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UFC 316 delivered non-stop action from the opening bell to the final submission. What began with a spectacular 28-second knockout in the early prelims crescendoed through an evening of highlight-reel finishes, culminating in Marab Dvalishvili's masterful championship defense against Sean O'Malley.
Kayla Harrison's domination of Juliana Pena stands as one of the night's most impressive performances. The two-time Olympic gold medalist, now UFC bantamweight champion, locked in a devastating Kimura with mere seconds left in the second round after controlling the entirety of the fight. Her victory sets up a potential super-fight with Amanda Nunez, who appears ready to emerge from retirement for one final challenge. Meanwhile, the women's division continues its evolution with another potential super-fight between Weili Zhang and Valentina Shevchenko on the horizon.
Kevin Holland's successful application of what he called a "Dark Man choke" against Vicente Luque showcased his evolution as a fighter, particularly at 170 pounds where he's found significantly more success than at middleweight. His post-fight commitment to staying in the welterweight division and callout of Colby Covington signals exciting matchups ahead.
The evening's most surprising storyline came from Patchy Mix's UFC debut against Mario Bautista. The former Bellator champion appeared uncharacteristically flat-footed and showed minimal head movement throughout the contest, leading to speculation about potential injuries or behind-the-scenes issues affecting his performance.
Beyond our comprehensive fight analysis, we dive into several deeply personal Reddit confessions that touch on relationship struggles, social pressure, and mental health challenges. These raw, unfiltered stories provide a powerful counterpoint to the physical battles in the octagon, reminding us that internal struggles often require just as much courage to face.
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Welcome back to Peak Points. Today we are going to be discussing the UFC Fight Card 316. Most of those fights were pretty spectacular, yes sir. And then we're going to have some deep and possibly triggering confessions later on and, as usual, you'll be able to just scroll on down to the chapter that we start the Reddit on and we'll go from there. All righty, alan, let's get into the Octagon.
Alan:Yes, sir.
Harley:What a very exciting card. I just want to say, man, it was surprisingly nice From start to finish.
Alan:Yeah, from start to finish. Very surprising we have that amazing knockout right at the early prelims, 28 seconds into the first round, and that was a Jekka versus Jusang Yu. What a nasty left hook.
Harley:And from the back foot while he was backing up On his back foot. That was pretty great.
Alan:It gave me some glimpses of Poiton with that left hook. I don't know, maybe he watches that tape or something, and it didn't even look like he loaded up the shot. No.
Harley:It kind of looked like just a I'm trying to tap you to make you respect what I'm doing. Absolutely Not just charge at me sort of thing, but it connected just perfectly.
Alan:Right on the button, as Joe Rogan likes to say. And then we got in the regular prelims card. We have that Chaos Williams versus Andreas Gustafsson. That was a wild fight. Amazing.
Harley:I don't think I've ever seen anyone go quite that hard on somebody right from the get-go well, I suppose I have a couple times. But that was crazy how you just just kept mobbing him, just just kept staying on top and pushing him around chaos did not handle the chaos very well at all. He was very unprepared for that style of fight.
Alan:I mean great performance by Gustafsson. He pulled out that unanimous win.
Harley:Also, to be fair, that chaos did hold out through all three rounds of that which is impressive in and of itself.
Alan:Absolutely.
Harley:Because a lot of fighters wouldn't have been able to hold up to that level of wrestling and just constantly being dogged on. So I mean, while he didn't get a chance to shine in his offense or even truly in his defense, he still held out, which is impressive in its own right.
Alan:And that's a key word, for I think this fight card in general impressive. Most performances on this card were very impressive If you're a fan of mixed martial arts and even if you're a fan of jiu-jitsu. Because of those submissions that we've seen in the main card.
Harley:Some surprising submissions, very surprising.
Alan:So we'll move forward. We got that heavyweight bout Sergei Spivak versus Waldo Cortez Acosta, and Acosta takes it by unanimous decision.
Harley:And that one was kind of a surprise too, because right out the gate it really looked like Spivak had the edge. I mean, he was really pushing Acosta around and it took Acosta a minute to really get the hang of the fight and start pushing back.
Alan:Absolutely. To me it did look like there's a reason why Spivak is the favorite in this one, but just goes to show you you make those proper adjustments and stuff like that and you make it happen Great fight acosta really showed why he has the odds that he has and why he I shouldn't say why, but it really showcased his experience within fighting to be able to be put on the back foot for a second, but to come back and analyze and pull out the win absolutely.
Alan:And we had another very, very impressive finish by azuma on uh brendan, uh brentson ribiero. What a great knockout dude. I mean in the first round yeah minus 700 for him, though it seems like a lot of people knew that was going to happen.
Harley:Yeah, I'd say it wasn't too much of a surprise via the odds, but having no prior experience with either fighter like I did, it was still pretty surprising to have a first round knockout absolutely to. I mean, and it wasn't even like a really a surprise knockout, I mean, it wasn't exactly, uh, there wasn't exactly a lot of time to set it up or anything, but he definitely was showcasing a lot of skill leading to that.
Alan:Oh yeah, absolutely. And pulls out that nasty knockout. And then we had another finish in the prelims. Amazing, I'm telling you, it's finish night. And then we had Bruno Silva versus Joshua Vann. What a freaking amazing performance by Joshua Vann, who showed out fireworks in his hands lighting up Bruno Silva. I mean a lot of the time he was catching him with that right. It was like a straight right that he kept catching him with.
Harley:Yeah, he was really able to bypass his defense quite well.
Alan:Rocking him and ultimately getting that finish. Bruno Silva he was a dog for most of the fight. He was, I mean, losing at 4-0-1 in the third round Pretty unfortunate. But Joshua Vann I think it's time that we start putting some respect on his name.
Harley:Especially at his age. He's got a lot of growth ahead of him, theoretically A lot of time.
Alan:So, I think he could got a lot of growth ahead of him theoretically a lot of times.
Harley:So I think he could. He could be a real big star in a couple years absolutely and a possible contender in the flyweight division.
Alan:And then we move on to that main card man oh man. This was very, very exciting, and not to mention, almost every kevin holland fight is very exciting. He's a very exciting fighter, but we had two finnish artists going against each other, with vicente luque versus kevin holland and kevin holland pulling off that darsh choke on him was amazing.
Harley:That was. It was good to see, because he he doesn't seem to win very often when he does the 185 no but he, I think he he really needs to stick to 170 yes because he sees a lot more success there.
Alan:He definitely does, it's uh he doesn't get pushed around as much no, and he handles himself very well, obviously against some pretty tough competition. And in this case he pulled out that very skilled and very quick Darce choke. It wasn't exactly a Darce choke, it was what he called it a dark man choke, which I guess he kind of put his little spin on it. He did, but the way he locked it in was very impressive. And, uh, I'll also mention some very good news at the end. Uh, for his interview at the end of that fight, he did say that he's at 170 to stay and even called out.
Alan:I don't know I I guess I missed that right at the end of the fight he did say yeah, um, he believes he's gonna stay at 170. I was Right at the end of the fight. He did say he believes he's going to stay at 170.
Harley:I was in the middle of cooking. I was just watching it on my phone, that's the way to do it. I had to step away a few times during interviews, so there was a few that I missed.
