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UFC Bombshells and they found WHAT in the hotel room?!
The octagon delivers another epic showdown as Jack Della Maddalena claims the welterweight championship with a masterful performance against Belal Muhammad at UFC 315. What began as an underrated card transformed into one of the year's most consequential events, reshaping multiple weight divisions and setting up fascinating matchups for the future.
The aftermath brings a bombshell announcement as Islam Makhachev declares his intention to vacate the lightweight belt and move up to challenge the new welterweight champion. We break down the fascinating timing of this decision, the implications for both divisions, and what it means for other contenders waiting in the wings. With Makhachev's impressive 15-fight win streak and Della Maddalena's remarkable takedown defense, this potential superfight promises to be nothing short of spectacular.
Looking ahead, we preview what's shaping up to be an incredible summer for UFC fans. From Merab vs O'Malley to Topuria making his lightweight championship debut against Oliveira, and Holloway putting his BMF belt on the line in what might be Dustin Poirier's retirement fight – the upcoming cards are stacked with meaningful matchups. We also dive into the light heavyweight drama surrounding Alex Pereira and a mysterious social media post that briefly had fans concerned about his future.
Shifting gears, we uncover disturbing secrets from various industries that companies would prefer to keep hidden. Former employees reveal how health insurance companies deliberately slow claims processing to hold onto money longer, how correctional facilities dump hazardous waste into public waterways, and why your diligent recycling efforts might be more symbolic than effective. We also expose the shocking truth about food safety in restaurants and the astronomical markups in the jewelry and luxury watch industries.
Ready for some hard truths and exciting fight analysis? Join us for this revealing episode that peels back the curtain on both the UFC and corporate America. Subscribe now and keep those gloves up – you'll need them to fight off these shady business practices!
Welcome back to Peak Points. Today we're going to be discussing some highlights of UFC 315, and then we're going to do a little bit of discussion about future cards and a little bit of mentioning on some drama, and then we're going to be going on to talking about some juicy secrets that some companies might not want you to know All from Reddit, of course, alan.
Speaker 2:And if you want to skip ahead this time, I'll go ahead and have the Reddit section on the chapters bar. So go ahead and fast forward that if you'd like to. But for now let's get into the Octagon. Heck yeah. And what big UFCfc news man. There's been, uh, just just an amazing flurry of news coming from the ufc. We'll just start off talking about 315 first yeah, yeah and I'll just start by, uh, glossing over the prelim section of that ufc 315 card.
Speaker 1:Sounds good.
Speaker 2:I will say prior that a lot of people thought this was a lackluster card and not too much excitement about it. Yeah. But watching this card fully it really showed some great excitement. Dude, it was amazing. And then we have a big, Some real entertainment.
Speaker 2:Some real entertainment and we have a big news bomb at the end of this card. Uh, I'll just start off with that prelim. So we got navajo sterling versus urslan and uh, that was a very surprising fight. Uh, urslan actually put up a really big fight and gave a big test to sterling uh, I think one of the biggest tests that he's had so far. And then we got that Modestus Bukaskis versus Kutalaba. I know Modestus won, but honestly I thought it was a robbery. I thought Kutalaba won that and kind of the stats kind of show that he won that. But we'll just move on from that one Right.
Speaker 2:I mean it was a split decision, it was a split decision and I do think that Kutalava should have won that one. And then we go on to that next fight, that Jessica Andrade versus Yamin Jastavicius. And that was actually an amazing fight. Dude, yamin put up one heck of a fight against former champ, submitting her like dominantly and quickly.
Speaker 1:I mean only two minutes and 40 seconds into round one.
Speaker 2:That is a pretty darn quick submission time what an amazing performance against that former champ, giving her that performance of the night. And then we got to that mike malott versus uh, charles ratke. A lot of shit talking in this one from the beginning. Yeah. But Mike Millat, what a freaking knockout dude. They traded blows, mike ate it, the other guy didn't, yeah, so that was amazing. We'll move on to that main card, benoit St-Denis versus Kyle Propolik, who wasn't supposed to be his original fight, but nevertheless. Look at those odds, dude Minus 1,600.
Speaker 1:Talk about a favorite.
Speaker 2:Plus 900 for Propolik.
Speaker 1:Wow, could you imagine how well off you could have done in the betting if Propolik had actually won?
Speaker 2:Oh wow, you know, I could only speculate, but that did not happen. Benoit Saint-Denis put in that work submitting him, and then we have another.
Speaker 1:Sorry, how short of a notice was that. I'd never heard.
Speaker 2:It wasn't maybe like a week or two, I don't really recall, but it was fairly short notice and props to him for standing up for it.
Speaker 1:Definitely nowhere near a reasonable fight camp.
Speaker 2:No against. You know, the odds still were kind of, even though he's coming off that losing skid, benoit Saint-Denis still had the favorite for this one. Yeah, and deservedly so, because that was a great performance by him. And then we have another amazing performance against another former champion in the women's flyweight, alexa crossover versus natalia silva. I just want to say, man, this natalia silva chick is a freaking dog dude. I'm talking about spinning kicks, switch kicks. She was hitting nasty combos.
Speaker 1:A nice deep toolbox.
Speaker 2:Deep toolbox, making her the favorite against former champion, which to me speaks volumes about her. It sure does. And Alexa Grosso, I don't think she lost too much stock on this one, mainly because she did put up a great fight. She kept pushing forward she ate some nasty head kicks dude, like I remember. Like how did she eat that? But? But nevertheless, great performance, uh, by natalia silva winning unanimously. And then we, we have another Jose Aldo robbery and that's like back-to-back robberies for Jose Aldo.
Speaker 2:He lost to Amen Sahabi which great performance by Sahabi, but he got dropped like twice I think, by Jose Aldo and he still ended up winning somehow. It was unanimous. But yeah and uh, jose Aldo, a legend in the sport, uh, multiple time champion, and I will say that after the fight he took off his gloves and said that, uh, he, basically his body couldn't do the weight cut, so he did miss weight. And.
Speaker 2:Zahabi did spot him the weight and they still fought. So I commend Zahabi for that Fighting a legend and beating a legend. But Jose Aldo at the end said his body physically was not able to cut the weight anymore.
Speaker 1:And I mean that's understandable. How old is he now, supposedly like?
Speaker 2:39. But I mean, that's understandable. How old is he now? Supposedly like 39, but I think he's like 45.
Speaker 1:I was about to say he definitely looks to be in his 40s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:And a rough 40s.
