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UFC 313 Victories, Defeats, and are we traumatized yet?
The world of UFC 313 unfolds in spectacular fashion as we dive deep into the night's most stunning performances, controversial decisions, and changing fortunes. Mauricio Ruffy's wheel kick knockout of Bobby King Green stands as an early Knockout of the Year contender, while Rafael Fiziev's gutsy performance against Justin Gaethje on just two weeks' notice earned well-deserved respect from fight fans worldwide.
At the heart of our conversation lies the light heavyweight championship bout between Alex Pereira and Magomed Ankalaev. Ankalaev's tactical approach neutralized Pereira's devastating offensive weapons, leading to a new champion being crowned in somewhat underwhelming fashion. We explore what this means for both fighters, particularly as Dana White has already hinted at an immediate rematch. At 37 years old, does Pereira have enough time to adjust his game and reclaim the title?
Beyond the octagon, drama erupted when Pereira's ex-fiancée posted a video mocking his loss – a move that even former opponent Jamahal Hill condemned as "lame." This real-life saga adds another layer to the complex world of professional fighters and the personal challenges they face outside the cage.
The episode takes a fascinating turn as we explore traumatic stories from Reddit, including a masterclass in petty revenge involving a neighbor who wouldn't stop revving his Mustang engine. Through strategic placement of a fire pit and three weeks of burning wet wood, justice was served in the most smoke-filled way imaginable.
Whether you're an MMA enthusiast or simply enjoy tales of interpersonal drama and creative revenge, this episode delivers entertainment that will have you eagerly awaiting our next conversation. Don't forget to like and subscribe for more insights, analysis, and unexpected stories from the worlds of combat sports and beyond.
Welcome back, dear listeners, to episode 5 of Peak Points of peak points. Today we're going to discuss UFC 313 and follow that up with some traumatic stories off of Reddit.
Alan :You know what else was traumatic, Harley?
Harley:A lot of things were traumatic, but that night specifically trying to watch 313 main card on ESPN.
Alan :That was dog Major outage and they said they handled it. I think they lied.
Harley:Well, as far as you and I were concerned trying to watch it, they absolutely lied.
Alan :But sorry, uncle Dana, I had to find a way to watch it anyway. Man, you know I'm sorry, I had to do it to you. But I'm going to watch that card, no matter what, and as always, harley, before we get into the octagon. Uh, if you want to go ahead and skip to the reddit section, go up the road 30 minutes up ahead and you'll be right there well, thank you for telling me that I would not ever have guessed just for you specifically.
Alan :All right, let's get into the octagon and we'll go ahead and talk about some of the fights on the prelim uh section, mainly because that was pretty much the one we were able to see on the tv yeah, before they switched to the main card and completely screwed everyone exactly a lot of complaints coming from people for that and in a pretty crazy time going on with the whole Dana White and the UFC trying to come up with a contract and for someone else to be their platform.
Alan :So, bad timing for ESPN on that one, but we were able to see the prelims. On the early prelims Ozzy Diaz won that by unanimous decision. I know we got some Ozzy Diaz fans.
Harley:It looked like Santos took a serious beating. It definitely looked like from the end of it anyway it definitely looked like Diaz won.
Alan :Yeah, good performance by Diaz, and then Francis Marshall, Marion Santos I think kind of glossed over that one, but a split decision on that one.
Harley:It wasn't a terribly exciting one. Neither one seemed to be particularly dominant in the ring over the other.
Alan :And it was just one of those fights. Marion Santos won that by split decision, carlos Leal versus Morono, and that was by knockout and that was a pretty surprising knockout on that one and Leal took that one. And then we got that Bruno Ferreira versus Armin Petrosian and we definitely were looking at that one I really wanted to see Petrosian get double spinning backfisted again, but he didn't. Bruno Ferreira took it in round two with a submission, a very quick submission, that he during transitions that was amazing.
Harley:It was very unexpected, at least for me. I did not expect him to lock in and pull off an actual submission from that position he transitioned into or out of, I should say.
Alan :And it was lightning fast. Yeah, I mean, he nailed it.
Harley:That was a really good win on his part, for sure.
Alan :Quick tidbit about Armin Petrosian. He's actually out of the UFC as of the time of this, recording 3 and 4 in the UFC and let's see where he ends up. I think maybe karate combat would probably be better for him.
Harley:I don't know he didn't seem very hungry, that's for sure.
Alan :No, and then he seemed kind of skittish, if you will coming off that skid, coming off a couple losses and coming off that highlight reel.
Harley:Shara the pirate.
Alan :The bad end of a highlight reel the bad end of a highlight reel spinning double back fist right there. And then we got Joshua Vann versus Suruya and that was actually a pretty good fight. Suruya was getting worked and Vann really put up a really great performance in that one.
Harley:He did. He definitely won. I wouldn't say he had a very commanding lead throughout the whole fight or anything, but I'd say he definitely won. There was no real question about that. It didn't feel like it was stolen from Saruya. Yeah, but I definitely would like to see stolen from.
Alan :Saruya yeah.
Harley:But I definitely would like to see Van step it up a little. But all in all, especially since it's still pretty early in his career, and all that, it was a very solid performance. Yes.
Alan :And speaking of early in their career, another pretty interesting tidbit that's going to make both of us feel a little old is that this is the first time in UFC where both fighters were born after the year 2000.
Harley:Oh, I did not know that.
Alan :It's a change of generation, it seems like for sure, and we're seeing some new faces.
Harley:As we should.
Alan :As we should and the sport is thriving. And then we get to that main card that unfortunately we weren't able to watch on the big screen, but I was able to watch this regardless and I did watch that Bobby King Green versus Mauricio Ruffy.
Harley:That one I've only seen highlight reels of so far.
Alan :And what an amazing wheel kick by Mauricio Ruffy that one I've only seen highlight reels of so far. And what an amazing wheel kick by Marisa Ruffy, landed flush on the temple of King Green, and and only two minutes into the first round, and only two minutes into the first round and it was one of those kind of sloppy knockouts where he his head hit the canvas and he slid forward.
Harley:Yeah, he went ragdoll.
Alan :Ragdoll, unfortunate, and you know, hats off to Mauricio Ruffy and his team, the Fighting Nerds man these guys are on another level. They've got the touch right now, the touch of death I would say, performance of the Night goes to Maurisa ruffy for that and that's a knockout of the year contender, I would say.
Harley:uh, starting pretty early in the running, definitely in the running.
Alan :Early as it is, it's definitely in the running early as it is and I feel very bad for king green being a veteran, but he's been through this before and we'll see where he kind of moves forward with his career, if that's the case. How old is Green now he's 38 years old already, Wow, and he's kind of going on that skid just coming off that loss patted the baddie, choked him out.
Harley:Yeah.