Alan:Cooking just like how Kevin Holland cooked in this one dude. Oh my God, dude, I can't get over what a great performance he did against Vicente Luque, who I don't believe has ever been choked out like that before, so that makes it ten times more impressive. Yeah, it looked great. He called out Colby Covington, another great contender in the Walter Waite division, indeed, so I am very excited to see that, if that happens, For sure.
Harley:Then that next fight. That one was good and disappointing at the same time.
Alan:It was good but very bad. Yep, I will say I'm sorry that I hyped up Patchy Mix in this one. He just did not look like Bellator's champion Patchy Mix. To me he looked completely different. I will give Mario Bautista his flowers. He never looked as good. He looked great. Whether it was against this competition or not, he looked amazing.
Harley:I mean, he definitely took plenty of damage, but he just kept coming right into it.
Alan:Coming right into it, a very impressive striking from Mario Bautista. Yeah, I know I did say that Apache Mix, which I mean he is still great but just did not have a great showcase, did not have a great debut. I was very concerned and also this kind of ties into some of the other podcasts I listened to which also reacted to Patchy Mix in saying that he looked very flat footed the entire fight.
Harley:Oh my God, from start to finish he had, like he barely had any footwork at all.
Alan:No footwork.
Harley:And no bobbing and weaving.
Alan:No, head movement is another thing.
Harley:Yeah, it was. I mean crazy iron chin.
Alan:Oh yeah.
Harley:But and body.
Alan:Oh my God Dude he was eating, he got hit, so hard in the body so many times. Dude everywhere.
Harley:But it was just crazy to see so little movement from a fighter, especially someone who is at that level. Yeah. It was odd. I wonder if maybe there was some behind-the-scenes stuff going on.
Alan:And that's the main reason why I was going to bring up this point is along with a lot of other stipulations. I myself feel that he may have had an injury of some sort, but one can only speculate until the word from his camp actually comes out that he was injured, and maybe that's the case.
Alan:However, the odds were not in his favor, even though he was the favorite for this one. Mario batista, with that plus 150, wins it and wins it, uh, decidingly so. So it was pretty great, very exciting. I mean. That was. That was a a great show by mario batista, and I think that he is very much becoming a contender in the bantamweight division. It was. It was uh. After that we had that middleweight bout, kelvin gastelum versus joe pifer. What a freaking dog fight. I mean it was. How tough is gastelum?
Harley:what the size discrepancy was. Oh yeah, was crazy yes, absolutely and he? He wasn't. He wasn't letting himself get pushed around too much. He wasn't letting himself get pushed around too much. It was just a good usage of his reach on Pfeiffer's part to keep him at range and just constantly peck away at him, absolutely, but the fact that Kelvin was able to handle it was impressive.
Alan:Yes.
Alan:I'd say he just needs to get some practice in dealing with someone who has that much reach advantage on him which I believe he has before kelvin gastelum, recent hall of fame inductee for that uh, amazing fight him versus adesanya, a absolute ufc classic war one where both fighters were ready to die for it, and in this case, he got dropped a couple times in the first round, got back up quickly, very quickly, and recovered from it, joe pie, for, on the other hand, he won this. However, I think if he wasn't just trying to throw haymakers after he dropped them, he got very excited and he was like okay, I'm just gonna throw haymakers, yeah, and I think that was kind of what I.
Alan:A little bit of a mistake on his part, but he still ended up winning.
Harley:So very very great performance by joe peiffer not not necessarily a uh, a strategy that would work every time, yeah, but uh did work out.
Alan:This time it did work out this time and we actually got to see this fight. Uh, I know that this is a rescheduling from that Mexico card. They were supposed to fight in Mexico and Joe Pfeiffer ended up getting very sick and saying that he's never going to Mexico ever again. So great performance by Joe Pfeiffer, with a great win on a very great fighter, absolutely. And then we had that amazing, that amazing fight between Juliana Pena and Kayla Harrison for that women's bantamweight title. Kayla, what a performance.
Harley:Scary woman right there.
Alan:What a performance. I just right there. What a performance. I just cannot give her her flowers enough Against Juliana Pena, who's been in nothing but dogfights, who's fought nothing but the best, and Kayla's done what she set out to do. And I just want to say she's on one more mission. I just want to say she's on one more mission and she's on a mission to face the greatest female fighter of all time, amanda Nunez.
Harley:Yep Coaxing her to come back from retirement Sounds like Nunez is totally on board too.
Alan:And it sounds like she's on board for one more war. And I just want to say the women's bantamweight division is looking amazing right now. Not to gloss over that fight. But we also have another super fight in the making. It's a possibility. It's Weili Zhang versus Valentina Shevchenko, so that should be pretty interesting from both sides.
Harley:Have you heard any more like officially on that?
Alan:not yet, but I'm I am hoping that either both of those fights are to happen this year or at the very least, uh, in the beginning of 2026. What it would be amazing to see amanda nunez versus kayla harrison and to see whaley jang Zhang versus Shevchenko. So both possibilities that we can see at this year. So that's very exciting. Yeah, very exciting.
Harley:I do have to say that it was a little surprising how quickly that specific arm hold. I don't know. I don't remember if anyone named it a specific hold.
Alan:Yeah, it was the Kimura.
Harley:Okay, but how quickly that resulted in a submission.
Alan:She locked that in.
Harley:But from what I did hear briefly, from someone sorry I can't remember who, From someone, Sorry I can't remember who, Anyway, they were saying that that specific hold is very insidious. If you don't tap quickly you are going to receive a lot of damage.
Alan:Dislocate your shoulder.
Harley:Crazy.
Alan:And Kayla Harrison cranked that so quickly. I mean she was dogging her the entire both rounds, Both rounds to Kayla. A quick little tidbit about that. A very interesting point was that she did lose a point. Julianna Pena did lose a point for those illegal up kicks.
Harley:Yeah, during the fight.
Alan:I mean, the ref was not f***ing around on that one.
Speaker 2:He was not, he was not messing around on that one.
Alan:I mean, it didn was not f***ing around on that one, he was not. He was not messing around on that one.
Harley:I mean it didn't. When I was first watching it it didn't look like she was trying to intentionally make contact and kick her chin up, just keep her away. It was mostly just it seemed like a bid to keep her away. But at that level, especially championship level, you need to be more in control of your body, and I understand that entirely. I suppose it could definitely be seen either way when you're watching a replay of it, but in the moment that's not how it seemed, you know.
Harley:Right, absolutely Just watching Peña's body language and everything like that that's what it seemed like it was. But yeah, I totally understand the point being taken away, unfortunately or fortunately however, you want to look at it it didn't actually really play.
Alan:Affect the fight at all. Yeah.
Harley:But yeah.
Alan:Kayla's like let me take that out of your hands real quick.
Harley:Let's make that a moot point.
Alan:She had her back most of like. I mean half that fight in the second round and locks in that quick Kimura in transition at 455, locking it in getting her to tap with those last five seconds.
Harley:Yeah, that was really surprising.
Alan:Wow.
Harley:How close it was to the end of the round, and then just bam, it was taken away and from the angle when you were first watching the fight, without the recap to show you from a different angle what was actually happening. It really didn't make any sense when it first happened. Interesting position yeah because, well, when you were first watching the fight, the angle was from a bad angle to actually see what's even going on on that side of the body.