Speaker 2:There's a running gag in the UFC community. That that's not his real age and Brazilians have different birth certificates and all that open for interpretation. I won't speculate on that, but I will say great legend, José Aldo, and he's retiring again and I think this time for good, basically saying his body cannot do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, he's not going to just fall off the end of the world here in a few months. He needs to take care of himself, and I do think even though I do think he's still going to just fall off the end of the world here in a few months he needs to take care of himself.
Speaker 2:And I do think even though I do think he's still going to continue to fight, but not in mixed martial arts, and I'm thinking that he might even pick up some boxing- Okay. I don't know. He's one of those guys that he loves the fighting, you know.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, then we got Valentina Shevchenko retaining her belt, keeping her belt against a great contender, manon Fior. Honestly, that was a great fight too, but she was very dogged, that entire fight Pretty much showing why she's the champion. We'll see what's next for that division. I know that Weili Zhang I think she's contemplating in going up and weight and facing her like you've actually seen this or you're just hoping it.
Speaker 2:I would say open for interpretation, because Whaley posted something right after, right after that win and basically pointed at her and was saying like kind of saying like I'm next or something like that, just from what. I recall, okay, and I think if she does go up and wait, I mean that's two of the best in the world going against each other, so I think that would be an amazing fight if that were to happen, but maybe not in whaley's favor yeah, because, uh, valentine is pretty big.
Speaker 1:I was about to say that yes, I mean I know whaley is amazingly skilled, right, but the weight difference is discrepancy pretty significant. I don't get me wrong. I'm sure Wehle could definitely add a fair amount of weight, but she doesn't look like she's on the edge of falling down from malnourishment when she is on the scales you know, so, I don't know how much realistic and usable weight she can actually add, so it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's going to be interesting all around, but we'll see what's going to happen on the horizon? Oh yeah, and then we got that fight of the night, two words that you don't hear associated with Bilal Muhammad's name.
Speaker 1:Exciting.
Speaker 2:Amazing. But that's what this freaking fight was, guys, and what a freaking war Jack Della Maddalena brought it dude. He brought an entire tool bag after being what nearly a year off.
Speaker 1:His fight camp was exactly what he needed for this challenge. Clearly, Amazing he handled those takedown attempts and well, a couple of takedowns that did happen. He handled way better than I've ever seen anyone against Bilal.
Speaker 2:And way better than anybody even anticipated, mm-hmm, because he got taken down his previous fight against gilbert burns, which I just want to say that that fight with gilbert burns was an amazing war as well, where he ended up tkoing gilbert burns, finishing him with a broken arm.
Speaker 2:He broke his arm in that fight yeah you could see the x-ray later on if you want, search that up. Jack Della, and that's why he was off for so long, coming to this fight against this champion who dominated most of his fights. I mean you got to say he wins by decision. Yeah. But it's usually a body bag against Belal. He's very skilled, I mean, he beat Leon Edwards, you know.
Speaker 1:But it's usually a body bay against Belal. He's very skilled. I mean, he beat Leon Edwards, you know. Yeah, he's a very skilled grappler, not skilled in submissions, but he's skilled in controlling.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And to have Jack be able to roll out from under him multiple times and keep him off of him multiple other times, is it speaks to Jack's skill?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it speaks volumes, mainly because this is championship rounds, this is five rounds, and for five rounds Jack Della was not content with any position on the ground. The scrambles, amazing, the striking, amazing, and Bilal took it to him.
Speaker 1:No matter what, bilal kept going forward and that was very admirable and I honestly think, screw about losing stock, bilal, muhammad gained stock from this fight honestly, I think so too, because I mean, I've seen fights I'm struggling to remember names, but I've seen fights where, when the person who is more grappling centered gets rocked too many times or starts to get gassed, they just start spamming takedown attempts or to clinch against the cage, just over and over and over. And he didn't do that.
Speaker 2:That was not the case here.
Speaker 1:no, I mean, he definitely continued to go for takedowns, but he wasn't just relentlessly going after those, no matter what.
Speaker 2:Right and I will say a lot of the talk that I kind of don't appreciate about people talking smack about fighters on social media and stuff like that mainly people saying that he didn't do enough takedown attempts against Cech.
Speaker 1:I think he did an entirely reasonable amount, given how ineffective they were.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and that is exactly my thought.
Speaker 1:You're just taking chances to get yourself knocked out really, if you're going to be constantly having your attempts rebutted like that.
Speaker 2:And I don't think that that doesn't speak to Bilal's game plan, that it was a bad game plan. That speaks to Jack's determination to not get taken down and the range. It was just an amazing game plan from Jack. And I will add aside from the fight, the big news is obviously that Islam Makachev was watching this fight very closely, and I'm talking with a microscope Because, prior from my understanding, the fight versus Toporio may have already been on the table Prior to this fight.
Speaker 1:It was already on the table.
Speaker 2:It certainly wasn't official yet, but it did seem like it was in consideration by more than one party. Exactly, and I had heard rumors but I didn't know how true this was that Islam was considering going up in weight, all depending on the outcome of this fight, because, obviously, from what I understand, bilal and him are great friends, uh, trained together and, uh, they did not want to fight each other's, from what I understand, and, honestly, in my opinion, that's entirely reasonable for one weight discrepancy, sure.
Speaker 1:and two if you're friends, yeah you. It's harder to put on a knock-down, drag-out fight against someone you are friends with. It's not just respect, it's not just enjoying being around them, you're friends with them. For some especially, it's really hard to go to that extent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fighting with friends, I mean it could be difficult. I don't know what the background information is, but I do know, as I was saying, Islam was watching this fight very closely, even tweeting. I think that, basically, his decision relies on the outcome of this. Yeah. Jack Della winning and him posting immediately afterward Mm-hmm Dropping the belt and moving up to 170. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And right after the next day, jack Della did an interview and they asked him like what do you think about that fight? Or they asked him actually post-fight what do you think about that fight? Or they asked him actually at post fight what do you think about that fight against islam? And he basically said he's up for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it does sound like islam markachev is going to be the next to fight jack della um and I don't know how soon that one's going to be, but that's going to be an amazing fight and I just want to say there's a lot of controversy with him vacating the belt.
Speaker 1:There always is.
Speaker 2:Given the aspirations that he had for double champion status and given that prior this is a new rule having to vacate your belt in order to go out for another one I mean, conor McGregor was a two-time champion In order to go out for another one. I mean, conor McGregor was a two-time champ and he you know, I think he held both at the same time, not to mention Daniel Cormier, simultaneous champion, light heavyweight and heavyweight. So it's kind of strange. I know a lot of people are on the fence about that, saying that Islam has done so much in the UFC that maybe he did deserve to hold both belts simultaneously, or given the chance to hold both belts simultaneously.