Alan :And getting put to sleep in a different fight, in a different way back to back. It's kind of unfortunate.
Harley:Not a great look, unfortunately.
Alan :The bad end of a highlight reel, how you were saying, and very unfortunate for him. But great performance by Mauricio Rufi.
Harley:Absolutely.
Alan :Yeah man and you know we're getting some hints of Brian Conor McGregor there. You didn't get to see that when Brian Conor McGregor was in that game, but man Marisa Rufi is really showing some flash with his performance. And then we have after that was the Amanda Lemos versus Yasmin Lucendo. I watched this one too. It was kind of an underwhelming fight. Amanda Lemos took that, and actually it was by unanimous decision. She kind of took a lot of control over Yasmine, who was the favorite in this one. Yet Lucendo was supposed to be the next up, but obviously she lost this one. So we'll see where she ends up. Underwhelming performance as far as the strawweight belt goes. But then we have that lightweight belt. Jaylen turner versus ignacio bahamundes didn't really go the way that I expected, but ignacio put on a show man.
Alan :Great performance by him and a great submission.
Harley:Absolutely. And another round, one finish just over two minutes as well.
Alan :Another round one and another performance of the night by Bahamundas. Unfortunately, after the fight, Jalen Turner has now been confirmed that he's retired, and I would say that loosely because he's still very young, only 29 years old. A lot of time still to come back and you know, regroup and I don't know, maybe switch at the camp or something?
Harley:Do we know why he's stepping away right now?
Alan :So from what I understand from an interview, was that his previous loss. After his previous loss, he was already thinking that, getting doubts in his mind whether he should continue with his career. So I would say, if you're going into a fight with some doubts and you're not hungry for it, you're definitely not going to have the same fire. And in this one you could just tell that Bahamundas had that freaking fire bro. He looked like he needed this for rent money bro, admittedly he did take some decent damage yeah, absolutely managed that so it's not like jaylen was just giving up no
Alan :fortunately yeah, no it was. He was definitely working for it and that's precisely why I think this fueled his decision to move forward with retiring was because he I think he said he didn't really feel himself, but that he didn't, you know, he didn't give up. He definitely gave effort and uh, it's just very unfortunate but class act bahamundas. In the interview afterward he said, no, don't retire, come to my house, we could train together, uh, and we can work on improving together which is a very sweet offer from from uh, a contender that absolutely.
Harley:You know, obviously won. That's some good high respect yes, between the two of them that way well, actually I don't know about Jalen, if Jalen reciprocates the respect, but certainly from Bahamondas.
Alan :And we'll see where Jalen ends up in his career. We'll see if, maybe, he takes some time off and comes back later refreshed and regrouped.
Alan :Maybe, but we'll see. We'll see. I mean, I would say, if it comes to mental health and his mental health and he's feeling like it's becoming a detriment to his mental health, maybe it is time to step back and reevaluate things and seek some help, if he needs some help. You know, if anybody needs help, it's a good thing to seek help and I really hope that Jalen Turner, I hope that his career flourishes at the end, because I like Jalen Turner, I'm a fan.
Harley:Oh yeah.
Alan :A lot.
Harley:And, to be fair, there's multiple ways. He can stay within the UFC, if you will, but not as a fighter. He could always be in someone's corner being a coach or what have you.
Alan :Yes.
Harley:So it's not like he has to stay away, even if he does retire as a fighter.
Alan :Right, and then we got that fight of the night. I got that fight of the night bonus. It did Justin Gaethje versus Rafael Fazeev. I thought that was a battle and I have nothing but amazing words to say about Fazeev. Oh for sure, Coming off of under two-week notice against a dog like Justin Gaethje and not getting knocked the fuck out Right.
Harley:It went all three rounds full time.
Alan :Full time and the pace was amazing. I know that you're kind of underwhelmed by Justin Gaethje, you know, given the factors and how.
Harley:Right yeah, just given where Fizzi was in the rankings. I mean, admittedly it's not exactly his fault, he was that low in the rankings. If you're injured, you're injured.
Alan :Circumstances.
Harley:But I was expecting a bit more flare or damage, if you will, from Gaethje, and I mean, don't get me wrong. Fight was good, I enjoyed it, it was engaging and both of them neither one of them gave up at any point in time and there was no like they didn't just like get all lazy about it and just kind of half-ass wail at each other. They were genuinely trying to get the finish on each of them.
Alan :An amazing technique too.
Harley:Yeah, I was just going into it. I expected a little better from Gaethje, is all. Right but given that, major props to Fazeev because, he held Gaethje back all three rounds. Can't say enough On a two-week notice, that's insane, that's insane.
Alan :Can't say enough about Fazeev. Justin Gaethje did score a beautiful knockdown in that fight with a nasty uppercut where he grabbed with his left hand grabbed the back of his head and with a nasty uppercut connected beautifully, and Fazeev, after the fight, even said that uppercut alone changed the tide of the fight. And that he felt after that knockdown? He felt like he was in Disneyland. Fazeeb is a dog man.
Harley:So that move and then also the head kick out of a clinch was amazing from Gage that was truly a highlight. Amazing from Gage that was still.
Alan :That was truly a highlight moment from Gage Just the hip mobility and the amount of space that he had to get that off and kind of looked like a similar kick that he did on Dustin Poirier, where he knocked out Dustin Poirier, yeah, which let's not talk about that. I don't want to remember that. However, that was a great fight. I think that was a great fight and Justin. Gaethje's asking for a chance at the belt again. We'll see how things are going, how the cards play.
Harley:It'll be interesting to see Gaethje's technique against Makachev's technique, if it happens, if it happens, we have a new player in the 155ers and that division is absolutely stacked 155 is absolutely stacked. There's some really good fighters in that weight division, the hardest division to get freaking belt bro like, if you get past all these dogs in that division.
Alan :You get past Justin Gaethje, you get past Dan Hooker, you get past Charles Olivera, you get past Armin Petrosian and you still have to face Islam Makachev at the end it's like the final boss, you know but Justin Gaethje is a dog to face Islam Makachev, at the end it's like the final boss.
Alan :But Justin Gaethje is a dog and he deserves his flowers and he deserves any opportunity. If they do not move forward with Justin Gaethje versus Islam for the belt, I think they should hold that Dan Hooker fight. And I think they should hold that Dan Hooker fight.
Harley:And I think they should reschedule it yeah.
Alan :Because, like I said, man, we were going to witness a body bag in the fight.
Harley:That would have been a fantastic fight, that would see for sure.
Alan :So I think they should still move forward with that one. I know the concern and I know that Justin Gaethje is saying that he doesn't have many left in him and he wants to make the best.
Harley:Oh, I hadn't heard that.
Alan :Yes, I mean, I'm thinking like two more fights for him.