Harley:So it was pretty shocking to see her tap. But yeah, I mean definite props to Kayla, she got it.
Alan:I mean two time gold medalist, olympian, two time PFL champion, I mean official bantamweight champion, kayla harrison is in a generational role right now and, uh, she's just uh, showing that the women's division is thriving. I I will say, and a lot of other people are saying right now, that I don't think she has that many in her, many fights in her, because of how depleting it is for her to get to that weight.
Harley:It is absolutely insane the fact that she can cut that much weight. Oh my word, dude, it's insane, it's insane.
Alan:And I mean everybody's curious about it, mean everybody's curious about it, I'm curious about it. I definitely want to know how she goes about cutting that weight. It must be, it must be just a grueling experience for her, and I mean just seeing her on the scale during that weight. She looks completely depleted of everything.
Alan:I haven't actually watched, but yeah, I would imagine, just look at a photo of her in the weigh-in for this fight in particular, she looked like death, but then again, look at what she rehydrates to. It's rather amazing, showcasing how amazing the human body can be. Um, whether that's her intention or not, uh, but it's very impressive all around. Uh, kayla harrison is becoming a legend in the women's uh, women's mixed martial arts. Frankly oh yeah.
Alan:And then we had that main fight of the night. Yes, sir, we had that bantamweight title on the line Marab DiValishvili versus Sean O'Malley. The rematch and I didn't have many high hopes for this one being exciting. I just thought it was going to be a steamroll by Marab and I will say props and flowers to sean o'malley. It wasn't, even though, even though marab got his first finish in the ufc, yeah I'm not.
Alan:I'm not adding any salt to the wound, man, I'm just saying great performance by mirab it was, I mean sean sean was looking good in his fight.
Harley:He was, he was looking good amazing takedown defense and and being able to get up out of takedowns too, which I don't. I can't specifically recall him doing that effectively the first round or the first fight. I should say not round, but yeah, I mean, it really shows just how much Marab I shouldn't say how much how big of a toolbox Marab has. He's not just a one-trick pony. He's really good at that one trick and he does rely on it a lot. Absolutely not just a one trick pony. He's really good at that one trick and he does rely on it a lot, absolutely. But like it was saying during a few of the uh intermission videos about marab and sean, you know it was talking about how marab had done some focus work on submitting and finishing insane during his fight camp this time and and that really showed.
Alan:Absolutely Pulling off that amazing north-south choke. I mean just all-around amazing performance by Murab. I can't get over how he got his first finish in I don't know how many years and he's on a legendary run right now. He's on a legendary run right now. I will say after the fight I do like that right away. We know who's possibly up next for that belt Corey Sanhagen.
Harley:Oh, I hadn't heard that yet.
Alan:He came up and said I'm ready whenever you are, and that's very exciting. I like the fact that they already have someone in mind for that. I will say, though if Murav ends up beating Corey, what next? What really is next for that division? Mainly because what does he do? Does he circle back and fight Pierre-Jan one more time, even though he bodied him decidedly? Right. You know, fight Cejudo again, even though he bodied him decidedly. Who else?
Harley:stands a chance against Marab right now. The way he's looking, I mean honestly, it's a very similar situation to what Islam was facing before he decided to jump weight. Sure. I mean when you've beaten effectively everyone in the division and a couple people you haven't are nowhere near even remotely in actual contention. You either got to just wait it out for new blood to work their way up, or you got to move on and continue while you still are in your prime right, absolutely.
Alan:Um, I don't think that's going to be the case for marab. I do think he's still going to be a long reigning champ of this division you don't think he's going to jump weight no, um, definitely not at the moment. He still has a san hagen, and then let's just see what happens after that.
Alan:Uh, I will say, though that does raise questions for sean, and questions for big questions for sean, because obviously this is two times already and, uh, he's not gonna get a third crack at that he said he should not get a third in a row.
Harley:That's for darn sure.
Alan:And so, as I was saying, it just really raises questions, just as his coach has said previously, is maybe moving up in weight class is the only answer for him right now?
Harley:Honestly, I think he could potentially do well if he bulked up yes because, honestly, he looks underpowered for his frame I mean, he's a tall guy too he is and he he just looks too scrawny to be that much of a threat. Not not that he isn't a threat within his, within that weight division. Don't get me wrong.
Alan:Very dangerous.
Harley:Because up until Merab he was doing amazing stuff throughout the entire division. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But honestly I think Sean could feasibly and effectively go up in weight with his frame. I don't think it would be too hard for him to put on muscle mass, effective muscle mass, not just water weight, you know.
Alan:I'm on that same boat. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, uh, he could definitely get to 145 and possibly do good in that division. Uh, I say, why not? I mean, obviously you're gonna have to start back up in the division and see who else he gets paired up with.
Harley:Just want to see y'all say all around, this card was absolutely amazing uh, it was really entertaining from start to finish because there's a lot of a lot of cards where you know it's three or four, sometimes even only one or two good fights in the card, but this time it was entertaining pretty much the entire way I mean just even show even starting in the early prelims there was a lot of highlights. I only actually loaded up and was watching the very. I got in about 40 seconds after the knockout by Yo.
Harley:So, I unfortunately missed that, but the fight with Kong and Silva, that was pretty good. So I unfortunately missed that, but the fight with Kong and Silva, that was pretty good.
Alan:even as an early prelim it was still a pretty good fight and I just want to say, before we stop talking about the fight, talk the mark that Murab has left, not only in the division, becoming a legend in the division. Becoming uh, I mean after this becoming a legend in the division I mean he's up there at the top ones to have ever been, but also leaving his mark on the ufc with the most takedowns absolutely of all time.
Alan:So marab is uh slowly becoming a legend of the sport and I think that a lot of people will start seeing that and gravitating towards that. I just want to see how the bantamweight division progresses from here after that Sanhagen fight and where we go from there.
Harley:Do you really see Sanhagen being a true contender? I should say what would your odds be? Let's put it that way what would your odds be for sandhagen? I?
Alan:guess the problem isn't the fighter, the problem isn't cory not being able to do it, the problem is marab being an absolute freak of nature. I mean, the machine takes after that moniker and is literally basically a machine, a cardio machine. And to prepare for a fighter like that, I think it is just a very grueling task, not just physically but mentally. I mean, you have to prepare yourself for a drag out war with this fighter right, but I'm just saying like what would your?
Alan:I would still say the cuff odds be, I would still say marab takes it.
Harley:I mean, I haven't really seen anybody dominate marab, so right, but like say, right, but how big of a point difference, would you think?
Alan:I would probably do minus 250 for Murab 250, okay. Minus 250 Murab, plus 200 for Sanhagen, to clarify for the viewers.
Harley:I don't bet and so, honestly, these numbers don't give me all that much real information. I just go off of all the different fighters I've seen.
Alan:They're different betting odds, they're hypothetical odds, but I do want to say that Murab is just an amazing fighter, amazing in that division.
Harley:You don't expect it to be close, but you don't expect it to be a wipeout.
Alan:Yeah but either way. Expect it to be a wipeout? Yeah, but either way. Mma, math does not add up. I always say this because I've seen it all and anything is possible in combat sports. Yeah.