Speaker 1:In that, I think, belts should be vacated because if you are winning especially championship level at a higher weight class, you're being a weight bully. And winning at a lower weight class just because you can cut the weight is frankly, pathetic in my opinion. It's like a high schooler beating up middle schoolers.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous it could be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see how you could hold respect in that personally right.
Speaker 2:I mean he is known kind of as a large lightweight, I mean uh, 5'10, 5'11 looking, and a lot of people do say that he's very large, uh, so I don't think he'll have a problem getting to that weight. I just want to look at some of his past fights and just read off some of these fights, because he's on a 15 fight win streak yeah, that was another thing I was going to touch on I think it is definitely time for him to move up. And if he was?
Speaker 1:waiting for Bilal to no longer be championship, then I think it was past time for him to be moving up.
Speaker 2:And before I mention his fight, I do want to go on about that tweet saying that he's going to move up in weight. Didn't say anything about Bilal Muhammad, didn't say anything about his friend, and then afterward he was like, oh yeah, keep your anything about Bilal Muhammad. Didn't say anything about his friend, and then afterward he was like oh yeah, and keep your head up, bilal, you know. And he sent another tweet like oh shit, I gotta say something. Sorry about that champion, you know this and that. And this puts Bilal in a funny spot. I don't know what spot this puts him, but the way that they're making the division sound, it sounds like they're sending them to the freaking shadow realm, bro, like okay, below loss, let's pack them up. To hell with you.
Speaker 2:To hell with you. You know, I don't know what they're going to do, but that division is stacking up very nicely and now we got a freaking curveball changing the freaking ufc in in of itself. I mean you know, sorry, uh.
Speaker 1:I think it also makes a lot of sense how slow and not interested um islam's was about the whole ilia, the potential of ilia fighting him yeah, I mean because, he had his eyes set on moving up anyway, exactly, and he was just waiting for the outcome of this fight, which everyone knew was coming anyway.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I mean, he said it, he said it prior, he said it. Why should I give this guy a chance? I've already fought a lower weight class guy twice, bokanowski Beating him twice. The second time it was AI. I don't remember that one at all. We'll just move on Crazy seeing him move up in weight. I've seen a couple training camp videos with him, or a couple training videos with him, and he's looking very big.
Speaker 2:He's not looking like a 155er at all which is kind of those surprising things like how he even made that weight. It's kind of trippy to me. But another change I mean you got Toporga going up to 155, shaking it up, him going versus Oliveira. Yeah, wow, dude. I mean just amazing things. But we'll take a look at Islam's fights, how he got to that 15-fight win streak. I'll read off some of the names Makhachev versus Dober won that versus Moises versus Dan Hooker, bobby Green you got Oliveira, he beat him. You got Volkanovski, he beat him twice. And then we had that Makachev versus Poirier fight Amazing fight, by the way, by Poirier. It was just a great war by them. And then we had that first round win by him versus Moicano.
Speaker 2:We'll just gloss over that yeah yeah, uh, so the divisions are shaping up very interestingly, way different than they were before. It's just, uh, stuff that I wouldn't, I wouldn't personally imagine, and I I didn't really have in mind starting this year, that this would be the news that we would receive no and so great fight card uh, that UFC 315 amazing fight Balal versus Jack Della uh, congratulations to the new champion.
Speaker 2:Uh, jack Della Madalena, and what an amazing performance he put up he did. And uh, uh, a great performance by Balal as well. I don't want people to forget that.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, like that was honestly the best fight of his. I've ever seen win or loss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's exactly what I meant by him gaining stock by this. And just to move forward, we'll go ahead and talk about UFC 316 quickly, which is coming up June 7th. That's in the Newark, united States, and I think it's a great card. We got Marab versus that rematch against Sean O'Malley mixed signals when it comes to that fight. I know a lot of people are either saying Sean deserves this or Sean doesn't, so it's kind of like a mixed bag. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Just go ahead and watch the first fight. And Murav dominated him in my opinion, but moving forward after that, we got that. Julia Pena, she's got that belt.
Speaker 1:Versus Kayla Harrison. I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2:And that's going to be a great fight. I mean, kayla Harrison has been a dog and what a specimen. I think she's kind of like a Brock Lesnar-looking type, but she's very fit, is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:She would be scary face-to-face if she was angry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't believe that she's making it to the strong weight, to bantamweight. Yeah, it's crazy that she's able to cut that low. And then we got Kevin Gastelum fighting Joe Pfeiffer. It's been a while since we've seen Kelvin Gastelum. And then we got Mario Bautista fighting Patchy coming into the UFC, bichente Luque versus Kevin Holland. So we'll see Kevin Holland. I mean, let's see how he does in the welterweight division, you know. So that should be great.
Speaker 1:He's had kind of a rough go of it recently.
Speaker 2:Yes, he has, I mean, but he's fought nothing but dogs. I will say, we got a Johnny Walker fight in the prelims and we got a Bruno Silva versus Joshua Vann in the prelims and we got a bruno silva versus joshua van in the prelims. So that should be exciting, a pretty exciting card there should definitely be at least one knockout uh, there's prelims?
Speaker 2:yeah, there should. Whose it is? Uh, you know, we'll see. Now I want to get into some of the cards coming up. I'll just gloss over the main fight of that card just to, just just to let you know what kind of summer we're going to be having, because us, as usc fans, we're eating good this summer just right off the bat with that shawn o'malley fight versus uh marab. Then you got Usman versus Buckley. That should be an absolute banger Hill versus Roundtree. We're actually getting that fight.
Speaker 1:I'm interested in that fight, for sure.
Speaker 2:We got that, toporia making his championship debut for 155 versus Oliveira, the UFC gods.
Speaker 1:Versus Oliveira, the UFC gods. You know, we all want, everybody wants Oliveira to win because that's, you know, your favorite fighter's favorite fighter. An interesting little tidbit I'm seeing here looking at the fight card on UFC is that they've just automatically placed Ilya as number three. I didn't realize that prior to this.
Speaker 2:Yeah. He's listed as Oliveira at number two and and ilia number three yeah, I mean with no fights in the weight division it's crazy that, uh, we're actually seeing this fight come into fruition. Definitely not something that I expected to see this year, or I ever had in mind, you know, but, uh, great run, what a great, amazing run by ilia toporia knocking out two legends back to back leaving his mark in his division of 145 yeah, vacating that belt.
Speaker 2:And um, I'll just mention some of the aspirations that he has are for triple champion status. That would be insane the first ever to do it. Now this is setting up to be quite the story, because we got islam going up, we got ilia on the cusp of a championship in another weight division and it doesn't seem like he minds vacating that belt if he has to dropping dropping that 155, going up to 170 and chasing Islam Because his brother says that he can do it.