Harley:Jeez that few. Yeah, bro, if it's not for the belt, I mean don't get me wrong, he takes a whooping every time, every time.
Alan :And, like Uncle Chael's son says, you don't get better. Each time you come out into the octagon, you lose a piece of yourself and you never get that piece back. In every of these, and especially in a Justin Gaethje fight, you know, especially a Justin Gaethje fight.
Harley:I'm 100% certain that you can only take so much damage.
Alan :You can only take so much damage and it definitely adds up over time. And that's all I'm going to say about Justin Gaethje. Amazing performance by both these guys.
Harley:I do have to say that I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on Fazeev.
Alan :Yeah, let's see where he goes.
Harley:I think he could very well likely develop into a favorite of mine.
Alan :He's a beast man.
Harley:If he had had more than two weeks of camp to prepare. Yeah, I think this fight could have been even more spectacular exactly, and we'll see where fazeev moves on with his career.
Alan :I know that, um, you told me this. I know that he's thinking about going down a weight class going down there was a little bit of a blip from an interview.
Harley:He was talking about that. I kind of hope he doesn't Because well, on a personal note, I think the whole weight cutting is nonsense. But given his skill level I think he could be a major contender within this weight class. I don't think he needs to cut weight in order to have a serious chance at a belt. It'd be easier for him. Don't get me wrong.
Alan :Each individual fight I mean not the cutting, but and I know that's that's his kind of selling point for going down in weight. It was that the the weight cut was very good for him right for this fight right, and he, maybe he feels like he could drop down and still feel good, still feel uh still feel powerful and all that you know right and uh, we'll see what raf Rafael Fazeev ends up in his career, but hats off to him.
Alan :What a dog, and I think we're all going to be looking out for him further and see where he goes. And then we have that championship fight Alex Poiton-Pereira versus yeah, exactly Versus Magomed and Goliath, or, as the kids are calling him, big Ankh.
Harley:I haven't heard that one.
Alan :They're calling him Big Ankh. Why bro?
Harley:I mean just a quick overview on that fight. No shade at all to Ankh-Olaive. He went in there, he did his business, wasn't very spectacular, wasn't very exciting, but he went in there and he was getting the fight done. I mean it was very workmanlike, shall we say, not showmanship, but very workmanlike. But on the flip side, I was unimpressed given prior performance by Alex.
Alan :Yeah, but I will say I see both sides of the argument. I see the side that, hey, this was not a good performance by Ankalayev this is not one of his best performance by Alex and a lot of people are saying that 0 for 12 in takedowns by Ankalayev, 0 for 12 shouldn't warrant the belt. However, he outstruck alex pareda absolutely. His striking was in excess of anything perera was throwing out there, the only thing that alex had was that calf kick, and he stopped throwing it after round three, so it's like yeah what, what else can you do?
Alan :and um I also. You know I'm an Alex fan and I try not to be biased in this sport. Which is incredibly difficult to do. However, I gave the fight to Ankalayev. I gave it three rounds to two Just because the game plan was good for Ankalayev he kept Alex on the back foot and if you notice that in every other fight alex is not really on the back foot, he's, he's. He is the one that controls the distance and typically controls the pace typically and ankle.
Alan :I have did a great job of shutting that down and uh, adjusting after eating a couple of those calf cakes. And he kind of shut down the other major weapon, that left hook, you know Alex's left hook.
Harley:Yeah, there wasn't a lot of good usage of that, for sure. Which is part of what made me so unimpressed with Alex's performance. I'm not saying he was completely disappointing but given the last three fights we've seen him. Hell the last four fights that. I can specifically remember he was much more impressive.
Alan :Oh yeah.
Harley:I mean not just I understand like, even given the whole being always constantly pushed onto his back foot, he never found his flow.
Alan :That entire match Nope never found the flow state.
Harley:And it was really odd to see the difference in fighting style from his last fight with Jiri versus now.
Alan :He was hardly moving, he wasn't ducking and weaving or even from the last fight versus Roundtree, yeah, where Roundtree gave an amazing performance, and hats off to Roundtree for that performance.
Harley:Oh yeah, that was seriously impressive for.
Alan :Roundtree Seriously impressive and yeah, it just was not alex's day, uh, when it came to this, and but there's two sides to it and ankle, I have had a great performance, I mean yeah, I'm not.
Harley:I'm not poo-pooing on any one of them, I'm saying it was. It was a good fight. It was just given the hype leading up to it, given prior performances from both of them. It wasn't stellar, it wasn't spectacular, but when you're fighting for the belt, it's not smart to showboat. So I understand it and it was a good fight. I'm not saying it wasn't, I just was hoping for a little better.
Alan :Absolutely I think a lot of us were hoping, and even the odds makers were hoping, when closer to the fight day they uh made alex the favorite.
Harley:Obviously they were seeing man that was shifting so often.
Alan :Yeah, that was shifting a lot and you know now we have a new light heavyweight champion. I will say in the conference after the fight, dana White was asked where do you go with Alex now?
Harley:that's something I want to know for sure, that's something.
Alan :I want to know for sure, but I'm going to give my hot take. That's something I want to know for sure. That's something I want to know for sure, but I'm going to give my hot take ok a lot of talk about Alex moving up to heavyweight and this and that two names specifically out of the heavyweight division that we all are hearing. Everybody in the UFC world is hearing Alex Breda versus Tom Aspinall, alex Breda versus Jon Jones.
Harley:And Jon Jones versus.
Alan :Those are the names that are. But after this performance man, after seeing him versus Ankaliev and how he really got shut down by the wrestling, but he didn't get taken down he didn't get taken down. He did a pretty good job, great takedown defense, but he didn't do anything to move from that position and take over.
Harley:Yeah.
Alan :And if that were Tom Aspinall, I think he'd be a body bag.
Harley:Oh yeah.
Alan :If it was Jon Jones, jon Jones would have cranked that freaking neck bro. He would have cranked his neck and choked him out right then and there, just like he did to Yota Mishida years ago.
Harley:Yeah, I do not see in his current iteration. I should say not saying he can't develop into being a serious contender in that respect. But from the current showcasing of his abilities and talents I would say that's probably not the wisest of decisions for him.
Alan :No, and then let me add to that, harley, let me add to that about his current state. He's such an active fighter that if, if he's gonna get a rematch, he's not gonna wait a long time. Yeah, we know this, alex is gonna is gonna be like I'm ready to fight already. You know, yeah, and that's the problem is that he needs to give himself a full camp camp just to see about what he can do to avoid and goliath's strategy of boringly, uh, hugging him up against the fence, you know. And he needs to give himself time, and I don't think there's enough time for him to go up to heavyweight, put on the weight and have that power, because obviously he couldn't overpower Ankalayev, who's a smaller guy than him. Yeah, alex is massive.
