gonna take those, maybe a couple seconds more, but uh, that's not to take away from Imovov's performance.
Speaker 1:Oh no, certainly not which he lived up to his name as a sniper and sniped at his Sonya with a nasty one-two, getting that TKO in round two TKO. It came early, it came fast and it came very unexpectedly.
Speaker 2:I was when I watched that I was pretty shocked. Dude, it was near perfect placement on the chin too, yeah it was nasty dude, it was nasty.
Speaker 1:Nazardin Amovov goes up in the rankings now and it's kind of like who does he fight next? You know. What ranking would this put him at, so that I mean he was number four, so that? Had to put him at least least a couple. Uh, higher up there we got robert whittaker. Uh, still on the heels. There we got chamayev, and then we got nazardin imovov, and then now down in the rankings is israel but chamayev already has his next.
Speaker 2:He's next for that belt so, uh, so we'll see where that leaves nazardin imovov it, it'll be interesting to see who he can fight to get higher, because everyone above him currently has a fight scheduled right.
Speaker 1:It kind of seems like it.
Speaker 2:Slash healing in Whitaker's case.
Speaker 1:I don't know Nazardine Imabov versus Sean Strickland or I don't know Sean Strickland versus Robert Whitaker. I'm not sure what's next for that division or what's next right now. We'll hear an announcement later on. You've got to always trust Uncle Dana and see where he takes us with that. But that pretty much wraps it for the USC talk for today. We'll go ahead and get into them. Wild Reddit reacts, boy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Better bring your earplugs for all the screams, all the screams, I still hear them.
Speaker 2:Still hear them to this day all right, dear listeners, today I have two different posts from the same person. They're both on. Today I fucked up and the poster is Steve Rogers f***s. So today I f***ed up when I convinced my parents to do an intervention Throwaway account. What I'm about to share happened more than a month ago and at the time there was nothing funny about it. Now it cracks me up and makes me cringe whenever I think about it.
Speaker 2:I, 18 male, still live with my parents and Christianity plays a big role in my family. I'm not sure if I believe what they believe, but one thing was certain my brother, 25, believed there was only one God drugs. At some point in his life, getting high was no longer about having fun, it was about feeding an addiction. When he started stealing from my family to support his drug habit, that's when my dad called the cops and had him arrested. My dad's plan was not to send my brother to prison. He was just trying to buy time to come up with another solution. To send my brother to prison, he was just trying to buy time to come up with another solution. He called a family meeting and we brainstormed Besides praying and hoping that a higher power magically makes my brother stop using drugs, rehab was the next best thing. My dad wanted to literally drag my brother to the nearest rehab center and force him to check in. I suggested that we try an intervention just like the ones on TV where the loved ones confronted the drug addict with letters they wrote to show how much they care and hopefully inspire the addict to seek professional help.
Speaker 2:My family agreed to do the intervention based on my passionate pitch. We wrote our letters and waited until my brother got released from jail the following day. We wrote our letters and waited until my brother got released from jail the following day. When my brother entered the house, the living room was occupied by family members, church members and a few of my brother's friends and one of his ex-girlfriends. I never expected my parents to basically invite the whole town, but there they all were. My mom explained to my brother what was happening before volunteering to be the first person to read a letter. My brother was not about that life. He told my mom to stop reading and to allow him to go upstairs or he was going to get upset and say some shit that he can't take back. My mom kept reading, which prompted my brother to roast the shit out of all of us Roast. He made fun of my mom for being addicted to Botox and always running on the treadmill with her arms straight down.
Speaker 1:She don't swing her arms bro?
Speaker 2:I guess not. He asked my dad what God thinks about him paying for porn. He accused me of sucking another guy's dick and literally pointed to the person who owned that dick. He was right. Oh Wow. It went on and on until an argument broke out between my brother and everyone else. If my brother was not the tallest person in the room, my guess is someone would have punched him in the face long ago. Luckily, it didn't go that far. My brother eventually went upstairs and didn't come down until there was no one left but my parents and I. It was awkward between all of us. My dad and I were unable to look at each other for the rest of the week, and what made it even worse was the fact that neither of us denied what my brother had said about us. It was never mentioned again.