Speaker 2:Interesting yeah says that he can do it, he can become the first triple champ and of course we're always going to be like extra confident, you know. Yeah, yeah. But that is his aspirations. You know, yeah, but that what? That is his aspirations, and we're all hoping that. Olivera has the the willpower to deny that. Yeah, we got Derek Lewis versus Teixeira, after that another that's like in July, and then we got that Holloway versus Poirier.
Speaker 1:That's going to be an interesting fight. The.
Speaker 2:Diamonds Final fight, according to him. You know I don't want it to be like the memes I've been seeing, you know, with the Wolf of Wall Street in him, no-transcript leaving, I'm not leaving yeah, not, not entirely ideal in that case and we got max holloway putting up that bmf belt on the line for the diamonds retirement fight and that's going to be in july 19.
Speaker 2:And then we got another banger that was announced recently was that whittaker versus the ridder absolutely oh man, that that should be an amazing fight, because that the recently was that Whitaker versus DeRitter Absolutely oh man, that should be an amazing fight because that. Deritter, dude, he's a problem, he is a problem and he's a massive, massive size for that weight division man.
Speaker 1:Although, to be fair, aside from having his teeth broken, Whitaker is a problem in that division.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Absolutely. Always, always a contender Heender to be respected in that, in that weight class always a contender and he's, uh, coming in to shut down that hype of the ridder. I mean he's in the 185ers, you know, and he's like six, four, so he's like Alex sized, yeah, in that division. That Derrida guy, it's interesting. We got Abazi versus Tayara and then we got that fight. That I am very very excited about Drikus Duplassie versus Chimaev Coming to the United States after years and years of not being able to so what a treat.
Speaker 1:I'm definitely interested in how that will play out.
Speaker 2:What a treat the Chicago crowd is going to have, because you're going to see Chimaev for the first time in a long time in the United States. And that's just some of the cards that we've seen. What an amazing summer we're having, man.
Speaker 1:I do believe so.
Speaker 2:What an amazing summer we're having as UFC fans. I think we're eating well these next couple months and I'm very excited for every single card that's coming up. And I just want to mention I know you promised some UFC drama and I've got that UFC drama right now. Let's talk about the light heavyweight division.
Speaker 1:There hasn't been a lot going on with that lately.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about that Ankaliev fight um who he's facing. We've been hearing a lot of rumors about august this and august that, and that they offered the fight to alex. This is all kind of speculation. This is all kind of like word of mouth. Nothing has been, just some of the stuff that's been out on the internet from what I'm understanding. So they asked Alex to take that fight, which is he's trying to take a little bit longer fight camp to prepare for that fight is from what I'm understanding.
Speaker 1:Which, in my opinion, is what he should have been doing with the first one, but yeah, which, in my opinion is warrant.
Speaker 2:he should have been doing with the first one, but yeah, which in my opinion is warranted though. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Given the massive favors he's done for the UFC. I mean, how many short notice fights. And you know he's never complained about it. So he denied the fight. But he didn't deny it. He just said let's postpone it for a later date so I could prepare for this fight properly which I think is reasonable, personally, but from what I understand, maybe they did not like that and they wanted some fight for international fight week or something like that yeah, I could see them trying to push a fight and pushing the fight.
Speaker 2:fight towards Yuri Prohaska, supposedly supposedly denied the fight in order to take his finals for his school tests.
Speaker 1:I could understand that. To be fair, he's been really working hard on that.
Speaker 2:He's been working hard on school man and he even showed I don't know why, but he even showed the list of his classes that he's taking the finals for.
Speaker 1:Well, probably because he doesn't want people saying bullshit. Yeah, I mean no, he's the real deal.
Speaker 2:He's actually going to school and getting a degree. Yeah, Very impressive. He denied that fight. Now let's come to some tweets that were released. A lot of back and forth between Alex and, or whatever, Alex's representatives, whatever it is. Okay.
Speaker 2:And Ankalayev's either him or his representative whatever, it is Okay. Now, from what I understand, there was a tweet that was released with Alex saying mysteriously so I can't believe the UFC is doing this Along the lines that he's done a lot of favors for the UFC and he expected respect and he feels disrespected by this and this and that. Okay.
Speaker 2:A couple hours later or right after it's gone gone, the tweet has disappeared. Right, people saying like what the hell? Like, I hope, I hope that poet on, because he even mentioned I forgot to mention this he even mentioned possible retirement okay possible retirement, like I'm not gonna do this forever and if I don't fight this then I'm done. So tweet is gone. People are like what the hell are we gonna lose poet on? Or we're gonna lose poet on people losing their minds the ufc probably losing their minds understandably fast forward.
Speaker 2:Another tweet is released from the same account, alex's account saying sorry everybody, we were hacked. Someone got into our account and hacked us, chel sen, and saying that I'm gonna lie, I've got hacked into the account, whatever the case may be yeah saying that it's hacked. That's not true and in fact I'm perfectly fine with my relationship with the ufc I mean, didn't alex release a video to that effect? He released a video, exactly, uh, basically correlating that okay, and further saying that he was hacked and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So it's not a true tweet and I think they kind of settled things from what I understand, you know, and I think maybe there's some background stuff. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not a true tweet, and I think they kind of settled things from what I understand, you know, and I think maybe there's some background stuff. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not.
Speaker 1:I mean to be fair a championship fighter slash, just defeat a championship fighter. I could see that being a prime target for someone who wanted to hack. Sure, if that's the case.
Speaker 2:Ankalive, you better apologize for hacking into Alex's account. I can't believe that you could do that. So we'll just see where the Maybe they settled it in the background. Maybe they're giving Alex a little bit more time to prepare for that fight. We'll just see where the maybe they settled it in the background. Maybe they're giving Alex a little bit more time to prepare for that fight We'll see, but I am in the belief that we'll see Alex versus Ankalayev at a later date. Tbd.
Speaker 1:Yeah, most likely. I mean, who else is he going to fight?
Speaker 2:He moves up to heavyweight.
Speaker 1:It's not exactly the best look to move up to heavyweight when you just lost to the championship of the lower weight. You would think, yeah, technically possible.
Speaker 2:You would think, but that's how he made it to the light heavyweight division, losing to Adesanya right after moving up in weight. I mean, if anybody could do it, it's Alex, I guess. If anybody has the chance of becoming a triple champion maybe it's him, maybe. And so that's some of the news that we've had surrounding that. I really hope that he was hacked, that he was hacked and that it's not true that he's unhappy with the UFC and that he's not thinking about retiring.
Speaker 1:Well, going off the video, which is a little easier to believe than a faceless tweet, I think it's pretty solid that that's the case.