Harley:Alex is also 36, right.
Alan :He's 37. 37, okay.
Harley:So yeah, I think it's a little late in the career to be pushing for that, don't get me wrong. If he could do it. That'd'd be awesome it would be a huge feather in his cap all that would be amazing but I think he needs he definitely needs to re-establish himself at the top of light heavyweight before he even contemplates heavyweight right.
Alan :so the they asked dana white, where do? Where we're going with a Breda? Maybe an immediate rematch?
Harley:Really.
Alan :Maybe an immediate rematch is what Dana White says, which I'm okay with. I'm fine with that, but how immediate is my concern? And does it give Alex enough time to develop the tools to take down this challenge, Because in the next fight Ancalaya is going to be a massive favorite?
Harley:Oh yeah, he's going to be a massive favorite. I mean admittedly, given what you just said of a potential rematch, or what Dana said, I should say realistically, that's honestly pretty much the only option for Alex, because he's beat the stuff and out of everyone else.
Alan :Really, and where do you go? I mean, you go Jerry versus Ancalaya.
Harley:Jerry number three, and then, and then what if?
Alan :what if the scenario were Jerry beats Ancalaya and then we got Alex versus Jerry again a third time, which I sincerely, sincerely do not want to see. That again, there's no reason for it? Yeah, I wouldn't, that wouldn't work yeah, and then we got um another fight coming up. I'm not, I don't have the date pulled up, but it is uh khalil roundtree versus jamal hill that I'm excited to see that's gonna be a banger and let's see how the division shapes up.
Alan :But let's face it, once you go up up to like light heavyweight, you go to heavyweight. It's kind of um, especially heavyweight, especially heavyweight heavyweight has a massive issue with with the top five and who's really gonna be on that mountaintop like come on, dude, like that's yeah, especially with john jones being gone for so darn long and coming back and tom aspinall interim champ, and then you got several guys to fight each other.
Harley:Well, they aren't refusing, it's just not getting set up. But right.
Alan :so I mean, that brings us back to the point is uh, I think this is the only recourse for Alex is to get that rematch. Try to get that belt back, absolutely, because I don't see a successful route to heavyweight.
Harley:I think there's at least two months though.
Alan :I think longer than that.
Harley:Oh yeah, I was just saying minimum two months.
Alan :I know Alex likes quick turnaround but, he needs to develop that wrestling.
Harley:A good four months would probably be a pretty reasonable amount of time for him to develop more, and in conjunction with that, I've come across rumors of infection and potentially a broken hand. Oh, wow infection and potentially a broken hand. Oh, wow, um. I saw a short clip from a video alex put out congratulating in goliath and talking about the fight and he was saying no excuses and I still haven't seen anything from alex specifically talking about an infection or a broken hand nothing of the sort Speculation.
Harley:But the fact that he did say no excuses to me leads some credence to that potential rumor of a broken hand, and either way, I mean everything that we said still stands. It is not an excuse for the loss, but I think we may have mentioned this in a previous episode. The number of infections in the UFC is weird. It's weird Including Bilal having a bone infection.
Alan :Bone infection.
Harley:yeah, what the hell is going on with these people.
Alan :Do they?
Harley:not know wound care or what.
Alan :And then Strickland with that staph infection.
Harley:Yeah, yeah.
Alan :Yeah, I mean, that's difficult. I don't want to hear if there's any excuses. However, if he is injured, maybe this gives him more time for him to take and recover and come up with a game plan.
Harley:He had he's. His past shows that he is not shy about fighting when he's sick and or injured yeah so right it's very possible that that was true but I think even with his prior success doing that, he needs to be if, if that was a contributing factor, he needs to be a little more aware of his own body's limitations in these instances I mean hardly at 37 years old.
Alan :I think you know the Hourglass is running out of time for him.
Harley:Oh, for sure, but having a rematch, a reschedule? On something like this would be faster than a loss, a recovery and a rematch. Realistically. Right, realistically it genuinely would be a faster turnaround.
Alan :Yes, I think more than likely it is going to be an immediate rematch. Quote-unquote. Yes, and we'll see how the background stuff works out, and I know a lot of people were unhappy with this performance and with this championship fight, but at the end of the day it's hats off to Magomed and Goliath.
Harley:Absolutely.
Alan :And the game plan that he put forth to stop Goliath.
Harley:Yeah, I mean he put in the work.
Alan :He put in the work.
Harley:Like I was saying earlier, absolutely no shade on him. He did the work and he did it well. He didn't do it flashily, which is understandable. You don't pull out flashy moves against someone who has shown to be such a heavy hitter. I mean you don't take chances.
Alan :Right and he didn't know. It's like Aspinall being flat Right and he didn't know it's like Aspinall being flat.
Harley:If Jon Jones and Aspinall actually fight, it's like you're not going to expect Aspinall to be goofing off.
Alan :No.
Harley:He's going to be taking it seriously.
Alan :Yeah, that's going to be.
Harley:So I mean same thing, for them. I mean, when a belt's on the line, you don't goof off.
Alan :No, or you shouldn't. You shouldn't goof off. No, or you shouldn't, you shouldn't, and neither one of them did, and that's just what I want to reiterate that I do think that Ankalayev won this one, and I know that Tom Aspinall did comment. I just remembered that he did comment on this fight. Oh yeah and uh where ankle I have hit alex with a nasty one, two rocking alex and and him falling back to the fence. Tom aspinall said see if he would have been asleep if that was against me oh, he said that, which is hilarious to me.
Alan :Uh, just just how, how, um how in touch with everything. Tom Aspinall is Even in the social media presence, even on his YouTube.
Harley:And when you're pushing for fame and to be top dog, that is kind of part and parcel to the whole gig he's doing it.
Alan :He's doing it Underwhelming fight, but we have a new champion. And one more thing before we go ahead and move on to our Reddit section is we got some drama outside of the octagon. Alex Pereira's ex-fiancee recently came out on social media and before I even get into that, I just want to say kicking a man while he's down is absolutely absurd and classless. Yeah, and in this case, it was absolutely, absolutely disgusting the fact that she put a video out slamming, mocking alex and the loss and saying, oh no, chama and karma, chama, karma, which is awful and it's it's kind of reeling in the usc and mma community right now and a lot of people are absolutely, you know, upset about the comments that she did and it's just sad it's sad.
Alan :It's sad really a couple people with their reactions. You got Michael Bisping reacting to that with and you got a lot of people on their social posts reacting to then how it's, it's a goofy thing that someone would do that. And then we have a very surprising reaction by an ex opponent, jamal Hill, which is very surprising standing up for alex and I will go ahead and play that for you guys to listen to, which is very interesting yeah, and it's uh from saturday night, mma.