Speaker 1:It was all true.
Speaker 2:Since then my brother agreed to go for rehab. He's been clean for 22 days and it seems like he's doing better. My mom stopped using the treadmill and is now running in the park early in the mornings, when none of us are awake, to see if she's actually moving her arms or not she's practicing. It's still unclear if my dad watches porn, let alone pays for it. I'm dating a girl and she knows I've sucked a dick. I can't provide updates for the rest of the people my brother insulted. I think they're all done with the drama in my family because I don't see much of them anymore, lol. Oh, wow, TLDR. I convinced my parents to have an intervention for my drug-addicted brother. The intervention went sideways when my brother got angry and roasted everyone.
Speaker 1:Damn, and he really hit the heart. Huh, he was like he had it ready and waiting. He had it ready and waiting. He was like you better stop. I got this in the bag.
Speaker 2:Admittedly, here's a comment that is very poignant with what we were just mentioning. Addiction can make people vindictive as f***. My dad used to have a laundry list of people he'd bitch about every time I went to see him, and anytime someone else talked to him it was the same list, except their name was replaced with mine. Yeah, wow, it's unfortunate what addiction can do to a person, but yeah, I mean, uh, who knew that I make them that way?
Speaker 1:but uh, I guess it's all. It's all subjective, right, I mean, but they're probably waiting. They had that in the bag waiting for that. Yeah, you know, waiting for that day, like, okay, they're gonna have an intervention someday. I'm about to watch my mom run on the treadmill. Oh, man.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously addiction is not a great thing and everything that pertains to that, but uh, it is pretty hilarious how he warned them and they didn't take heed of that and he let loose.
Speaker 1:Right, but I am glad that he did get sober.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Seemingly.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know from what's going on now, but you know, go ahead and seek help, you know that's a good thing Now to continue.
Speaker 2:that was two years ago. Oh 25 days ago, Steve Rogers Posted again.
Speaker 1:Oh, Steve.
Speaker 2:And it's a Today. I F***ed Up update when I convinced my parents to do an intervention, and here it is. A couple years ago, I shared a post about my family ambushing my brother with an intervention and hoping that he would hear us all out and go to rehab to treat his drug problem. Hoping that he would hear us all out and go to rehab to treat his drug problem. However, my brother used the intervention to roast everyone he made contact with, including me. I got roasted for sucking another guy's dick in front of my family who had no idea I was attracted to guys. Since then my brother has been clean and living with my parents, so assumably at least two years clean, that's great, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really good.
Speaker 2:I have moved out, but I visited my parents a few days ago to introduce them to my girlfriend For the record, my parents pretended that that intervention never happened. Understandable.
Speaker 1:They wouldn't forget.
Speaker 2:Meaning that everything my brother said about us that day never took place. I automatically followed their lead and continued to be straight for the most part, while low-key being bi on the side, because not being open about uncomfortable things was something I sadly inherited from my mom and dad.
Speaker 1:Oh wow.
Speaker 2:I informed my brother that my girlfriend had no idea that I liked girls and guys, but I was planning to tell her when I was ready, so I would appreciate it if he didn't go there.
Speaker 2:When the two of us naturally do our big brother, little brother banter thing, my brother said I had nothing to worry about. Those were his words to me when we were messaging each other. As soon as my girlfriend and I showed up at the house to meet my family, my brother was in the middle of an intense argument with my parents in the living room. This doesn't bode well. I didn't know what they were arguing about, but I repeatedly said hello until my family eventually noticed me standing behind them with my girlfriend. My mom and dad instantly went from being upset at my brother to being warm and welcoming towards me and my girlfriend. When my parents literally turned their backs towards my brother to greet me, he did a slow clap and congratulated my parents for never failing to drop everything every time their favorite son comes home to suck the dick of his big brother's best friend.