Alan:I mean, if you want to look at what's possible, just look at Kamaru Usman versus Leon Edwards the first fight. Leon Edwards losing the first fight. Leon Edwards losing the entire fight, Every single round Knocks out one of the most amazing head kicks of all time. Towards the end of the fight, unexpected people were leaving, Like this guy's done, for Pulls out that amazing head kick out of his ass and knocks out Kamaru Usman, wins the belt. Yeah.
Alan:Very shocking moment. It just goes to show you that just anything can happen in this sport. Anybody can win. It's just a matter of getting that opportunity. And I do hope that Corey Sanhagen does get that opportunity. Shout out to the Sandman and let's see if he gets that opportunity. And I do hope that Corey Sanhagen does get that opportunity. Shout out to the Sandmen and let's see if he gets that opportunity for sure it'll be a it should be a fun fight should be very fun.
Alan:Amazing fight, ufc 316 out of Newark, new Jersey. Just an amazing card from start to finish and I'll go ahead and leave it at that.
Harley:What about the upcoming fights? Do you have any standouts? Usman and Buckley on the 14th.
Alan:Oh yeah, I mean in that card it does look like a great card. Also, I mean just in the main card alone, you got Mennefield versus Demar Sy Mennefield is looking to make his mark right now and get higher in the ranks.
Alan:Very good performances so far. You've got Abdul Malik versus Cody Brundage Always a fun fight. And then we've got a Cody Garbrandt fight A lot of Cody Garbrandt fans are excited about this one Versus Rayoni Barcelos, who's just a dog in that division. So we'll see that one and then the next one, edmund Shabzayan versus Petrosky. That should be amazing. And then we have former champion Rose N unis versus miranda maverick rose trying to get back to that title contention. Uh, right now she's number seven, so she could definitely go to get a little higher if she wins this and wins it decidingly. And then we have that amazing main fight, kamaru uzman, an absolute legend, versus Joaquin Buckley, the young blood.
Harley:From a couple of fights I've seen from Buckley. I am looking forward to seeing that fight.
Alan:Not just a fighter, but what an athlete is Joaquin Buckley? I mean just great performances in the UFC. I mean knocking out him, knocking out Wonderboy, and then going on and beating Colby Covington, beating him very, very decidingly. I mean beating the brakes off of him. So I'm very excited to see because Kamaru Usman is one of the greatest welterweights of all time, and so we should definitely see a dogfight between these two guys. Very exciting. That takes place June 14th 8 pm and that's at the State Farm Arena in Atlanta. So I mean that place is going to be jumping, I guarantee it. And then we'll also go ahead and bring up the June 21st fight night.
Harley:Very, very exciting, that's gonna be an exciting one.
Alan:I mean, in that fight card we got uh naimov on that main card versus grod. Uh, you got uh sadikov versus mata. That should be great fight. And then you got that heavyweight fight, curtis blades versus kuniev that one I'm definitely interested in seeing I mean uh heavyweight, very, very, very uh dangerous yeah, I think someone's gonna get put to sleep in that one.
Harley:I can't remember a single boring Blades fight.
Alan:No, I mean whether he's been the one taking it or been the one giving it His fights are usually entertaining either way, either way.
Alan:We got Mosayev versus Oralby. Oralby recently lost, but we'll see him return and hopefully he returns to form. And then we have the absolute dog, rafael fazeev versus ignacio bahamundas. Very exciting match up there. I mean we're going to see a lot of activity from both sides and we're going to see some nasty body shots from fazeev. I mean, those, those body kicks gonna be interesting to see some nasty body shots from Fazeev.
Harley:I mean those body kicks. That's going to be interesting to see.
Alan:Absolutely Very exciting. And then we have the one that everyone has been wanting to see in the light heavyweight division we got Jamal Hill versus Khalil Rountree Jr. Yeah, wow, I mean, don't have to mince words, that's going to be a bad.
Harley:I mean, I hope Jamal Hill is going to be able to keep up with Roundtree.
Alan:Absolutely.
Harley:Just based off of other opponents that Hill has fought that have also fought Roundtree. Roundtree seems to have come out better than Jamal Hill each time, even though the rankings show differently, I guess. Yeah, absolutely. I mean Roundtree.
Alan:he's a beast, he's a dog, but I mean not to mention also how much of a beast Jamal Hill is, I mean former champion getting to the top, unfortunately losing that belt. But we'll see how this one goes, how this one plays out. Two former poet on opponents I mean let's just see how that plays out. Um, maybe alex is going to be there. Maybe he'll say, hey, my sons are fighting, we'll see. Very, very exciting Saturday, june 21st. That's going to be in Baku, and that's 1 pm mountain time.
Harley:Now, just as a quick aside, what math is used to make for the rankings in that division, Because I don't see how Jamal the last two fights. I've seen Jamal Hill in. He lost Right. Yeah, he's in fourth, and has Groundtree lost two in a row as well? Because? I mean, I don't remember seeing him fight before Poeton, but obviously he lost that one.
Alan:I think we should ask Dana White how that works. The rankings are very confusing. Even to me, a longtime fan, it's just a confusing thing. I mean we've seen it all. We've seen people jump spots. I mean we had number eight, Khalil Roundtree versus Zippo-O-Ton, so I think the rankings are more like just there.
Harley:So I think the rankings are more like just there. Yeah, right now I did a quick look at the last fights that Khalil has been in and he lost two ago, but the one right before Poiton he won. Yeah, he did. And so I guess I just don't understand the ranking system, absolutely.
Alan:I mean, it's a very confusing system.
Harley:Well, maybe the only reason why he got all the way up to seventh was because they needed an opponent for Poetone. I don't know.
Alan:I don't know, but I mean, I think, if Dana White had his choice, I think John Jones would be number one on every division. Oh, good lord.
Alan:But that should be an amazing fight. Very excited I am all around very excited about this summer. We'll keep announcing these fights, but this summer is looking absolutely amazing If you're a UFC fan, if you're're a long time and if you're just a casual. These fights, uh, they have amazing stories behind them, not to mention just these athletes that pour their hearts out into this fight game and we'll go ahead and move on to those crazy confessions.
Harley:Very exciting just be ready everyone. Some of them might trigger you.
Alan:My first confession is actually coming from the true off my chest subreddit and the OP actually was deleted. Oh boy, title is when he was drunk he confessed that he found me repulsive.
Harley:Oh no, oh no.
Alan:My husband of two years together for five and I were invited to my sister-in-law's birthday. We were having drinks and my husband was getting drunk. He doesn't usually drink, so he gets drunk very easily. I love him when he's a little bit groggy, because he's very shy otherwise and he really lets loose when he drinks. My sister-in-law husband's sister calls herself incurably single and she often laments about not meeting the one. She's very picky and she's always pointing out the flaws of her dates. While she was doing this one time, and after complaining about her latest hookup, my husband interrupted her. He knew the guy in question, apparently, and he disagreed with how she perceived the guy. They were sparring for a little and everyone was laughing, because my sister-in-law is a very funny lady and so is my husband. Finally, my husband told her that she was very high maintenance and always concentrated. Oh God, oh God.
