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He hit me in the head...With a meatball sub?!
Dustin Poirier's emotional retirement takes center stage as Max Holloway successfully defends his BMF title at UFC 318. The Diamond may not have secured the undisputed lightweight belt, but his legacy as one of MMA's most respected warriors is forever cemented with his record of 30 wins, 23 finishes, and a reputation as being your favorite fighter's favorite fighter.
We break down the entire UFC 318 card, from the explosive early prelims to the main event trilogy fight between Holloway and Poirier. The card delivered several standout moments, including the slugfest between Marvin Vittori and Brendan Allen that rightfully earned Fight of the Night honors, and Paulo Costa's return to form against Roman Kopolov. Costa's post-fight callout of Khamzat Chimaev adds intrigue to the middleweight landscape.
The most touching moment came when Holloway, despite his victory, acknowledged that the night belonged to Poirier and his remarkable career. Poirier's decision to walk away while still at the top of his game resonates deeply, as he poignantly explained: "I want to retire from the sport, I don't want the sport to retire me."
After reviewing upcoming UFC events to watch, including the highly anticipated UFC 319 featuring Dricus Du Plessis vs Khamzat Chimaev, we shift gears to analyze wild internet confessions. Our deep dive reveals who turns to diamonds under pressure and who completely cracks, offering fascinating insights into human psychology when faced with life's most challenging situations.
Whether you're an MMA enthusiast or simply fascinated by the human condition under pressure, this episode delivers thought-provoking content that will keep you engaged from start to finish. Listen now and join the conversation about which stories truly demonstrated resilience and which ones showcased complete collapse under pressure.
Welcome everyone to another episode of Peak Points. On today's episode we're going to give a reaction of UFC 318 and talk about Dustin Diamond Poirier's retirement fight. We're going to go ahead and react to some wild internet confessions and see if the pressure made them diamonds or made them crack. Sounds good, let's get into it. Hardy, let's get into the Octagon and we'll talk about that amazing card, which I was very excited to see.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there were some really good fights. I personally didn't get to see the early prelims, but I signed in at 6 our time, which is when the main card started Just the regular prelims, I should say.
Speaker 1:The early prelims were very exciting.
Speaker 3:The regular prelims were really good too.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and I'll go ahead and just gloss over the quick wins of that early prelims. You got Carly Judis versus Nicole Cailari. Carly pulls that one out in the third round by TKO, which was like a well-placed lever shot Amazing.
Speaker 2:That is so painful. It, bruno Ferreira, that is so painful.
Speaker 1:It just shuts down the body it does. Amazing performance by Curley. Bruno Ferreira takes the win over McVay. Ryan Spann gets that W in the first round by submission, and what a great performance by him.
Speaker 3:Wow, three round one. Submissions in the early pre-match.
Speaker 1:A lot of finishes in this card. Like I said earlier, this card was amazing. We got Jimmy Crute getting that first round submission, and that was amazing too. And then we have that great knockout by islam dulatov versus adam fugit, giving him the performance of the night. A nasty left straight sends him on his ass, and the follow-up shots were just as nasty dang and then we move on to that uh prelim card, starting off amazingly with a nasty knockout uh, eteba gotie versus robert valentine and man, that was he just pieced him up went right after him didn't give him any chance no any to to breathe any moment, to rethink what he was doing.
Speaker 3:I mean, I wouldn't call him a silent assassin, as his name goes or his nickname is, but man alive. Did he just maul him? Yeah, and they were very calculated strikes very well placed and, like DC was saying, he wasn't rushed. Exactly, yeah, he wasn't rushed about it, but it was a very tactical keeping him off of his or back on his heels really. And then just keeping him down.
Speaker 1:And very unfortunate for Robert Valentin. I believe this is his third loss in a row. Third loss in a row. Uh, robert valentine was in the ultimate fighter reality show under valentina shevchenko versus alexa grasso that season and unfortunately he hasn't had many good showings in the ufc. But uh, ateba, now that guy is on two knockouts back-to-back, so let's see where he goes. He also gets performance of the night.