Speaker 1:Oh boy he was like I'm gonna bring it back.
Speaker 2:So evidently the guy was his best friend. That would explain why he was at the uh intervention. So yeah, it didn't take long for him to go back on what he said, that he had nothing to worry about that?
Speaker 1:yeah, no, it wasn't even the guy's fault.
Speaker 2:It was his parents fault that he was that he had nothing to worry about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it wasn't even the guy's fault, it was his parents fault that he was mad. He had to worry about it. He very much had to worry about it. Damn, I mean, I bet it doesn't help when they're arguing too. You know, and she's like you know what. Why don't you go suck a dick? You know what I will, karen.
Speaker 2:I will, karen. I did my best to explain to her that I've only had serious relationships with girls, whereas with guys it was never anything more than fun. My girlfriend wanted me to show her my brother's best friend so that she could see what type of guy I liked. I ended up showing her a random photo of him on my brother's Instagram. She asked a lot of uncomfortable questions after looking at the photo, like who was the top, who was the bottom, who was more attractive between him and her, etc. Needless to say, I had to proceed with caution every time I opened my mouth. Thanks, big bro. Wow, tldr. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time when I decided to introduce my girlfriend to my family because my parents were busy arguing with brother, who used his anger to reveal that I sucked his best friend's dick, which is now the second time my brother has outed me in front of an audience. My girlfriend had no idea I was bi until this happened, leaving me with a lot of explaining to do.
Speaker 1:Damn dude. Now all the questions are going to arise for sure. For him Very unfortunate scenario. It sounds like he very much did oh man, that brother dude, I mean he holds a lot of resentment, seems like for sure yeah, especially since his first thing was to slow clap.
Speaker 2:And yeah, talk about him being his favorite, their favorite son yeah, he couldn't even say hello first.
Speaker 1:That's how upset he was.
Speaker 2:Here's a pertinent comment in that regard by Calver Torius your brother didn't and isn't roasting you. That's called him lashing out in the most hurtful ways he can think of.
Speaker 1:Yep, some people do that, for sure. You know. They do that like whirlwind effect, you know when you just spin around the room like a tornado, and whoever's in the way is gonna get some of that.
Speaker 2:That for sure it's the only way they can feel like they're regaining a piece of their own power yeah because they feel completely helpless in the argument oh yeah and then, when they find something like that, they can latch on, feel powerful and hurt people with it.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, we don't know the deep dynamics of their family for sure, especially being that he's saying their favorite son or whatever. But at the end of the day, addiction kind of takes many forms, you know, especially For sure, you know, when we don't know what's going on in that realm. But who knows what he may have done in the past, you know.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, we already know he was stealing from the family to support his drug habit when he was addicted.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and stealing from your parents is like one of the ultimate sins. Man, that's horrible. It damages your relationship with them, for sure, for sure, and probably those are the repercussions that we're seeing.
Speaker 2:And also, to be fair, he was 25 during the original post. He's now 27 at least and he's been living with his parents for two years. Yeah, as a 27-year-old, you're going to have more than a little bit of friction between your parents.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Regardless of a prior past of being addicted to drugs and stealing from them, you add that past to it and arguments are probably going to be a little more intense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're telling him go to your room, I don't want to go to my room. I like that one. I like that one. It really tells a lot about other families. You know, yeah, everybody has their own thing.