Speaker 2:Or solid that he's going to keep fighting. So at least we have that. Yeah, and that's all the UFC news. We have some amazing bombs that were dropped and I want to take a moment to talk about outside of the UFC and talk about a major fight happening in the boxing world Canelo Alvarez versus Terrence Crawford.
Speaker 1:What promotion is that in?
Speaker 2:So about promotions? From what I'm reading, it's Dana White what Yep? His first ever major boxing promotion, just from what I'm reading, is going to be that Canelo versus Terrence Crawford fight one of the biggest fights that I could think of in boxing okay, it's just a mind-blowing fight, and also mind-blowing that Dana White's first uh forte uh venture into promoting boxing is going to be that fight.
Speaker 2:But anyway, that's just from what I'm reading. Uh, possible massive promotion for dana white uh moving into boxing. So we'll see if, um, from what I understand, they want to follow that formula of the best will fight the best kind of how the ufc is. That should be amazing. Uh, so we'll go ahead and move away from the fight talk and we'll move to some of those Juicy Company secrets. Hopefully they don't get mad at us, but I don't know, maybe if it's a KFC one they'll send us some freak chicken. To hell with them.
Speaker 2:To like not say anything their herbs and spices.
Speaker 1:It'd be a little too late.
Speaker 2:Let's get on with the redhead.
Speaker 1:Today, our subject is what's a company secret you can share now that you don't work there anymore? And this is in productivity cafe subreddit and it's a question that's been asked multiple times, but this specific one that we're referring to is done by WonderfulEconomy762. That said, here is our first one that I will jump in on by due readings. 3778. Health insurance companies will deliberately and intermittently slow down or completely stop claims processing to hang on to their money longer. They also have days where they reject en masse across the board because it allows them to not pay out for an additional 30 days or maybe never pay if the claim is not resubmitted.
Speaker 2:True stories you know what? Sadly that is not all that surprising no, I mean it's pretty well.
Speaker 1:I mean, to anyone who's even casually looked into it, that that aspect of health care, health insurance, is fairly widely known, unfortunately, but it's still crazy to to hear everything about it, you know and to hear like all the shit, the very shady stuff you know in the insurance, kind of you kind of see that I don't know if they really think of people as humans.
Speaker 2:you know, sometimes you know sick people that need help, do they really think about that? Do they really do they have any families that they can even think about? Like what if they were in that situation? But you know, corporations are going to do what they do and it kind of seems sad. Yep, I mean we got that whole Luigi thing, the UnitedHealthcare, right.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you mention that, because one of the comments under that was a gif. Oh really Luigi, intensifying I mean damn dude.
Speaker 2:I mean I don't condone, you know, hurting other humans, but I mean a lot of people seem to be understanding that plight of how it's just too shady it's. Uh, you know, I think people want transparency for something.
Speaker 1:That is why widely required by law I mean health insurance isn't necessarily. But uh, this goes for other insurance companies because, as Anemic Hale says, it's not just health insurance, it's all insurance. The fact that insurance is required by law in several aspects of life and the things that the insurance companies do and are allowed to do is disgusting because, oh yeah, and the things that the insurance companies do and are allowed to do is disgusting because, exactly, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:I've always hated insurance, of course because, because of the fact that they they do their best not to pay, because they just want you to pay your premiums, not have any problems. They use your premiums to invest in other things and just keep making money.
Speaker 2:Hand over, fist off the money you pay and then they'll do their damnedest not to pay a single red cent or the bare freaking minimum in in the event that they do need to pay out I mean, uh, that you mentioned that, one of the trippy things that I I often think about, which is a strange thought, but I think about, like one of the necessary things by law, necessary insurances that we have to have. A great example, car insurance. I mean, if you think about it, what if all car insurance companies tomorrow decide that they're going to triple their prices? You know, and they can all do that, because you need car insurance, you need it Pretty much, and it's like damn dude, they really have us by the balls.
Speaker 1:They really do.
Speaker 2:All right, harley, and one of my secrets is a little upsetting as well. It's my pariah dog. 119, he says, or they say. The vehicle modification shop at Chillicothe Correctional Institution in Ohio dumps waste coolant from the machine shop into a storm drain. That empties directly into the Scotio River. Because chemical disposal tank is a 55 gallon drum in the paint shop and that's much too small. They can't throw me into solitary confinement for complaining anymore. Edit. This happens about once a year when the mechanic's coolant reservoirs are emptied and the coolant is replaced.
Speaker 3:It's not on the schedule, it's one of those things that you do when work is slow.
Speaker 2:He goes on to say Each machine holds 15 to 20 gallons and usually you just add more and it evaporates. But eventually it gets nasty and needs to be replaced. It's supposed to go into a waste hole that's to be disposed safely, which is what every non-government machine shop does. Being able to prove this being done would require knowing when they're going to do this, and that's the decision is made in the spur of the moment. Hey, work is slow, let's have a clean-up day. There aren't any phones in the machine shop either. Edit 2. A container to store the waste properly costs $200. Why waste taxpayer money when you could just poison the taxpayer instead?
Speaker 1:I think it would be utterly shocking to most people how many institutions, companies and individuals do this sort of thing sort of thing not any one of them on a daily basis, but accumulatively. This happens multiple times a day all across the country in big ways, and talk about upsetting, huh it's.
Speaker 1:It's upsetting. I mean there are some things that I understand. Individuals like say they have a little cooler, like a tiny window AC unit, that they don't want to pay the $30 to $90 fee to make it for the disposal of the gas I can't remember the name of the gas and just breaking it so that it hisses out. I can understand it. I can't condone it. But I can understand it, but when it's an institution. Yes. Especially one that's funded by taxpayers.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Why? Why would they not?
Speaker 2:And one that's going into a major water source. Uh-huh, it's insane and devastating to not just humans but to the ecosystem as well, but it could definitely get humans very sick.
Speaker 1:I mean people, people gonna get in that water and well, and then there's all the, the plants and the wildlife that are in that and people eat the plants and wildlife that are in that water.
Speaker 2:So and then if you get in that water you come out all mutated and shit like out, that's third arm and in that respect. But like four eyes. You just have like a pair of glasses on. Uh, long story short dude. That's crazy, bro, and uh, I definitely can't condone that. Let's dispose of things safely, because why not?
Speaker 2:you know you're trying to save a couple of bucks, but why not save people, bro? Why not save everything like? That's just the way I see it, and I think it's a huge mistake to uh allow them to continue this. A lot like the comments are saying they're all in all caps saying what the yeah? Contact your local news organizations.