Speaker 3:I do want to mention, though, that I think Valentin could be a good fighter, absolutely. I think he just needs to focus on defense a bit, because his defense was very much lacking or lacking in that fight. He didn't seem to really know how to disengage and or counter the attacks.
Speaker 1:I have to agree with that.
Speaker 3:It seemed a little swamped, if you will.
Speaker 1:I will also add there was a point where Ateba was rocking him and pretty much tossing him to the cage. And. Robert Valentin would shake his head and say nope, nope, I'm fine.
Speaker 3:Obviously, you weren't fine, bro, Not quite yeah.
Speaker 1:And he should have kept those gloves up. Should have, and he should have kept those gloves up. Should have. Francisco Prado versus Vera Tendikoff Amazing dude, what a freaking fight. For the most part, a lot of drops on each other's part, but split decision. Vera Tendikoff takes that.
Speaker 3:And I think it went the wrong way personally. Could have gone the other way From my view of the fight. I think Prado the wrong way personally.
Speaker 1:Could have gone the other way.
Speaker 3:From my view of the fight, I think Prado should have had it. He was the aggressor pretty much the entire time, and I mean yes, they were both dealing tremendous amounts of damage, throwing lots of hits blah blah blah, but I personally think Prado should have won that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the kind of fight that it was. It was just a very close fight and hence getting the split decision, and then we'll move on to that fight. That very well could have gone on the main card oh man yeah, it should have, and let's talk about real life drama between these two gentlemen.
Speaker 1:in the middleweight division. You got marvin vittori uh, which they call him the mega chin because he eats shots no diddy. And then you got brendan allen, which is funny because they met each other outside of a sporting event, a fighting event, and this was, I believe, over a year ago, and these two gentlemen outside in the streets decided to take it to punches, take it to blows, and that's what they did. They went ahead and fought at the hard rock in florida okay um.
Speaker 1:So these guys have some real life beef and you could tell in this one they sure fought like it yeah, they sure fought like they had real life beef, specifically with brendan allen, who's known more for his wrestling right and uh, wrestling went out the freaking window in this one and mainly strikes. I mean just both of them swinging for the fences, which was insane to me I mean they were.
Speaker 3:They were not only dishing it out, they were taking it from each other. They weren't absolutely slipping most of those punches.
Speaker 1:No. They were just straight up Rolling and eating them.
Speaker 3:Hitting them and it was almost a one for one for a lot of them.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Brendan Allen takes it. I mean, he won a good amount of the rounds towards the end, I believe, and Brendan Allen takes it by unanimous decision.
Speaker 3:I think the main thing that really pushed him into winning that one was the takedowns, because he had three takedowns to Vittori's zero. I'm looking on the UFC and actually it says that Vittori had two less significant strikes.
Speaker 1:That's insane and it definitely was a striking match, giving them the fight of the night which, like I said, it was an amazing performance it was uh, then we had the last prelim fight. Was that kyler phillips versus venetius olivera? That was a very interesting fight. You got venetius olivera just walking forward, like mich, like Michael Myers with his hands down. And you got Kyler Phillips just backing up the entire fight.
Speaker 3:It was a very interesting fight, very interesting fight. They definitely are nowhere near contention level yet.
Speaker 1:Absolutely not Based on their performances. No.
Speaker 3:But I think this was a good stepping stone for both of them. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Oliver making a name for himself I've already seen some funny memes is like how do you be the guy who is with his hands down the entire fight and doesn't get knocked out? Just a picture of an easy soliloquy crazy. The strikes was pretty crazy. To the amount of strikes was rather surprising.
Speaker 3:Great performance by Vinicius Oliveira, but still nowhere near on par with the fight of the night by Vittorio.
Speaker 1:No, absolutely not. Oliveira winning by unanimous decision. And then we move on to that main card. Very surprising performance by michael johnson versus the much younger daniel uh. Zell huber winning by unanimous decision and I actually agree with that performance. He put the works on zell huber and really showed some experience, in my opinion he did um.
Speaker 3:Given his greater experience, I was expecting a little bit uh more of a commanding performance absolutely given his age and experience. But uh, I mean to be fairellhuber is he was a lot longer, he had more reach, both with his really long legs and his arms. I mean yeah absolutely so. I understand not being very respectful of that, Because also Zellhuber's kicks looked mean.