Speaker 2:And just a couple more comments that are pertinent to the story and seem good to go over. A chiloa commented sorry op, that means original poster, by the way, but I'm gonna give you a little bit of tough love. Why are you choosing to give your brother this power over you? You sucked a dick who gives a shit that's not roast worthy. In fact, he's being fucking stupid for even thinking it's an insult. Yet you've allowed him to twice now to hold it over you. Dude, it's been two years. Just start having the talk and being honest about your feelings. I'd argue your real fuck-up was not today, but it was two years ago when you didn't own it the first time. Everyone knows at this point They've known it for two years. Ignoring it doesn't change that. It only allows your brother to continue to use your sexuality as ammunition against you.
Speaker 1:And that's exactly what he's doing. It is he's using that against him for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just as a way to lash out and cause pain and deflect from his own. And then two more in response to that is by Violent Pack. He said yeah, for real, just go. I'd rather throat gravy than steal from my own kin. Oh shit, I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just saying earlier than steal from my own kin, oh shit, I mean. Yeah, I mean I was just saying earlier that stealing from your parents is one of the worst things, but I mean, obviously he's not there to confront his brother. He's there just to introduce the girl, oh for sure. Who's becoming, you know For sure.
Speaker 2:But if he had owned it prior to that and was still? Owning it in his own life, in his own day-to-day life, rather than trying to hide it. And I mean, I understand new relationship. You don't necessarily want to blindside him with stuff like that, Of course, but depending on how you're setting up the relationship, there's really no reason for that not to be very early in the relationship. Sure hey look, I like everyone.
Speaker 1:Everyone, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I understand some people are a little more skittish about that but realistically, in a way, just for your own mental well-being, if you will, there's no reason to hide something like that. But maybe he likes to take his time.
Speaker 1:You know, we don't know exactly how he is.
Speaker 2:I do understand that.
Speaker 1:Maybe he likes to take his time, and you know there's nothing wrong on him, you know, but, like I guess what you're trying to say is he should just try to be himself up front right from the beginning. No, hiding. And that would help his scenario for sure, especially with his brother, who's probably using anything against him at this point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, twice, now Twice. And one last comment, also replying to that first one Skinny ass hacker, this OP, you need some self-love here. Your sexuality is not something to be ashamed of. It's not problematic. You making a big deal of it instead of just accepting yourself, loving yourself, is going to cause you a world of hurt in the long run. You're not closeted not really and unless you're leaving out a lot of stuff, it doesn't sound like. You need to be Honestly from the get-go. It's important when you're in a relationship.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And honestly, those questions sound more like your girlfriend is interested and engaged in who and what you are and your experiences Don't be embarrassed. This could be a great bonding experience for you and her.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, at least she's inquisitive.
Speaker 2:As awkward and weird as it may have been. How many dicks you suck?
Speaker 1:No, I don't know. Yeah, wow, I mean very poignant commentators there. Man, that's crazy. Yeah, it just seemed good comments to have for takeaway from the story absolutely, absolutely probably, uh, a lot more informative than than he was hoping, for sure, yeah kind of like a self-reflection and and just as a you know to continue the takeaway.
Speaker 2:for that it's important to know and accept yourself Absolutely. And if you can't accept yourself, how can you expect others to accept you?
Speaker 1:for one. That too yeah.
Speaker 2:And then how can they accept you if they don't know you? All they're accepting is what little bit of you are showing them. And if they can't accept all of you, what's the business of having them in your life?
Speaker 1:yeah, and if you're, if you're really honest with yourself and you don't care about what anybody thinks, nobody can have any ammunition against you. So I got a crazy story, a spooky story actually. Oh yeah, under what's your? No one will ever believe this true story.
Speaker 2:Hey, that sounds promising.
Speaker 1:And this is by Joe Coltrane. It starts I was camping in the Appalachian Mountains with three of my friends. Oh boy, those Appalachians man.
Speaker 2:That's a good start.
Speaker 1:Those mountains are scary in general, so we were all laughing and telling stories around the fire. One night around midnight the friend next to me grabbed my leg and pointed at the woods. We both saw a man's silhouette standing there. We called out to him but he turned around and vanished from sight. We were all young, 18, no cell service and camp was all pitched up at midnight. We decided to sleep through the night with two man teams, watch teams. No signs of him for the rest of the night. We got out of the woods alright.