Speaker 1:Contact the freaking epa well, yeah, because they'll put a monitor downstream of them and if it flags for that sort of thing, they'll know where to start looking.
Speaker 2:And PariahDog actually goes on to comment after that and he says they don't let news cameras into prisons unless they know beforehand exactly what's going to be filmed. In parentheses, I mean, I have to say that that is, unfortunately, entirely understandable because a prison does not want to have certain things seen by news cameras. Of course.
Speaker 1:They want to alter their or put their best foot forward. If you will Just like, if a company knows OSHA or upper management is coming through, oh yeah, just like if a company knows OSHA or upper management's coming through. You spend an extra couple hours cleaning and tidying things up. It's annoying that they can't just keep it up.
Speaker 2:That's insane dude.
Speaker 1:I mean, I worked in a coal mine for a while and they would sometimes know when an MSHA inspector was coming, but a lot of times an MSHA inspector just shows up.
Speaker 2:Random.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they will absolutely nail you to the freaking wall. My bad dude. And I mean, even when they do know, they only know, like maybe a day in advance, that I at least that I was known, that I was notified. If you will, I mean it's, it's just crazy to me the fact that inspectors, especially inspectors, have to give notice at all, because if they're really going to inspect, they need to see right what is actually going?
Speaker 2:on what they're trying to hide and this happens in restaurants.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, a lot, a lot, way, way more than anyone would be comfortable with yes and uh, I actually have a funny story about restaurants.
Speaker 2:I used to work for a commercial refrigeration wait funny or disgusting, a little bit of both, okay basically, we went out to a service call at some restaurant and it was an asian restaurant.
Speaker 2:I don't remember what was the name, I won't even mention it, but it was a small restaurant like a mom and pop, and in the as soon as we opened the back door, they let us in to look at the unit. All I see on the floor is a lady crisscross applesauce on the floor, ingredients on the floor, cooking eggs on a burner on the floor and I'm talking dirty floor, black marks and shit.
Speaker 2:Uh and uh. That honestly gave me a different perspective on restaurants yeah and some of the things I saw in general gave me a different perspective on restaurants. I mean, dude like, clean like, clean that up, man Like, why are you cooking eggs on the?
Speaker 1:floor. It's absurd, actually, that kind of rolls right into the one that I was going to read next.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:And it comes from New Day's Breath. And they say when it comes to delis, I worked in a few supermarkets. Even if the company has strict policies, rest assured that there's always a few employees not following the food safety rules. Cross-contamination is a constantly broken rule. I have seen people open meats with box cutters they keep in their pockets that they use for an indefinite amount of time Weeks, Months. They will drop entire hams on the ground and quickly pick them up, hoping no one notices.
Speaker 2:Those are not clean floors Five second rule.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some won't even change their gloves. For hours They'll be in the back throwing garbage out or having a smoke, or they'll clean the deli using nasty broomsticks and mop handles and jump right back on the line and cut your cold cuts for you damn man.
Speaker 2:See, that's the kind of stuff that I'm afraid of uh-huh and people wonder why listeria breakout outbreaks are are.
Speaker 1:I think and and similar, you know like. If guidelines were actually followed, like all the way from when the animal is being grown, all the way to when the customer is receiving it, right, those outbreaks would be significantly less. We'd be healthier. We would be a lot healthier.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I mean dude, it's just kind of one of those things that it's always in the back of my mind personally, but I try to just like because you're not gonna. If you think about it all the time, you're never gonna be able to live a normal life, you know, yeah, and which is kind of some of the things that I think about. I kind of get anxiety for those kind of things, understandably, uh, but uncontrollable, it seems, unless you're cooking your food at home at all times, and even then, even then you have to grow your own food and even, yeah, you have to grow your own food, because if you get the produce like, you don't know what they're doing with that produce you know if you're going to the deli.
Speaker 2:Obviously you don't know what what they're doing with their hands and uh, I mean it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not something that management and all that are not aware of. A lot of them are aware of it and like, uh, outrageous caramel 33 says as a deli manager, unfortunately this is big facts. It sucks having to constantly reprimand employees who are committed to being unsanitary. I mean that's unfortunately. One of the aspects of this is delis especially and many other jobs similar, like food service and prep and all that the people in those jobs are getting paid terribly low amounts. Right.
Speaker 1:And when you're getting paid barely above minimum wage, if not minimum wage, you do not give a shit. If this is the only job you could find, that meant you didn't have to stand outside all day to do it and maybe you happened to get benefits. You're going to be doing that and it's not because you like it. It's not because you're committed to safety or cleanliness. It's because you just wanted the freaking paycheck. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, especially because half of them or more are just part-time employees because the company doesn't want to pay them and give them full benefits. That's crazy, bro A couple hundred part-time employees aren't going to give a singular gosh darn toot about making sure they change their gloves.
Speaker 2:If you're listening to this, I hope we're not giving you massive anxiety for delis right now, but I will say, you know that's a great point. What's to stop, steve let's just put that name on there for dropping the ham and picking it back up. Sorry, any Steves who actually are cleanliness conscious.
Speaker 2:You're all great. Steves Point is I mean, what's to stop him? I mean, like you said, like he's probably or they're probably not caring about, like they're not getting paid. Well, yeah, you know, they're just, this is just another job and safety is kind of in the farthest depths of their mind at the moment, you know dropping that piece of ham, picking it back up and giving it to someone. I don't care, I'm not the one eating it. I'm not the one eating it, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and very concerning Harley. And damn it, that is one of my biggest fears coming true.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I mean you have to have either people who are paid or incentivized to care paid or incentivized to care or you need to have a supervisor who's constantly hovering and and saying do this, do that? I mean, that's just the way it is, and corporations do not want to pay enough to do that, so and they cover their backsides by saying, well, we have the guidelines, we have the policy, this is what they're supposed to do yes but if they're not incentivizing or enforcing, then frankly those policies are just lip service, you know and the lip service is how they wash their hands of it, much like the employees should be doing prior to touching the meats.
Speaker 2:Man, and I'll go ahead and move forward with mine. I want to give the listeners a trigger warning. I'm giving it early this time. You've been warned. You want to skip ahead on this part of the story. But, uh, this person, uh, sam. I am 871, he said, or they said. I worked for a major hotel chain in housekeeping for over 10 years. The number of suicides and people who die naturally in their rooms is a lot higher than you think I worked, it's true I worked at a huge convention hotel with over a thousand rooms.
Speaker 2:That sounds massive.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of rooms.
Speaker 2:And it happened quite often. Unless it was pretty gnarly mess, it would just get cleaned up like normal and the next guest had no idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they already have that room booked out, so they just gotta clean it quickly and move on.