Alan:Wow. And now look at me. I'm the happiest man on earth In quotations. My sister-in-law laughed out loud and told him that's not how she worked. I thought what he said was horrible, the most horrible thing anybody has said about me, and yet nobody of those who were listening seemed to react to it at all, like it was totally normal thing to say, or just uh, or just said that I didn't know. That's how he felt about me.
Alan:You know, I remember him going away on a trip the day after we slept together for the first time and he wasn't available for like three weeks. And now I started pondering was he actually away or did he try to ghost me On our way home? I asked him if he really went to that trip and he smiled guilty and said no. His plan was actually not to ever see me again, but there was something strong that made him contact me again and that he was lucky he did, because I turned out to be the love of his life. He was starting to fidget in his seat and asked me if something was wrong and asked surely you're not hurt by what I said, right? I told them that it was the most appalling thing I've ever heard anyone say about me and to hear it coming from him.
Alan:I haven't spoken to him in a week. I don't know if I want him anymore. We have a son together, 18 months old, and a dog. I don't want to hurt our son, I'm just trying to keep it together, but I just feel so numb. Will time heal something like this? Or am I lying to myself? He says sorry all the time and he even cried when he saw me crying and I've only ever seen him cry once before in my life when his dad passed away. One of the comments by Plum12856 says oh hun, that is so bad. How do you feel with the silence between you and now and him sneaking around? I get that feeling that now isn't the right time to talk about things. Perhaps a few days break would do you good, perhaps with a good friend of yours some men can be such assholes.
Harley:So I have some commentary on this, first being, yes, that is a hurtful thing to say and it could have been worded in a significantly better way.
Alan:Man.
Harley:Secondly, a little bit of grace should be given, given the fact that he was drunk, I guess and part of the thing she said that she likes about him being drunk is his- letting loose, no way man. I don't think that's what she meant. Now. That said, is it great that he felt that way? Absolutely not. However, he got over being so shallow with her I, alright. He was clearly incredibly shallow at first, and then he got to know her and realize what a beautiful person she was, at least on the inside, right.
Alan:I don't know man.
Harley:They got married. They did get married. They have kids.
Alan:They're starting a life together.
Harley:And he literally said on multiple occasions she's the love of his life. That's a pretty big turnaround from being shallow and being repulsed by someone.
Alan:Yeah, I guess it's just kind of the wording, and being a witness to that is a little crazy to me well, yeah, I mean I'm.
Harley:I'm definitely not saying he.
Alan:He couldn't have worded it significantly, but I kind of feel like in this instant op was uh hit by nagasaki and then immediately hit by hiroshima. Right after mainly with that uh saying that she was repulsive after and then also saying that he was gonna ghost her. So that's a double bomb, man, um but like you said, yeah, I do understand that he was under the influence, um, and maybe maybe they wouldn't have found out otherwise. And in another circumstance, you know, maybe he wouldn't have found out otherwise.
Alan:And in another circumstance. You know, maybe he wouldn't have said that otherwise.
Harley:I mean, I'm going to have to say you got to look at this in light of what has happened since and within the love and life that you've established with him since then. Clearly, he changed his tune significantly, significantly, shortly thereafter, right? Because, yes, he was trying to ghost her, but nothing was saying he absolutely had to continue to interact with her. He could have continued to say no, no, thank you.
Alan:Kind of like what this other commenter says Ruyi Jade, he could have said in quotations I didn't think she was my type at first, but then I realized she was the love of my life and that would have been probably a lot better yeah but repulsed multiple question marks.
Alan:That's a horrible thing to say about your wife and mother of your child. Another comment by eastern underscore effective underscore 87 says my heart breaks for you. How is his behavior today? Is he remorseful or impatient and telling you to move on? If he's in it to win it, then he'll do what you both need to pull through and op replies with no.
Harley:He's very remorseful and is keeping out of my way yeah, that I mean she already, had already said that in her post. But yeah, it's good to have the clarity. But also, I'm sorry, but I know it's painful and I know it's hurtful what was said and how it was received. But giving a silent treatment, toxic, as that's just how it is. That's toxic. You cannot resolve things, you cannot fix things, you cannot get the proper perspective from the other person if you refuse to communicate, refusing to communicate is one of the worst things you could possibly do in a relationship.
Alan:I would actually agree with that.
Harley:It is horrifically obnoxious to me, I think, to have someone try and give you silent treatment.
Alan:Yes, and, no matter what the case may be, it's always a beneficial. I mean, it's always helpful to talk about things and to talk things through because, like you said, you're never going to get anywhere with the silent treatment do you love them?
Harley:do you care about them? Do you want to know how they really feel? Can you get those answers? By being silent.
Alan:No.
Harley:Sorry, that was just. That's a big thing for me.
Alan:I mean, it's an amazing point. We always talk about in every episode how communication is such a strong basis for a relationship, and I think we would like our partner to be honest with us I don't know about how brutally honest, and I hope that OP and their husband work things out, you know.
Harley:Right. I mean and this was kind of my point of giving grace, given the situation, one he was in the middle of an argument with his sister for being literally what he used to be, and he was trying to get the point across that look, just because you don't think they're crossing all your, all your t's and dotting all your i's, doesn't mean they're not a great match. This was my experience. Yes, he was drunk and he did not say that in a good way. So, and for all I know, he might not be a very good communicator, like he did not say that in a good way, and, for all I know, he might not be a very good communicator, like he might not have the tools necessary to convey such things well, but I'm certain he can do them much better when he's not intoxicated, sure.
Alan:Whatever happens from this point forward.
Harley:It's just going to be nothing but pettiness dude, no, no, it cannot be.
Alan:Honey, can you please pass the juice? No, I thought I repulsed you. I'm just not going to do anything for him.
Harley:So long as that's done in true humor, that sort of thing can happen. But if she's actually being mean and upset about it for the rest of her life, then that's on her. He's clearly remorseful. He clearly wants to fix this. You know, right, like you. Like I said, you got.
Harley:You got to give people a little bit of grace given the situations that they're in yes, given I'm not saying that it's something he should do or anyone should do, but a little bit of grace is warranted for someone that you love, right? I mean, if you say something stupid because you're distracted, upset, intoxicated, whatever, you said something stupid.
Alan:Made a mistake.
Harley:It's a mistake, right? If you own it, which he is, you gotta, you gotta accept that On the receiving end of it. I mean, that's my two cents.
Alan:I think that was worth five.
Harley:Yeah, I may have given a few more than two cents there, alright. Well, if we don't have any more comments on that one, let's go to mine. And mine is out of confession subreddit and it's by very cute aja bi Bjar Dushut. Interesting, I probably butchered that. Anyway, the title is I faked liking sparkling water for three years and now I'm trapped. I'm 30 now, but this started when I was around 27, during a phase where I was trying really hard to be one of those put-together adults who meal prep, drink sparkling water and have plants that aren't just slowly dying in the corner. So I bought a 12-pack of LaCroix because you know that's what the cool, healthy people were drinking. First sip it tasted like someone whispering the word fruit into a cup of TV static Absolutely disgusting. But I had already posted it on my Instagram story with the caption new addiction, lol. No.