Speaker 1:Two days later, two hikers were stabbed and killed by a mentally disturbed man who encountered them in a trail near where we were camping. Every now and then I wonder how close we were to having our carts punched that night by what could have been a knife wielding murderer. Oh boy. And one of the comments is I hear so many wild stories about those mountains. It's such an easy place for people with mental issues to disappear there. They can go off the radar from authorities or family members who might be pursuing them. They can find food drops for hikers to keep themselves fed, and no one will ever find them until they're ready to be found that is, uh, a very poignant point.
Speaker 2:It's kind of I hadn't really thought about the whole food drops for hikers and all that to help them, you know, stay fed and sustained but, yeah, that's kind of scary yeah, that's kind of scary and kind of a follow-up story.
Speaker 1:Right under that is a true crime story by false asap you ever hear about the story of Randall Lee Smith.
Speaker 2:Nope, doesn't ring a bell.
Speaker 1:Well, back in 1981, he murdered two social workers hiking along the Appalachian Trail. He was caught, convicted and served 15 years in prison for murders. He was paroled and released in 2008. For murders, he was paroled and released in 2008 and two men were camping out at that year in dismal creek, virginia, had a man come out in the woods and talk to them while they were fishing. This guy was a bit odd, an old man in a brand new, poorly fitted gear. He sort of invited himself to dinner with them. While sitting around the campfire, the old man pulled out a pistol and shot one in the head oh geez and fired after the other guy. The pistol was a old 22 and, uh, the shot that he gave to the guy's head was deflected. He was shot in the head but was still alive, and charged the guy and tried to wrestle the gun away.
Speaker 1:Oh man yeah, 22s aren't very powerful if you don't have a straight on shot his buddy who, who ran, was shot in the back and wasn't aware of it as he jumped in the jeep and started it up and drove off. When he heard his friend start the jeep, the guy who, I will remind you, was shot in the head right, ran for the jeep, not wanting to be left behind. Both shot and losing blood, they tore ass down the mountain.
Speaker 1:The old man, however, took the truck they left behind and started chasing them oh no, they made it down the mountain and got to a farmhouse and banged on the door begging for help. The police were called and the two would-be victims were airlifted to the hospital and survived. Wow, the cops went up to the mountain and found the old man in that pickup as it had overturned during the chase. He was hurt from the crash. They arrested him and he got taken into a secure hospital where he was identified as Randall Lee Smith.
Speaker 2:Oh boy.
Speaker 1:The attack happened less than a mile from his previous murder site and in his pockets were personal effects, glasses, keys and other things of the owners who have never been identified, but they were not of a prescription or style that belonged to him. Randall E Smith died of his injuries from that crash four days later. The two men who would have been victims survived.
Speaker 2:Well, at least it wasn't a horrible ending in that. No, but they do have a horrible ending in that.
Speaker 1:No, but they do have a crazy story to tell.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I bet they're never going to go to the.
Speaker 2:Appalachian Mountains again, yeah, they might not. My next one is from Coworker Stories from a special underscore touch underscore 9090.
Speaker 1:9090.
Speaker 2:Coworker claims that I groom children following office. Duck scavenger hunt. The groomer Boy do I have a doozy? Last week I had a delivery of 100 little ducks. You know the kind people leave around their friends' houses when they're on holiday. I'm guessing probably about the size of like erasers.
Speaker 1:You know, little guys.
Speaker 2:Anyway, my work is going through a tumultuous time and I thought it might boost morale or at least give a reprieve from the negativity for five minutes. So I dotted these ducks around for people to find, and it went down a treat. I'm assuming this person was from the UK, because that was some odd language for me.
Speaker 1:I went down a treat.
Speaker 2:With people even re-hiding the ducks for other coworkers the next day.