Speaker 2:And one of the comments. Apologies, I'm gonna read it out for you guys, by Kariast2319. At one of the hotels I worked at, a woman killed herself by drinking antifreeze. Her body was blue blood, vomit and feces everywhere. My friend who was in maintenance saw it and couldn't sleep that night, or any night, since Working at hotels will change you.
Speaker 1:It's unfortunately true. I've read similar stories and accounts of housekeeping, management and service personnel having to deal with this, and it is sadly common that people will think to do that. When they're well some people actually they will book a hotel specifically to go and commit suicide. It's it's an unfortunate aspect that people genuinely do that because they'll know that they know their body's going to be seen to after death. They they won't be traumatizing a family member or you know. There's a whole laundry list of reasons why they do it. But it is exceedingly rough on the hotel crew. Oh man Staff, yeah, the staffing at the hotel, Jeez dude.
Speaker 2:I mean talking about things that will change you. Seeing that kind of thing is, you know, most definitely very traumatizing, right. I will add to that, if you are a witness to trauma or anything, a witness to a traumatic event like that, seek some help, seek someone to talk to. It's always good to kind of let somebody know what you saw and not keep all those feelings you know internal, because that's the kind of stuff that, like, like this person wasn't able to sleep. Obviously they're gonna have a hard time when they when they see what they saw absolutely.
Speaker 1:And I mean it kind of folds into like, if you become an emergency service, uh ems oh man you, you expect these things to happen.
Speaker 2:If you just got hired on to gather sheets and then go wash them in the washer and dryer, you did not go into that expecting to find things like that wow like that's very far outside of the basic job description I didn't sign up for this and I don't get paid enough for this exactly uh, a quick shout out to first responders. Quick shout out to uh emts that that that on a day-to-day basis they deal with that kind of stuff. Yeah and uh they, they should be commended every day, I think.
Speaker 1:In my opinion, Honestly, being a housekeeper in a hotel has got to be incredibly traumatizing, because I've read horror stories from housekeepers. Absolutely. So many different horrible things that they find and come across. Maybe an idea for another episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, housekeeping encounters, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Be on the lookout for that one. That's a trigger warning. No, that's a trigger warning.
Speaker 2:I will say, yes, crazy stuff out there. Very unfortunate that these individuals have to witness that kind of thing yeah moving on from trauma, let's uh hear from amethyst star nine.
Speaker 1:Recycling is a lie. I won't say no one ever recycles anything anywhere. I'm just saying that when you take the time to put a plastic bottle in the blue bin or whatever, all you're doing is making yourself feel a little better. It's ending up right next to all that paper trash you walked by in the end. And to corroborate that, the next commenter underneath that Copywriter says NPR did a big expose on this in 2020, and it barely made a blip on the radar. And they link to it. And it's pretty astounding the amount of plastics that people think they're recycling that just go straight to the landfill.
Speaker 2:Damn dude, you think you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 1:Or they're sometimes sold to another country to just dispose of there, you know. So they can pretend that they're going to get recycled over there, but really they're just getting dumped into another landfill or even just into the ocean. Damn bro.
Speaker 2:And very unfortunate for the ecosystem. Man, uh, you think you're doing a good deed and it's really not happening.
Speaker 1:Very unfortunate man yeah, unfortunately that this conversation could be a whole episode in and of itself, so let's, let's hear your next one my next one is another very unfortunate one.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna break people's hearts with this one. Oh no, by dat manger. He said, and I quote chucky cheese isn't a real mouse, it was me.
Speaker 1:Oh my god if you lived, lived in.
Speaker 2:Brandon Florida, from 07 to 09.
Speaker 1:I was expecting so much worse.
Speaker 2:I wasn't even going to mention a trigger warning. So if you thought Chuck E Cheese was a real mouse, I thought he was always designed as a rat.
Speaker 1:I didn't think he was a mouse same difference to me, man.
Speaker 2:Neither one I want in my house and neither one I want on my pizza very true a short one, but I thought that was hilarious, dude, yeah it is. It is pretty great um, so I'll just move on to the actual story, the actual one I wanted to read.
Speaker 2:I worked in a call center before so I could kind of relate to this. It's by Andre Gighor, interesting name Inbound call center. There was no such thing as a silent hold. You're on mute. We could still hear you, but this isn't done maliciously so we can listen in. We had targets for hold time and putting you on mute instead of the hold on call button and that would bring the average down if they press that hold button. Sometimes we were asking a colleague for input, sometimes we were avoiding an awkward silence while the computer took forever to load. I did it a lot because I can fix your issue or account easier when you're not yapping in my ear with stupid questions yeah and uh.
Speaker 1:To touch on that in other situations. That is similar to like if you're going through the drive-through somewhere and they ask you to just pull up, that's because they want their time. There's like some sort of timing metric that they're gauged on for how quickly they keep the line flowing. So if they can pawn you off because your order is going to take a minute and 30 seconds instead of a minute and 10 seconds, instead of a minute and 10 seconds, they'll pawn you off to the parking spot and keep the line moving, just so they can artificially keep their metrics high. And there's so many instances of that across so many different companies and disciplines, right, that they do things like that just to artificially inflate their metrics.
Speaker 2:Which is funny, harley, that you mention that, because I used to work, kind of like I mentioned earlier, at a call center. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And towards the end of one of my colleagues' tenure at the company, let's just say he would take a couple desk swigs Ah, getting very loose with it, right, desk swigs. Yeah, uh, getting very loose with it, right. And uh, this was kind of like an uptight uh call center where you couldn't really mess around and you definitely couldn't mess around on the phone, and just how she was saying like we don't really put them on hold or whatever, because they don't want us to really put it on hold. Right, put them on mute. But he also put an individual on speakerphone while they were like talking smack to him and he let the whole office just hear yeah and we're on the phone, like looking at him, like turn it off, turn it yeah, and he's walking around, bro.
Speaker 2:He was walking around like laughing, like the guys on the line, like I can't believe you can't get this fixed. You, you guys, are pieces of trash yeah yeah. Putting it on them, putting it on speaker, and finally the manager came in. Hey, what's going on? Turn that off, put it on mute, mm-hmm, or take it off speaker. You know yeah yeah. And that guy.
Speaker 1:that guy was a very interesting character, I will say I will have to say in that regard, call center employees are subjected to an immense, an immense amount of abuse, like people are the only reason people are calling the call centers because they have a problem they're already frustrated already mad and a lot of people can't control their anger or regulate themselves to be polite in the moment, especially to a faceless person.