Harley:And that was the beginning of my downfall. Friends started bringing LaCroix over when they visited Coworkers stocked it in the office fridge because I liked it. My girlfriend now fiance thought it was cute how into sparkling water I was, so she bought me a soda stream for Christmas. Now I'm in too deep. I've become the guy who nods thoughtfully while drinking what is essentially spicy. Sadness, I have flavors in my fridge with names like Pamplemousse and Limoncello and I pretend like I can tell the difference. I can't. It all tastes like carbonated regret. Sometimes I just want a normal drink, but if I ever open a Gatorade, someone will say whoa, no LaCroix today. And I'll just fake laugh like ha ha, gotta switch it up. Meanwhile my soul is quietly screaming. Anyway, if you're young and reading this, never lie about your beverages. That stuff will haunt you. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Alan:Wow, well, they're tasting static, that's for sure.
Harley:Yeah, I can't stand sparkling water. I'm almost 33 years old and I have never acquired a taste for it. It's just, it tastes like sadness, just like you said.
Alan:Yeah for the most part I will say we have a soda stream now and you add some specific flavors to it, like flavors you like, like they have a dr pepper, like oh yeah, that's full on soda uh, what's it called dr pete? Shout out, dr pete. That's my second favorite doctor, homie dr oz number one, but I honestly I don't.
Harley:I don't like carbonated drinks, I don't like carbonation. But yeah, I've tried it like. I'll drink soda with alcohol like as a mixer, but I almost never drink just straight soda, no, but and especially not sparkling water tastes so awful, but anyway.
Harley:The top comment by Neo9113 says Tell everyone you're going carbonation-free, Easy solution. People's tastes change over time. You could also pretend they changed something in the formula and it's no longer pleasing to your taste buds. And then it's no longer pleasing to your taste buds and I think that's probably a pretty decent way of getting out from under this. Obviously, I think it would probably have been a significantly better option not to continue down the road of pretending you like it.
Alan:Continuing a lie. Working so hard to continue a lie, man.
Harley:I mean, that's some serious dedication, Like how worried are you about perceptions?
Speaker 2:that you are inflicting this upon yourself, because no one's forcing you to no one's forcing him.
Harley:No, I mean, yes, you can feel obligated to finish a pack that someone bought for you or what have you, but you can always like I. I personally I'm not a deceptive person, generally speaking, so I I would have immediately been like I spoke too soon or something along those lines personally, but then again, I'm not one to post stuff on instagram to try and pretend I'm cool or whatever. What about you? What would you do in this?
Alan:situation. I mean, uh, I wouldn't lie about that kind of thing anyway I think I would say you did, say you made the mistake I would have um after posting my new addiction. I would have immediately been like just kidding. It's ass don't drink it.
Harley:Yeah, that's a.
Alan:That's a pretty solid response, a reaction to having made the mistake like that I mean but I mean, I think we've all been there to a certain point like, like, if you take a picture of a meal or something you're like, well, this is gonna be, it looks bomb, it's gonna be fire. You take a picture, put the like if you take a picture of a meal or something you're like, well, this is going to be, it looks bomb, it's going to be fire, you take a picture, put the phone down, you take your first bite and it's like garbage you know Going out to a restaurant.
Harley:I've definitely had that.
Alan:Yeah, absolutely.
Harley:You see the plate of food and you're like that's a pretty good presentation. Yeah. It smells pretty decent.
Alan:I yeah, it smells pretty decent, I think I think I'm going to enjoy this. Yes, first, bite.
Harley:It's bland or flavor, nasty or something you know, yeah, horrible texture.
Alan:I think we've all been there in the realm of disappointment yeah, yeah, you and I went to a restaurant where that happened to us once you know what, walking in there, I remember all the TVs, the ambience and I was like damn, this place is a real contender to Buffalo Wild Wings. Like this is a massive place to watch sports, or something.
Harley:There was a lot of people in there, a lot of people they seemed happy, seemed happy. You'd think it was probably a pretty good place to eat.
Alan:And the food tasted like those TV dinners, like those frozen tv dinners, like even the macaroni tasted like frozen tv dinner macaroni yeah, I had.
Harley:I had chicken and it legitimately tasted very similar to the like frozen tyson stuff.
Alan:It was like oh, like every, every single thing on that, on that, yeah, so I mean just to mention that, you know.
Harley:It's okay to say that you were wrong. It's okay to say that you don't like it.
Alan:I mean, if I don't like it, I don't like it, and I'm not going to lie to you or myself about it, you know, I'm just going to be straight up, but that's just the kind of person I am. I know there's all kinds of different people out in the world and obviously people who do like sparkling water and people who lie about like you're liking sparkling water well, I feel that way, on a personal note, that a lot of people are that way with beers yes, what a great, yeah, what a great example, like a lot of people seem to think that it's the most masculine thing ever to have a beer and just talk about how awesome it is and stuff, and it's like I can't see it.
Alan:Maybe you really do really like it.
Harley:And I do know people who genuinely are like super into it. Like they get down into the science they get into the nitty gritty, micro-brews and stuff like that.
Alan:Yeah are like super into it. Like they get down into the science, they get, oh yeah, micro bruises like that yeah, but other people I.
Harley:I just feel like there's like this guy for beer as well, in plenty of situations yeah, I mean I feel like, yeah, he'd lie about like I've talked to people who said that they ended up developing a taste for beer after they faked it for like a year or two, and I'm just like I don't see the need to develop the taste for something like that it's funny because I've heard the term fake it till you make it uh-huh, but not about your beverage.
Alan:What are you trying to make here?
Harley:I yeah, I've just never really understood it myself.
Alan:There are beers that I like, and I've had that experience, too, where people have told me oh, you've got to try this beer, you've got to try this stout.
Speaker 2:you've got to try this, ale I try it ass bro.
Alan:It's like dude, what are you trying to poison me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've had it, but then again like you said people's palates are different.
Alan:Everybody has a different taste. Are different, everybody has a different taste. Yeah, and who knows?
Harley:maybe they're lying. Maybe they genuinely like it and but if it's not, for you it's not for you like I, I I will give a real try to most anything, sure, even if I know I'm not gonna like it I don't like I don't like beer or wine.
Harley:But every time someone comes along and they're like, oh, you gotta try this. This is so different from any of the ones you've had before, or maybe you just didn't try this. Good, this right one like here. Oh you, you probably just don't like stouts, maybe you'll like this lager, or what have you right, and I'll give it a real try. I I mean sure, but I don't lie about liking it.
Alan:You're not going to live your life you know tiptoeing around people because you want to avoid them handing you that drink. I don't know. What an interesting scenario this person's in.
Harley:All right. So, yeah, not one that we can really identify with ourselves, but it's definitely an amusing scenario to get yourself stuck into.
Alan:And I have a confession, harley, and I'm going to go ahead and give a trigger warning for this one Uh-oh. I'm going to be toning down pretty much the rhythm of this podcast with this one Uh-oh, but one interesting title, so it's, by True, off my Chest. Oh boy Person is just-clerk2632. Title I found my mom's suicide note. She's still alive it was hidden in an old coat in the attic, dated 2017.
Alan:Short, just that. She was sorry about everything and that we'd be better off. I was 14 at the time. I remember she was tired all the time and I couldn't be better off. I was 14 at the time. I remember she was tired all the time and I couldn't figure out why, said she had the flu for weeks, even slept through Christmas. I didn't know she almost left. I didn't know she was hurting that bad. I just thought she didn't care anymore. She made it through. She never talks about it, however, still doesn't to this day.