Speaker 1:Harmless.
Speaker 2:People were laughing and talking about it for a couple of days. Even the directors found a couple and they were a bit bemused but left us to it. One of the directors made a comment that without his glasses he had assumed they were sweets and had been left out. He was glad he took a closer look before trying some. My problem colleague overheard this and then made the comment that I was grooming both children and men with the ducks.
Speaker 1:What the hell.
Speaker 2:Office fun equals me being a child groomer Reported to HR, but I think I'm ready to move on to a different company now.
Speaker 1:What the hell.
Speaker 2:And some people found it funny. Pretty much everyone was finding it funny, and yet they decided that they wanted to put a downer on it. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:That's interesting.
Speaker 2:I would understand if he was giving the ducks to kids, but he's giving it to coworkers At a job and, from the sounds of it, it he doesn't work with kids no, but they do sound immature and mean probably so here's a pertinent comment and then reply from the original poster.
Speaker 2:Uh, random rhyme said I'm desperately trying to figure out what dots they thought they were connecting to make the conclusion. There's got to be more than they were connecting to make the conclusion. Me too, there's got to be more than they were. Convinced is related to this Ducks equal grooming. The confusion is strong.
Speaker 1:And grooming men. What is that?
Speaker 2:Right. And so the original poster said, after everyone went silent following her comment, she was trying to explain that it was like I was luring children with sweets but with ducks, even though our office is 18 plus. Not entirely sure how she jumped to that, but, as said, she's the problem, colleague, she's not happy unless she's insulted someone damn dude.
Speaker 1:And there are those god co-workers like that are so awful, yep, they drag everyone down. Yeah, they drag everybody down, they drag morale down and a lot of the time that's a lot of the reason why there's like turnover and stuff like that. Oh yeah, oh man.
Speaker 2:That sucks, and they're the ones who make people not able to have fun because everyone's too worried about them spying over their shoulder, ready to write up a report or some nonsense.
Speaker 1:And, just like the commenter, I'm kind of struggling to connect the dots even with the person's description of why they thought that, yeah, like that doesn't help, sir, or ma'am, that does not help.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the original poster also said later that afternoon, after I had brought it up to my manager, she tried saying it was a kind of joke that she made with her husband on the sofa had to say that I'm not her husband, I'm not even her friend, I'm her work colleague in a professional setting. How often do they joke about that sort of stuff for it to feel so normal for her?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like holy shit, she's telling her husband stop being a groomer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why and how often are you joking about grooming children with your husband on the sofa, like the heck.
Speaker 1:That's a strange joke, insider joke, but anyway, yeah. So I have. Uh, today I f***ed up, okay, today I f***ed up by swimming in a Florida spring. Oh no, when I close my eyes. I can in a Florida spring, oh no, when I close my eyes, I can still hear the screams.
Speaker 2:Oh god, is that part of the title?
Speaker 1:That is part of the title.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, oh, that's going to be a story You'll see why it's a very interesting story.
Speaker 1:By Barsoom, israel. It begins. This was a few years ago. Took the family to Guinea Springs, a beautiful Florida water spot, for a day of swimming and a little picnic. So I was swimming in the crystal clear water, watching my son floundering around in his water wings and just having a good old time. My son suddenly stopped, pointed at the water and said Look Daddy, a lizard. I looked over and saw that no, it was not a lizard that was swimming over to us, it was a snake. After a quick examination I realized that this not only was just any snake, but a water moccasin and a large one at that, heading right for us.
Speaker 1:So, yelling for my son to back away, I waded out to grab him and drag him back to shore. The snake was making a beeline for us, which is weird because most of the time they avoid human contact.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I started to splash the water at it, trying to slow it down enough so I could reach the shore before I got too close. So as I was backing up, slapping the water at a poisonous snake with one hand and dragging a laughing child who had no idea what was going on with the other, I reached close enough to the shoreline to grab a branch that had fallen from a tree. It was a long and pretty sturdy branch. It was perfect for what I needed to be done. So as the snake got in close, I went all caveman on it and I bashed it a dozen times with the branch, it worked.