Harley:And just as a quick aside after seeing this, my respect I've. I've mentioned in past episodes that I don't have a high respect for jamal hill, but after seeing this, my respect I've. I've mentioned in past episodes that I don't have a high respect for jamal hill, but after seeing this, my respect has grown plus 10 000 aura points basically all right, here we go I also caught the video a lot of people has already seen it of the ex-girl that he was with.
Jamahal Hill:You know that he cut out of his life because she wasn't being real and things like that. Coming in and trying to come in and take a shot that shit lame as hell. I'm just gonna keep real. That's like really really lame for her to do. And just like she like married, got a, got a arm, married to somebody else. You know, I mean that whole situation and whatnot. And it's bro. How have you not moved on with your life from then? Like this was like over a year ago, like you can really tell whoever the plus side was in a relationship or who was really offering the other person more, giving more than they were being offered whenever it ends and they feel a need to keep trying to use their name and drag themselves back into the situation or the view of that person. Shadi, you gotta move on and let that go. That's lame.
Alan :I completely agree with Jamal Hill on point on point and I'll give a little bit of context from what I understand, just from the little bit of research that I did. I didn't want to research into anybody's personal life because I'm not, I don't like that personally. Didn't want to research into anybody's personal life because I'm not, I don't like that personally.
Harley:Don't want to be invading. I don't want to be invading.
Alan :But from what I understand with this woman, who sounds horrible, While they were engaged she was with another gentleman. Is what I understand.
Harley:Real quick as an aside During our little bit of research. Just now turns out the ex-fiance was already married, not formerly married, was currently married and still is married to that guy. To the other guy I should say so she was living a double life with alex right and also polinio uh, which is a alex's coach.
Alan :He also commented about that, which is a very poignant comment. I'll go ahead and pull that one up too. She should ride into the sunset and give her husband more attention. She spent time with both him and poet on for a year without anyone knowing she's, which is crazy to me. Yeah, you know, it's just crazy how someone could do that in general and live a whole second life. It's's dirty. And just to end it there, alex went ahead and commented, saying I think she should stop mentioning my name because her husband might get jealous. Chama.
Harley:A good, concise, non-inflammatory thing to say.
Alan :Good concise because at the end of the day, he's winning man Non-inflammatory thing to say. Good concise because at the end of the day, he's winning man and people who dwell on X's and things like that. They don't get to move forward and she's definitely holding herself back by being nasty that way and not doing herself any favors, which is freaking sad to see in humanity man it is, but we'll go ahead and end. The see in humanity man it is, but we'll go ahead and end the UFC.
Harley:Talk there, Harley. All in all, UFC 313 was pretty traumatic.
Alan :And in that same theme what about?
Harley:our next segment. I think we have some pretty traumatizing Reddit reacts for you. Alrighty, let's dig into that. Alan, are you ready to be traumatized? I'm already traumatized. Wow, are you ready to be traumatized?
Alan :I'm already traumatized.
Harley:Well, are you prepared to be more traumatized?
Alan :PTSD homie.
Harley:Alright, so our first story for the day is from Reddit, and it's from the subreddit TraumatizeThemBack. Now the original poster has already deleted their account, even though it was only seven days ago that they posted this oh, wow I don't know why, but I don't want to speculate so the title is neighbor wouldn't quit revving his engine.
Harley:I made his backyard all but unusable until he quit, and then the tag for this type of traumatized and back is petty revenge. Last spring my old neighbor, who was a saint, sold her house and moved away. The people that moved in were awful. The guy who we'll call Pete owns some sort of new black Mustang that sounds like it has no muffler and he revs it up and down the subdivision streets in the evenings, literally five days a week, when a lot of people, myself included, sit on the back porch and watch TV. During the summer it is relentless.
Alan :And he's riding through a subdivision like that. That's crazy.
Harley:Yeah, that's janky to do that in a subdivision especially Terrible. This guy also drives up and down the state highway that is on the other side of my house doing the same thing, but louder, because it's 55 mile per hour speed limit. You can hear it for miles, Sheesh, and he has friends over regularly in the backyard and they sit there on the weekends and some weeknights revving up the car. It is truly so loud that you cannot do anything but wait for him to be done. There was a big Facebook conversation in the HOA group and a bunch of neighbors politely asked him not to do this. Pete's exact response I pay a lot of money for this house, I'll do what I want in my own yard and the streets are public. Well, I didn't like that. So here's what I did next, with a little context.
Harley:Our subdivision has about 150 houses on about 300 acres. It's big. Most of the properties in this subdivision are between one to four acres in size. I have a three acre corner Due to an agreed upon land split slash sale 10 years ago between the HOA, all neighbors within the vicinity and the former owners. My next door neighbor's house is on the smallest piece of property in the subdivision at 0.45 acres.
Harley:Well, I know from 15 years of living here that anytime I have a fire on the side of the yard next to Pete's, the smoke is guaranteed to travel in the direction of Pete's house. I know this because I couldn't ever have a fire when my old neighbor was outside, as it would literally fill her backyard with smoke if ever the wood had even a hint of moisture in it. So I moved my fire pit about a dozen years ago to the other side of my house and towards the road, so that I could be a good neighbor. And you know, Pete, letting me know that he wouldn't quit making noise, reminded me that I just loved having my fire pit right in the middle of my backyard. That's where the little pentagon is in the diagram above.
Harley:It took me a single weekend to dig up the pavers and blocks, move them back to my preferred spot and get myself a fire going in my new fire pit. I just need to wait until Pete has people over. I made sure the inaugural fire was a good one. Pete had friends over, it was a nice day, and so I started the fire, Got it just about started, and then I added all the wettest, grossest wood I could find. And about ten minutes later Pete and all of his friends were visibly upset by the stench, so they all went in.
Alan :Oh man, that's genius.
Harley:I mean it's great.
Alan :It's using the elements against your enemies. It's his backyard.
Harley:He pays a lot of money for his house. Let him enjoy it how he wants.
Alan :That motherfucker is airbending right now he's airbending.
Harley:They came back out a little later. I added more wet, nasty wood. They went in again. I kept that up the entire day, sheesh, and then I added a bunch of grass clipping to keep it going overnight. The next day still smoldering, still smelling awful oh my god. I put out a facebook post on the hoa website that let people know I'd be continuing to utilize my fire pit as often as possible so they could bring me their lawn scraps. I had about 20 people respond in a few hours saying their clippings were all mine.
Alan :No way.
Harley:I kept that fire going. My dogs are good alarms and they rush outside anytime anybody is in Pete's backyard. So I would hear the dog scramble, go out and add more clippings after about three weeks. Side note three weeks is a long, freaking time to be doing the fire and stuff anyway after about three weeks, pete and his wife come out and very kindly asked me what was going on with the fire pit three weeks before they did this.