Alan:I put the note back where I found it and I just hug her a little harder every night and uh, the comments are pretty interesting. I mean wick. And pixie says uh, well done for not mentioning it to her. I'm glad she fought through the darkness and stayed, and that was probably almost as hard as when she sat down to write that note sending love to your mom and the rest of your family. Why don't you read a couple more before I chip in?
Alan:Medium salamander, as a mom who's been there, almost positive. It was so glad she made it to the other side and that opie showed her dignity in not mentioning it. I know it probably would have made me spiral knowing my child had found my suicide note. Kids are not meant to hold that weight. And more comments going to St Glad she's alive.
Alan:And one of the comments that was also pretty interesting, by Emo Riggin hey, as one of those moms that almost left but didn't, it's okay for you to tell her something along the lines of how much you love her and what a positive difference she's brought into your life. I'm sorry for whatever she's going through and for whatever it might have put you through. Mental illness, depression, ppd, psd, etc. Is a hell of a liar. Ptsd is a hell of a liar and tries to tell people their loved ones are better off without them. But the liar is wrong. Sending you hugs uh, that's a heavy weight to carry in silence. Sometimes the closest people hide the darkest battles, hug harder because some wounds don't get words, just moments all right, before I dig in on my own what?
Harley:what were the timelines again, like the age of the poster and how long ago was this posted?
Alan:Six days ago.
Harley:Okay, and it was 2017 when the note was originally written, Dated 2017. Okay how old are they?
Alan:It says they were 14 back in 2017, so what is that?
Harley:Oh, so it's now 2025, so eight years ago. So they are now presumably out of the house.
Alan:Very young still.
Harley:Yeah, but 22,. You're likely out of the house, but well they do say every night, so maybe they're not, mm-hmm Could be in college, I don't know. Anyway, neither here nor there. What I would say in this situation personally is probably I wouldn't outright bring up the suicide note, at least not at first. But to gloss it over, I think is dangerous, because if you're not addressing the underlying cause for the feeling of the need of that, then just giving extra hugs, or tighter hugs as they put it, isn't going to fix that issue. I understand the desire. I understand being scared of broaching the subject, the desire.
Alan:I understand being scared of broaching the subject and I understand, not knowing where to start with a situation like this, because it is a big scary, very scary topic. What a heavy burden.
Harley:Yes, that said, if the person like saying, just in a general sense, if the person that you know who had planned out, or at least written out, a suicide note, you can't just ignore it. Because if you ignore it and barely how to put this Just giving extra oomph to your hugs isn't going to fix the issue. It's not going to, it's not necessarily going to help them get out of any funk in the future. If they're not in it right now, I understand not freaking out and immediately coming to them and addressing it and stuff like that, and that's an entirely reasonable response. That's an entirely reasonable response.
Harley:But if you have a good relationship with the person who you found a note for, I think it would be a good thing to tentatively bring up the subject of struggles. Right, because we're all human. Yes, they are your mom, but guess what? Your parent is also a human too. This is their first time in life. They're going to make just as many mistakes as you are currently. They're not just some omnipotent God who knows where, how, when and why. They're just as lost as you. They're trying to struggle through with life, just as you are, yes, adulting.
Harley:And it's a good starting point to know and to discuss struggles, because sometimes just talking about them relieves a huge amount of the burden of the struggle. Just knowing that someone else hears you and cares is huge. When dealing with suicidal thoughts it's huge right. And if you, if you're too, you can't, if you care about the person, you cannot be too scared to broach even something as light and tangential as struggles. Because if someone is to the point where they're considering suicide, obviously this is eight years ago. Clearly they got over it, at least to a point.
Harley:Maybe, but that does not necessarily mean, they've never had those thoughts, ever again or never.
Alan:will again, yes, exactly.
Harley:And if you actually care about the person, you got to do something about it.
Speaker 2:At least that's my view no no, I'm on the same.
Harley:I I'm not one to sit back and just let it be. If you care about the person, you can't just let them flounder.
Harley:And it's like if you see someone who's clearly struggling and fighting for their life not to drown in the middle of a pool, even if it's only five feet deep or whatever. It's their struggle. They're freaking out, they're terrified. Standing at the edge of the pool and just saying, hey, your feet can touch the bottom isn't going to fix the issue. It might help and they might be able to step back from the panic long enough to be like, oh, maybe I can, but in the moment when they're treading water and just thinking that's all they can do to barely survive, you, you gotta, you gotta do something, anything.
Alan:You you know, which is a great example, and I think it's very poignant because depression a lot of the times does feel like you're drowning. Mm-hmm, you know it feels like, no matter how hard you're trying to get up to the surface, there's something that keeps pulling you downward, and I'm also in the same boat. That, uh op, maybe should you know, I understand being gentle about the topic. It's a very intimidating topic to talk to anybody about?
Alan:uh, depression, not a lot of people want to talk about depression. I mean those kind of real things that us it's like you said, humans suffer from every day. I think in this case, op does need to sit down and and talk about things and maybe not bring up suicide note per se yeah bring about the times that where she clearly remembers her being her mom, being very lethargic yeah, not wanting to get out of bed. Maybe it would help to bring that up. Talk about what?
Alan:were those feelings that you were having at that time? What, what was it that that you were suffering from? You know and, uh, you know, because you know, especially with our parents, you know we just think of them, because you know, especially with our parents, you know, we just think of them like parents. You know we don't think of them like Bob or Mary.
Alan:You know, we think of them like mom and dad you know, and but I think also a lot of the time, people don't really like talking about that sort of thing, which is a very real thing that a lot of people do suffer from which is a very real thing that a lot of people do suffer from, yeah, especially parents, you know, trying to keep everything afloat and trying to keep you alive, you know yeah.
Alan:There's just so many burdens to bear and ultimately it becomes a very heavy baggage. You know, uh-huh, and I do think that at a later time or, you know, whenever they get the chance, maybe it is time to start talking about those sort of things. I will also like to mention to our listeners many uh resources. Uh, there's a list of national hotlines that you could contact um, and I know that people are afraid to contact those hotlines, you know, not knowing what to expect, but there's a lot of forums and there's actually an amazing team, um, a literal team on uh, reddit, slash, suicide watch, and if you want to kind of talk to anybody, uh, anonymously, maybe get some stuff off your chest. That could help you too, you know, and sharing your story might be a good idea.
Harley:And just a couple things as well. Firstly, that comment that was talking about PTSD, comment that was talking about ptsd, about and and the feelings of genuinely feeling like the people would be better off without them.
Harley:Yes, I understand that I I've I felt that way more than a few times, but something that helped, that helped me. This isn't going to help everyone, but something that helped me. This isn't going to help everyone, but something that helped me with those feelings was that I, if I cared about the other people and if I thought that they cared about me even a little bit, do I want to hurt them with my loss? Right? And if you struggle to think of how the person would react with you being gone, person would react with how, with you being gone, consider yourself like. One of the ways that I noticed for myself to get over that feeling was to watch how people reacted to the loss of a pet.