Speaker 1:A snake started to float away. The snake started to float away dead as a doornail, and then I realized that all the people swimming around the water would not take too kindly to bumping into a four-foot dead moccasin.
Speaker 2:So using the branch, yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 1:Not, he was pretty considerate, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would imagine not he was pretty considerate, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So, using the branch, I launched the snake for a stretch of the woods off to my right and I was all full of adrenaline. So, instead of the woods, the snake flew into the air, drifting off to the right where, plop, it landed square on a picnic table. Oh no, square on a picnic table. Oh no, square on a picnic table. Sorry, just a visual Full of dread. He tossed, he's been tossing around the destiny.
Speaker 2:I'm just having the visual of sitting at a picnic table and all of a sudden the snake flies out of frickin' nowhere Swinging them. It just plops on a picnic table and all of a sudden the snake flies out of freaking nowhere.
Speaker 1:Swinging them up, it just plops on the picnic table. To make matters worse, it landed on a pile of shoes that a Girl Scout troop had left when they went into the water.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:This is crazy. It just gets worse. Oh crap was all I could think as I began to quickly swim across the spring to remove the snake from the table. But as I was swimming, I heard them, the giggles and laughter of 12-year-old girls returning to get their shoes. I stopped cold. I was too late. I began to swim away, trying to hide myself as I saw the first curly-haired head.
Speaker 2:You couldn't even own it. You had to hide, you had to hide.
Speaker 1:You had to hide, trying to hide myself, as I saw the first curly-haired head approach the table. There was laughing, there was chatting and talking and then a pause and that's it. That is when the screaming started. If you had never heard a dozen 12-year-old girls scream in horror as they saw a large bloody snake draped across their shoes, I cannot begin to explain the sound. Even as I dove underwater I heard the screaming. Sometimes at night I still hear the screams. Tldr Killed a snake, launched it with the stick across the table filled with 12 year old girl shoes. The screams they still echo in those woods to this very day.
Speaker 2:I mean hilarious. But also, why couldn't he have just owned up to it Like why, and he says why hide?
Speaker 1:So he's clearly an adult, right? Yeah, oh man. And then Prince Elk Rapsparkled Moccasin snake, pile of shoes. There's got to be a joke there, right? And someone commented there's a snake in those boots.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd say there is.
Speaker 1:This is hilarious. The best bit is picturing you dragging your child away while frantically smacking the shit out of the snake, balancing the world between both hands.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Amazing. Oh man, I love that story. Man, that was.
Speaker 2:I love that story. Good, not a lot to take away from it, but that was amusing.
Speaker 1:He survived and he went into full daddy mode, you know, and.
Speaker 2:He pulled out the caveman instincts there. The caveman instincts.
Speaker 1:Isn't that like one of the world's most poisonous snakes?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think it's very high up into the as far as like most poisonous, but it is. It's up there. It's a rather aggressive, or it can be aggressive, from what?
Speaker 1:I understand. I mean well beeline towards him. Worthy of that title, for sure. Worthy of that title, for sure. Worthy of that title.
Speaker 2:All right, with that, we're going to wrap up this episode of Peak Points. Thank you for joining us for this wonderful episode, or at least I hope you think so and as we continue on, I hope you continue to join us and like, subscribe and all the various things, depending on which platform you're following us on. Alan, do you have anything to add?
Speaker 1:I really hope Bobby Flay listens to this. Wouldn't that be cool? He's like cooking in the kitchen and he's like listening to me and then he's like did that guy just mention me?
Speaker 2:Yes, Bobby.
Speaker 1:I'm talking directly to you.
Speaker 2:You are his favorite chef.
Speaker 1:I hope you're listening, anyway, bye.