Harley:Yeah, they're patient I mean the wife's patient to hear that really yeah exactly she very politely informed me that her hair would smell like a campfire if she went into her backyard for any amount of time, and they could smell it coming into their house through their duct work. He said I was making it hard for him to enjoy his backyard with his friends. They asked me if I could ease back with the fire, as I probably didn't know that it was impacting so much of their home life. I looked at him and his wife and I said that it was clear that sometimes we didn't recognize how big of an effect something could have on our neighbors until they told us about it. But then I said as objectively as possible that I normally live by the same. I'll do what I want in my yard thought process, as Pete does. I have a right to enjoy my yard.
Harley:I looked at Pete dead in the eyes and said and I know you support that because of how the conversation concluded about your car, right, pete? He looked at me like I had just scratched his favorite CD. He knew what I was doing and his wife looked at him and it just dawned on her. She said she gets it and we won't hear the Mustang anymore. I said thanks. I took a gamble and put the fire out right after that, and it was the right call. I haven't talked to them much since I'm not too concerned about that because I haven't heard the Mustang since either.
Alan :He got what he wanted. It only took three weeks of burning.
Harley:Yeah, and given how long they've been living there, evidently it kind of sounds like this guy could potentially be a retiree, so he had a lot of time and energy to just devote to that. You really don't want to piss off somebody who has a lot of time and energy to devote to getting back at you well, talk about petty revenge story, and he took that to another level absolutely.
Harley:I don't know about you, but I'm fortunate in that I've never had a neighbor be so awful in that way, just disturbing everything and all that. But I think I would probably go a similar route to that if I had such an option available. I mean, it doesn't outright hurt them and it's definitely not breaking any laws or ordinances or anything like that, but it gets the point across that what you do has an effect on the people around you and what they do has an effect on you too. So be kind.
Alan :Moral of the story yeah, be kind and be considerate.
Harley:And be considerate.
Alan :That's like the main thing is be considerate for people around you.
Harley:Absolutely Well. That was, I'm sure, traumatizing for the people who were getting smoked out.
Alan :And not in the good kind, not in the good one, do you?
Harley:have a traumatizing story for us today.
Alan :Well, I hope you're ready to get traumatized.
Harley:Harley, try your best, I got a good one.
Alan :Alright, let's hear it Under subreddit am I the asshole?
Harley:Yeah, there can be some serious trauma in those.
Alan :And this one's by throwaway upset dash. So I guess it's a throwaway account.
Harley:Hmm.
Alan :Title is. I feel violated and confused by what my fiance did to me. Would I be the asshole if I told my parents Question mark? Hmm, I, female 20 years old, am engaged to my fiance, male 26. And we've been together for two years. He's never done something like this before, so I guess this is why I'm so scared. I just don was two nights ago and I haven't left my bed since. Basically, we were in his bed in his home and we were going to sleep. For info, my fiancé and I have never slept together before and we don't do anything like that because I'm supposed to be saving myself for marriage. He knows this and supports it and likes that for me, which is also why I feel so confused.
Alan :He basically started touching me places and I kind of was like what are you doing? And he said nothing, just touching. I made a joke about how I don't think it's allowed and he snapped and said he doesn't care what's allowed or what's not. I was quiet and afraid and I kind of let him do it, but I felt weird after a while. He was kissing me and basically asked me to do something for him in that way. I told him no and tried to laugh it off. It was awkward and I felt low-key, uncomfortable. He just held me there and told me to do it again. Do it for him again.
Alan :I said no again and got up to go to the bathroom because I was shaking. He followed me and said that I couldn't leave the bathroom unless I got down and did it for him. I kept saying no and honestly I thought he was joking for a minute, but he was dead serious. He even closed the door and blocked it and he said he would wait all night. I said me too, and we just stood there for a while. Eventually I sat down on the edge of the bathtub trying to prove how I wouldn't seriously wait all night. He then violently grabbed my shoulders and literally pulled me really hard onto the ground. I hit my knees hard on the tile, but he did not ask if I was okay. I had to do what he wanted and the entire time I was just so sad and scared and embarrassed and uncomfortable. It was very uncomfortable, an awkward and painful experience all around.
Alan :He was much nicer for the rest of the night and apologized for hurting my knees. He told me not to cry and not to tell anyone, because he still wants me to wait until married and they might think we didn't. He said stuff like that stays between couples, which I understand. I went home the next morning and my mom asked me if I was okay. I said yes, I haven't told anyone because I'm ashamed. I said yes, I haven't told anyone because I'm ashamed. I feel violated, but I also know I wasn't supposed to do anything like that, so I don't want to tell anyone. I did. I'm just confused. I think Would I be awful?
Harley:to tell my mom what he did. That's the end, right.
Alan :That's the end, but there is an update.
Harley:Oh my god rape sexual assault. Yeah, I'm thinking okay, well, yeah, technically it'd probably be sexual assault. But just because you're in a relationship with someone doesn't mean that they're not assaulting you, especially when you specifically say no, and and the no isn't like a playful part of the game yeah, no, that's not remotely acceptable and you anyone in that situation should get out of that situation because that person has now shown you their true colors and it's not going to get well.
Harley:Well it could get better, but it requires true effort and desire from the person doing the perpetrating. I know, and that is so rare.
Alan :It's rare, and there's a comment here that's pretty interesting. It's by Nylevest and it says yes, go ahead and tell your mom, but, more importantly, break up with this asshole immediately. You described multiple ways in which he used force on you to get what he wanted. Even just begging and pleading for sexual stuff isn't okay, but consent should be enthusiastic. But this guy takes advantage of you being in bed with him just to help himself to whatever parts of your body are within reach. He held you prisoner in the bathroom and then literally grabbed you and pushed you around. He even hurt you all because he wanted to get off. Presumably you wouldn't even be started. You wouldn't have even started dating this guy. If you believe this is who he is, he was hiding it until now. You now know. So get out.
Harley:I mean, yeah, that's largely how I see it. I mean holy moly.
Alan :There's another comment by Iamtheramcast. It says Okay, before I start, we all know a crime took place here, that what he did was wrong and illegal. But I'm saying this to give OP a line of thought to follow. Let's pretend for a second that what he said was right or that you live in a place where it is not possible to press charges or have the law intervene. All those icky feelings that you're feeling. Do you want to stay in a relationship that makes you feel that way? Do you associate those feelings with healthy and respectful relationship? Walk away, ideally, have him slapped with a long arm of the law, but at a minimum, free yourself absolutely.
Harley:I mean that's. It's a very well reasoned and kind way of putting it probably much more likely to reach a person than outright telling them to just leave yeah, it's.
Alan :I know it's not easy, but hey, there's an update after those comments by the op good Good.