Harley:Right now, don't get me wrong, there are people who genuinely do value pets on par, sometimes even over human life. Sure, but that's pretty far and rare. So all you have to really do is pay attention to how those people react to the loss of a pet, even how they react to the loss of someone else's pet, right, even how they react to the loss of someone else's pet, right and you can see if you look at them from a logical standpoint. Obviously this isn't necessarily the most logical of problems to be having, but I used logic myself to help get out of it. And if you can equate yourself to having at least the same value as a dog or a cat or even a fish Sure, goldfish then do you want to cause those people that pain?
Harley:I mean okay, yeah, that's maybe not the best of advice or whatever, but that's something that helped me, just, you know, thinking logically about it. Yeah, yeah, simple, not the best of advice or whatever, but that's something that helped me, just, you know, thinking logically about it, yeah, Simple equation, if you will Right Person's sad about fish. They'd probably be just as sad about losing me. Even if I'm not in their life every day, that doesn't mean they won't be sad about losing me. Would I be sad to lose them? Yeah, would. I be sad to losing me, would I be sad?
Harley:to lose them? Yeah, would I be sad to lose what? Would I be sad for my friend to lose their fish?
Alan:yes, yeah, you're sad.
Harley:Because they're sad, then they're probably going to be sad about losing me, even if they don't think I'm like something amazing. That doesn't mean it wouldn't make them sad right do I want them to be sad? Probably not. Sorry, that got a little tangential.
Alan:I do agree with the point. You know, everybody has their own way of kind of doing things. You know people do write in journals and things like that. I will end it on the note that and I'm speaking generally to any listener, listener and to anybody is that you are not a burden and you in fact do matter and we all do matter. Yeah, and I'll leave it at that yeah.
Harley:And if, if someone you know is struggling with this or used to struggle with it even, in my opinion, the best thing you can do is to be there and be supportive. Yes, you don't even have to necessarily be supportive with that directly, right? Like just because someone's struggling with depression doesn't mean you have to be like, oh, what can I do to fix your depression? Right?
Harley:someone's struggling with depression doesn't mean you have to be like oh, what can I do to fix your depression. It can be as simple as oh, I happen to know that this, this and this makes that person smile. I'm going to be on the lookout for that throughout my daily life and when I see it, I'm going to snap a picture of it and I'm going to send it to them, or whatever.
Alan:Be considerate.
Harley:Just keep them in mind, keep their interests in mind, and just that little bit of interaction can be huge, goes a long way. You know, that extra text that they get from you, that extra phone call Be like oh, I saw this and I thought of you today.
Alan:Whatever, it can help people feel and realize that they truly do matter to you Absolutely, and that can be a huge aspect in someone choosing to not follow through with a note like that and that's something that we all can do, we can all take forward in our daily lives is if you care about someone, if you're close to someone, why not check up on them and and why not be considerate of them? It's just a great thing to do, I think.
Harley:All right Now. Hopefully we can maybe be not quite so serious with this one. But this is a confession by Mel. Melissa and it says Neighbor tried to get my mom fined over our shed so I got his $40,000 pool filled in. I live with my mom. She's quiet, keeps to herself and never bothers anyone.
Harley:A few months ago our new neighbor decided to report her to the city for having an illegal shed in the backyard. It was total BS. The shed's been there for years and has full permits. An inspector came out, checked everything and left without saying a word. But the neighbor, smug Proud, thought he had scared us. So I did a little digging. Turns out his brand new pool was way too close to the property line and illegally built over a utility easement. I reported him, attached photos, quoted city codes. Two weeks later the city ordered him to either move it impossible or fill it in. He lost the whole thing. Forty thousand dollars down the drain literally. Now he gets to look at our completely legal shed every day while standing over a pile of dirt where his pool used to be.
Alan:Mom sleeps great. Now, oh wow, that's what he gets.
Harley:I mean you stick your nose in other people's business just to cause problems. You deserve having it shoved right back into your face.
Alan:Yeah.
Harley:I mean, what do they say? Karma or whatever? Yeah, it might not be the most mature way to view this, in my opinion. Sure. But I fully understand it and I support it when it's done like this. Yeah, I fully understand it and I support it. When it's done like this. Yeah, like he tried to be overbearing and try and say that and try and try to stick his nose in her business with the supposed illegal shed. No, he had. No, I'm assuming he had no real reason to believe that.
Harley:Right, it was there before he moved in. He just decided he wanted to say it was illegal. I guess maybe he was in his line of sight or a wrong? Color or something I don't know but it could be anything. Neighbors from hell, yeah yeah, I mean, if you're gonna be nasty, fully expect nasty to come back at you. That's how I live my life.
Harley:I try to absolutely try not to be nasty, because nasty comes back oh, it does and it can be real mean and speaking, speaking of being real, mean the top comment by care bear 7087 says put a kiddie pool next to the shed and then they they reiterated underneath that diabolical would be sitting in it, facing where his pool used to be, under an umbrella, with an adult beverage in hand. Cheers, yeah, that's the.
Alan:Probably the, the nuclear option with that I mean, yeah, I mean, why are you trying to, you know, impede people's lives like that, you know? Uh, I don't think they had a genuine reason to try to, you know, mess up this old lady's shed, you know, and people just like to be that way. Sometimes they're not happy with their lives and they try to kind of project that on everybody else and make them as unhappy as they are, you know.
Harley:Yeah, and some people also just want to be the big fish in the little pond. You know, they want to throw their weight around because they think they're just the bee's knees, or what have you. They're weighed around because they think they're just the bee's knees, or what have you? One person my very own account responded with your neighbor paid $40,000 for a pool with no permits and then called the city inspectors to come to your backyard. Wow, that does cast a little bit of a question as to the authenticity of this, but let's just assume that it did happen. Yeah, people genuinely are that stupid. If people weren't that stupid, you wouldn't be able to pull up crazy crime headlines and see some of the absolutely insane things people will do.
Alan:Oh yeah.
Harley:Idiotic things, absolutely insane, absolutely insane things people will do. Oh yeah, idiotic things, absolutely insane they will. They will commit a crime and then, within hours, be talking to the police about said crime like the interviewed people.
Alan:They're always interviewed. Yeah, usually it's a criminal there's that.
Harley:And then there's people who were, who will literally have like a, a drug, a drug deal gone bad, and then they will freaking call the cops while they still have drugs on them, like do you really expect this to not be bad for you?
Alan:or like I heard a story of the guy who he had a bounty on his head and he turned himself in thinking he'd get the money. Oh yeah.
Harley:I saw a screenshot of that happening, man bro, it's insane.
Alan:Insane dude.
Harley:People can be incredibly stupid sometimes.
Alan:And I think these were some pretty crazy confessions, harley, and I think we'll go ahead and end the episode there. People do some crazy things that they do and uh, I kind of these kind of stories. They kind of like cease to amaze me at this point they cease to amaze you, I'm like whoa at this point, what else is somebody capable of? You know, and for that kind of thing, you have to keep your gloves up, man.
Harley:Yeah, try not to be stupid. Be kind to people and keep your gloves up for those people that aren't kind back Exactly.
Alan:Go ahead and like and subscribe and we'll go ahead and catch you in the next one.
Harley:Thank you, have a good one.