Speaker 1:Exactly, people are even more polite if they have a problem. They're more likely to be polite. I should say to someone face-to-face Sure Because they can see them as a person, as a human, but on the phone. No, when they're just facing their frustration and they've been wallowing in it for a while and they've already been put on hold or they went through the the 20 to 30 minutes to get to the call center. Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:It's unfortunate aspect of call centers anyway, just wanted to add that quick little tidbit. Uh, it's very hard being a call center person.
Speaker 1:It is I've never done it well. I mean, I sort of did it, but that was just because I was put on light duty at a job and so I had to handle phone calls for the job, but I wasn't like really call center for problems I should have just answered the phone like hello, please don't yell at me, please I'm here to fix the problem, not be the problem. Let's do this to me anyway.
Speaker 1:So for our last one, it's kind of a long one and it's kind of a deep subject, but I think it's an information that more people need to be aware of. Awesome, by outrageous luck. Nine, nine, nine, nine all jewelry and watches are perversely marked up. Here it goes a one carat round diamond retailing for ten thousand at the store is purchased wholesale at one thousand. Shop around and purchase pre-owned jewelry. Remove the stone and purchase a new economical setting. Blue, nile or Costco has the same cut color clarity. Like the high-end stores Shop around a lot Watches.
Speaker 1:Rolex costs less than $500 to make the material is hyped up stainless steel and recycled stones and traded in material, steel and recycled stones and traded in material. The submariner that now retails 11 000 costs that much, like the 500 that to make. It's not unique, it's mass produced and the crystal bezel always gets scratched. Don't hit the case because it will dent and disrupt the movement. Don't believe the story from the salespeople. They were trained to be clients like. We don't know how many are made. We don't know how the serial numbers are assigned. We have no idea how many Daytonas exist.
Speaker 1:Your watch has a born date. Your watch will increase in value. Cartier watches, beautifully designed, same as Rolex. To produce Uses cheap ETA movement costs $18. Any gold jewelry purchased will only get gold value when traded in. So if you purchase a designer necklace for $15,000, you're only getting gold weight if you sell it and it depends on the gold. If 14 karat, 18 karat or 24 karat Jewelry is marked up high because execs have to justify their bloated salaries, overhead insurance and sales commissions for their salespeople, you're better off investing your money in the S&P 500, real estate or a certificate in your industry.
Speaker 2:Exactly, real estate is a really big investment. S&p 500 is a great investment.
Speaker 1:S&P 500 is a little more reachable for the average person because you don't have to have a set amount of credit or a set income in order to get to it. But yeah, there are much more realistic investments than watches and jewelry.
Speaker 2:Yes, I mean if you're buying a Rolex for it to go up in value, I mean you're taking a big gamble.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you want a Rolex because it's a rolex, that's one thing. If you want a rolex because you think it's value, inherently valuable in and of itself, unfortunately you're wrong in most cases.
Speaker 2:There are a few yeah rolexes that are being sold on auction for a ridiculous amount but for the most part, yeah, that's a lot of the game that these industries play on the consumer. I mean, just look at, like this, the car sells and look at those bloated prices. I mean, yeah, back a couple years back when I was trying to get a truck, how difficult it was for me to get a truck because of these crazy massive bloated prices, yeah, and which are like what? Like they're trying to add more to the MSRP and like they're saying, you know, pay their salaries and all that.
Speaker 2:So I mean you always have to go into those places not thinking that they have the consumers in mind for that they they want their money and those are the things they don't have. That your best interest in mind absolutely not.
Speaker 2:They want their bottom dollar, and the more they can get out of you, the better their lives are going to be right, exactly, and a quick tip that I would give to anybody buying something like in this manner like jewelry, uh, cars, where there's like dealerships and stuff like that, where they try to make it their deal try to come in with that mindset that this is not their deal, this is your deal. You're the one putting the money. Do your research and be very, very uh meticulous with that research, because the research could save you.
Speaker 2:I for one got my truck below MSRP, which, if anybody listening, that's a very rare thing nowadays it's a difficult thing to accomplish. Yes, and that's because I was a very tenacious negotiator and I was not going to take less than that as my deal. Yeah, and I was not going to take less than that as my deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that can be applied to many things, but yeah, especially retail items. Yeah. And if it's any kind of negotiation, that first number they give you is always always several percentile higher than their actual amount that they will sell it for exactly.
Speaker 1:To get back to the, the comments in the subject uh, general primary 5675 says as a nephew of a high end sorry, as the nephew of a very high-end jeweler, this is very true. Buy lab diamonds. It's the same f***ing shit. Best analogy I heard is this Ice made outside versus ice made in the freezer is still ice and I mean it's true. I've found out about how diamonds are nowhere near as rare as people are made to believe. They are actually one of the most common so-called precious gems on the planet. They're so common that there are industrial diamonds for filing and grinding and such. It's ridiculous how many diamonds there are are and the price that people are asked to pay for them is absolutely absurd and I've been hearing, um, it's 2025.
Speaker 2:I've been hearing some kind of rumors that, uh, diamonds are going to be less than gold uh coming up. So I don't know how soon that is or what, how true that is, but that's a very interesting fact. Nowadays, uh, but like you were saying about that, lab grown diamonds are a thing now, a very interesting time that we're in when it comes to the jewelry stuff, I mean uh, what you just said is corroborated here by user h one.
Speaker 1:Lab diamonds have taken hold and high-end diamond prices are collapsing in the last couple of years after years of being flat there's no reason for that to stop. The only reason why they're hell they're, uh well, even considered for a wedding ring and that they're so high is because of the diamond cartels the inflation inflation of that and all that background.
Speaker 1:It's literally a couple companies that held a monopoly and created the whole mystique of diamonds out of nothing and then proceeded to. They stockpile an obscene number of diamonds, an obscene number of diamonds, an obscene number of diamonds, and that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I mean, uh, just moral of the story is do your research. I mean, try to get as familiarized as you can uh with. I mean, it's kind of hard when you're not getting that proper training, but at least if you're gonna make a large purchase, um it it's. I think it's very important to do your research, know what you're there to buy, think about what you're there to buy and do some confirming of prices, if you can basically, if you're on a budget and the value of the dollar means something to you, like you don't have a ridiculously high income, so you are worried about how much money you have in your bank account.
Speaker 1:It pays to take the extra time to research these things and figure out how you can maximize your dollar.
Speaker 2:Exactly Harley, and I think we'll leave it on that note. It's a great tip for people making purchases.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Another great tip for the listener is don't forget to like and subscribe. We sincerely appreciate it Sincerely, sincerely appreciate it. We hope you guys enjoyed it. And don't forget to keep those gloves up. You're going to need them if you're going to fight off these shady people with those crazy prices you will alright, have a good one y'all catch you in the next one.