Alan :Good and talk to me. She also explained a lot of things to me that I should probably just keep private, but it made sense, though. I reconciled with my fiance and he apologized wholeheartedly and profusely to me. I believe he is sorry, and while we both acknowledge this is still really, really, really hurtful to me, he is not going to push me anymore or do anything like that again, so I'm going to be okay. I'm going to get married next week. Thank you again for all the comments, though I really am grateful for them.
Harley:Well, I hope that that contrition is real. That's all I have to say about that.
Alan :Far too many times, it's not Far too many times, it's just the final hiding it before she's trapped right, uh you know or feels more trapped feels more trapped and those are kind of like the little signs that kind of start when someone's trying to be physical with you in that manner. It's just like little signs that, like you said, things can possibly get worse and worse before they get better sometimes very rarely do they get better very rarely if they get worse than where they're already at
Alan :that's pretty rare yeah, it's an interesting scenario and I know that uh the op is uh pretty traumatized by this scenario and I hope things go well for them and things do get better. It's one of those rare cases where things do get better.
Harley:I hope so.
Alan :I hope so, fingers crossed.
Harley:All righty. So I have another one that was traumatizing to the person who instigated this transaction not interaction, rather but was very satisfying to read and I'm sure many others will find it satisfying and it's from the subreddit Entitled People by UJuggalo chris, and the title is karen, do you know who I am me? No, tell us, karen, my husband is blank. Dot dot dot me. That's your husband. Tell, tell us who you are. Unfortunately, that title is way too in-depth.
Alan :That's the title.
Harley:That was the title.
Alan :Maybe you could read that one back to me. I thought that was part of the story.
Harley:Right, but that's the whole title. It's way too long. Anyway, this happened on Thursday but I forgot to post this. So I, 27 male, was walking to the metro when I saw a guy getting harassed by this short woman. This is what I can remember them saying, translated from dutch man, you have been following me since we were in the local supermarket. What is wrong with you? Woman yelling how rude. Do you know who I am? Me blurting out? Why don't you tell us at that moment? I know I might have messed up. Both are now looking at me. The woman yelling in a in an insulted tone. My husband is insert name. I don't remember. He is a famous accountant at insert company name. I don't remember me having giving up on escaping. That's who your husband is. Who are you the woman? My husband got a promotion last month because he helped dot dot dot me cutting her off. That's what your husband has done. Who are you and what important thing have you done? The man now grinning yeah, tell us. Wappy, the Dutch word for Karen.
Alan :Wappy. I like that one better than Karen.
Harley:Eh, kind of better. The woman, now red-faced, was stammering, now, unable to come up with something. I then asked would it be that you have done nothing important? The woman let me think for a second. She then started to think and slowly turned pale. I asked the same question again who are you and what important thing have you done? Without an answer, the woman left having a pale face. I then said sorry to the man for not minding my own business, but he said that it was okay and thanked me. I still wonder who she was and what she had done that made her so important whappy I mean, I think that should be a common response in a lot of scenarios like that.
Harley:There's a lot of people that hide behind somebody else. It's not just spouses, not just women to men and all that it's. I know this person Well. Whoop-de-frickin'-do-da.
Alan :Who are you yeah?
Harley:And why do I care?
Alan :Is she trying to name drop, like okay, like I know, bobby Flby flay well, do you lady?
Harley:and what does that mean for anything else in real life? And he's not here?
Alan :a whappy. I like that man yeah, I like that.
Harley:Whappy is a a good uh term rather than villainizing a single name.
Alan :Mm-hmm, that's yeah. Way better than if your name Karen out of birth. You're just going to be the bad guy.
Harley:Yeah, the top comment by Dirty Steve W is Famous accountant. That's my oxymoron of the day. Famous accountant. Same is famous accountant. That's my oxymoron of the day. Same. I always thought when I first read that I was like that's, that's an odd thing to say. They're famous about being because accountants. I've never heard of a famous account. In all honesty, granted, I don't move in those circles, but anyway, following the following comment underneath the top comment, or responding to the top comment, is by play nice, play crazy. And it says as an accountant, I find this statement highly accurate wow, now, those are some nerdy jokes and, uh, someone joked around underneath.
Harley:That is, what are you talking about? My wife is an accountant, and we can't go anywhere in la without her being recognized. We're constantly late because she has to stop and sign autographs and take selfies with fans. On the upside, though, people buy us a lot of free drinks, and restaurants often comp our meals just because she's so famous. What? The hell sheesh oh, that's clearly uh a joke, but some satire yeah, I mean, that's something that I've never.
Harley:I've very rarely encountered it myself, but I know it happens plenty often and it boggles my mind to rely on somebody else to, or someone else's reputation effectively.
Alan :Or like when they're like do you know who I am? And then they like say who they are and they're like okay.
Harley:Well seeing videos that that happens is is very satisfying to watch their ego deflate a little.
Alan :Yeah, and it's like they don't know who I am. So I have a not so traumatizing story, or maybe traumatizing to someone with social anxiety to have this happen to them and it's under. I don't work here, lady, oh boy, and the person is Assault Tank 1. Title is you smell like you work here, so you must work here. Oh God, of all the reasons, you smell like you work here. You smell like shit. You work at a dump. You smell like fresh work here. You smell like shit. You work at the dump.
Harley:You smell like fresh-baked bread. You must be a baker.
Alan :So I'm the pit master at a local barbecue restaurant.
Harley:Uniform is Okay. That is a fairly distinctive smell, to be fair.
Alan :To be fair, To be fair, uniform is black pants and either a black or gray t-shirt with the restaurant name on the front. After work, I often stop by the Walmart to go grocery shopping, as it's on my way home. Well, one day, while I was in the bakery getting hoagie rolls for dinner, she appears Now. She had the typical karen look.
Alan :you know how you were saying about karen she had the typical whappy look yeah, there we go and she looked mad and she spotted me. She opened with finally someone who effing works here. Oh, that's.
Harley:That's a great start.
Alan :I, of course, ignored her and kept going on with my shopping. Well, she didn't like that one bit and rammed her cart into mine and started yelling, Don't you effing? Ignore me, you lazy a**.
Harley:Holy moly Way to escalate.
Alan :I need you to get my f***ing cake decorated. I looked at her, looked down at my black t-shirt with a restaurant name that is very distinct from Walmart, looked back at her and looked down at my shirt and said I don't work here. And then I pulled my card away and turned to leave. She kept yelling yes, you do, you smell like you work here. And then I pulled my card away and turned to leave. She kept yelling yes, you do, you smell like you work here. And grabbed my arm. I pushed her off me and told her what the hell f off, lady, I don't work here. It's not my fault. You're too stupid to see, to read my shirt or know that employees here wear blue vests.
Harley:I mean, that's a pretty valid statement there. Walmart is very distinctive in what they wear.
Alan :She started following yelling obscenities at me until the manager came over to see what's going on. She, of course, demanded I be fired, to which the manager replied that I see what's going on. She of course, demanded I be fired, to which the manager replied that I didn't work there, and they started going back and forth on it and the manager waved me away, so I went back to my shopping. A little while later, I'm getting ready to check out and I see her still standing at the bakery, yelling at the manager about how I pushed her and I needed to be fired, I was rude, and so forth. Wow, wow, Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Harley:Wow, wow, wow about swimming the whole time. All I have to say for instances like that, it kind of seems more like maybe she just had fairly high blood poisoning. Because that's just wild To go up to someone who's clearly not wearing the right kind of shirt and you straight up ram their cart.
Alan :Ram their cart.
Harley:Like that's an imbalance of meds or you've got some sort of mental issue. Something snapped yeah something snapped on that person, I think and as, and it's since it's a woman, it the likelihood of her being colorblind is way lower than a man I don't know about statistical what, how much of a statistical fact that is, but women are. I can't remember the exact percentage, but it is drastically less likely to be colorblind well, she must be blind.
Alan :Blind because only sees in grayscale only sees what she wants to see.
Alan :Oh, there's that yeah, she's like, but you have your name tag on and doesn't even have a name tag. And one of the comments is kind of funny. It says uh, he's by. Slow is smooth. Seven says well, to be fair, I'm sure you smell amazing and she just wanted to bask in your aura. Oh, man, and actually um, another guy commented and he, that's what I was thinking, the same thing, but I don't think I've ever been to a Walmart that smelled like a barbecue restaurant. It certainly would be somewhat of an improvement over the usual smells.
Alan :And then they go on some of the comments. They go on this to talk about what their Walmarts smell like. Like this guy, Robin with a Y. Definitely better than our local Walmart that had a meat cooler go bad. Oh, no, and it ended up smelling like rotten meat. It took them way too long to rectify the situation.
Harley:That's, that's rough rough there's another one.
Alan :Bitter trees says well. Our local warmer one morning had something go wrong with their septic tank smell was so bad you could smell it outside in the parking lot oh my god, ah, and that smell just lingers and just makes everything smell like it. That's horrible dude, Imagine.
Harley:But I mean like. Seriously, though Smoked meat is hard to confuse for bakery smells, even the deli smells in Walmart are significantly different than smoked meat.
Alan :That's such an interesting description though Like you smell, like you work here.
Harley:She had to go to him from presumably at least 20 feet away before she got up close to him and rammed his car and then presumably smelled him.
Alan :Oh my God, there's no way she smelled him from that far Right.
Harley:She's like food. He must work here.
Alan :And it was funny how she just automatically assumed like I need someone to decorate this cake.
Harley:Right, Like somebody who's messing around with the hoagie rolls is going to be your cake decorator.
Alan :Shopping with a cart.
Harley:Yeah.
Alan :Crazy mentality from that lady and I kind of think that this is kind of a traumatizing story, because I think I'd be traumatized by, I mean, the way this guy handled it very well, I don't think I would have.
Harley:I mean he didn't lash out at her. I don't think I would have handled that situation.
Alan :no, Other than verbally, a little bit Like what the hell, lady, get the, get the f*** off my cart. You know, you crazy-ass lady.
Harley:Yeah, and I mean part of me definitely feels very sad for that lady Because clearly something is wrong.
Alan :Something's wrong.
Harley:I mean, that's not even willful ignorance at that point.
Alan :Not normal behavior.
Harley:That's significant imbalance. Willful ignorance at that point, not normal behavior that's significant imbalance. But on the flip side, in his shoes, I probably would react very similarly and basically tell her to f*** off because, realistically, someone who's in that state of mind, who's already unhinged enough to come at you like that, oh yeah you have to be firm and direct and get their attention, because otherwise everything you're saying is just going in one ear and out the other, and that's clearly from the get-go. She clearly wasn't accepting anything.
Alan :He was saying yeah, even if he would have proved to her that he worked somewhere else, she probably would have been like well, you moonlight here on the weekends.
Harley:Yeah, something like that she would just come up with some reason to continue being mad and accusing him of working there. Which is wild to accuse someone of working there.
Alan :It would have been funny if the manager at the time was like you need a job With a lady like that with like how you were saying about mental imbalance. I think it's kind of hard to gauge what would work to kind of de-escalate the situation. I mean, clearly, no matter what he says, she's gonna just continue to think no, he works here, you know.
Harley:I mean. One way that I can think of that would probably have diffused the situation if you find yourself in an actual situation like this, where the person is clearly a little unhinged and very insistent, is to deflect and be like, all right, well, that's not my department, let's find you the right person yeah you know it play into their little uh, whatever you want to call it mad dream of reality fever dream, fever dream whatever what have you?
Harley:and you know them, but also pawn them off on someone who can actually handle the situation. Granted, I feel sorry for pawning someone off, someone like that off on, you know, a regular retail employee, but especially a manager, that that's literally their position.
Alan :That's a big part of their position. She's crazy man.
Harley:You pass her around to this young, young little one more to be fair though, if you start off being helpful like that, once you realize you know what the situation is yeah like clearly she had already come at him sideways with quit, ignoring me, and rammed his cart that was crazy and I'm not gonna say that he didn't handle it in a fairly reasonable way.
Alan :No, he did.
Harley:But as a takeaway for others, it's an entirely feasible and reasonable thing to do is to just play along and direct them into the direction that they actually need to go, and you're less likely to have interactions with the police and the court system, and that was crazy all that because when people like that get angry, it almost always escalates to the police oh yeah and therefore court and what's funny is she probably called the police?
Alan :I doubt it. They don't want to fix my cake and this guy says he works at barbecue.
Jamahal Hill:Yeah, I mean.
Alan :Those are the ones that be calling. Sometimes they do, and then they get caught up. The cop's like lady, you need to leave.
Harley:And then they really don't like to hear that and they're like what?
Alan :Oh no, this is favoritism.
Harley:Or whatever ism they want to place on it.
Alan :Whatever ism, and I think we'll go ahead and end this episode there. Harley, I really like the traumatizing stuff. It makes me feel a little less traumatized by my life, so I think that helps this is like better than therapy A little therapeutic there, huh yeah, this is better. Better than therapy a little therapeutic there, huh yeah this is better than some lady taking notes and laughing at me if your therapist is laughing at you, you need to get a new therapist. I think that would be hilarious dude that would not be hilarious like you're like oh my god, I just had a terrible childhood.
Alan :And the lady's like god.
Harley:That would potentially put things into perspective if you really didn't have that bad of a childhood, I suppose get a better therapist that too, and keep those gloves up, cause you're gonna need them both the mental and the physical ones you're just gonna need those gloves up be prepared and don't forget to like and subscribe.
Alan :We sincerely appreciate that and have a great one have a nice one everyone.