Speaker 1:Those kicks were crisp.
Speaker 3:If he did not take those seriously, he would have been knocked down at the very least, if not knocked out. So I mean I understand him being respectful and not trying to showboat, but yeah, I definitely agree it was warranted.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:I mean from a casual observer, seeing a lot of those kicks go unanswered, seemed like zoe hoober might have been winning. But he wasn't.
Speaker 1:He wasn't actually commanding the fight no, uh, michael johnson dictating the pace and uh, even getting a couple knockdowns. Uh, you know knockdowns.
Speaker 3:You know the UFC says one, so they only credit one. I guess they only credit one. Great performance by Michael.
Speaker 1:Johnson.
Speaker 3:He definitely stumbled a few times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he definitely stumbled them a couple times. Daniel Zellhuber showing some resilience in that one, michael Johnson getting the win, and then we had that dog fight.
Speaker 3:That was a good fight.
Speaker 1:Dan the Managay versus patricio pitbull and uh patricio pitbull. With the upset you know, even myself I had dan eagay for that one and uh patricio pitbull pulling out a lot of great striking. That very much surprised me.
Speaker 3:Against Dan Ige yeah, the first round he wasn't going off. He seemed like he was mostly just taking the measure of Dan Ige, but then he really picked it up in the second round.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Patricio Pitbull pulling out the upset, winning by unanimous decision, and honestly, that was a great performance and I got to give it up to Pitbull for that one. Dan Ige towards the end did not seem too comfortable and that kind of showed.
Speaker 3:I mean definitely on the third round. Dan Ige really put on the works. He was really pushing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was trying to get that round back.
Speaker 3:He was like I really need to do the win on this, but Pitbull's takedowns and the complete domination in round two, if you will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:It definitely secured the win for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it definitely secured the win and great upset. I I would say, let's see where danie goes and let's see what's next for patricio pitbull. This puts him in a very interesting spot. I mean, he lost his debut to yarir rodriguez, but yarir rodriguez is top five, you know. So it's kind of different, but I do want to see where pitbull goes from here. And then we had that amazing fight. I just want to say right off the bat what a great fight and I'm very surprised that this one didn't get fight of the night, or at least performance of the night was kevin holland versus daniel rodriguez. Oh man that was.
Speaker 3:That was an exciting fight very exciting um, I will have to say, just it was really good, but I do have to agree that, uh, the Martin and Brendan fight definitely deserved fight of the night yeah, over it sure but uh, yeah, it was. It was an exciting fight. It was at no point did you really feel either one was definitely the the walk away winner sure um I do so it kept. That added tension throughout the whole thing absolutely and I mean it was how to put it.
Speaker 3:Uh, it was just exciting because I mean they were really. They weren't. I mean they weren't fighting out of anger, like but, it seemed like they like the brendan one and brendan and martin one but yeah they. They were, they were very respectful, but they definitely wanted to beat the stuffing out of the other one.
Speaker 1:I will say Kevin Holland getting dropped a couple times by D-Rod, I do want to say, towards the third round I did feel that D-Rod was up two rounds to one. Kevin Holland, staying resilient, still has a nasty chin, but he did get dropped a couple times. Still has a nasty chin, but he did get dropped a couple of times. However, d-rod towards the end in that third round looked very, very gassed. Both of them were so gassed.
Speaker 3:I mean they were. They're not ready for a five round fight. No, that would have been crazy. I mean towards the end.
Speaker 1:I think D-Rod was just getting hit towards the end, and I do like that. Daniel Rodriguez now is, from what I understand, is able to spend full-time training now, so I think that he's putting together a really great run, winning three fights in a row. So I'm very excited to see where Daniel Rodriguez goes now. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he's definitely going to get ranked after this one, putting up a really good performance against Kevin Holland and Kevin Holland taking a trip to the hospital after this one for a CT scan because of that many headshots that he was eating dude. Understandable.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was eating the dude. Understandable. Yeah, I will admit I'm not upset that it went to rodriguez, but genuinely speaking, I honestly thought it should have been nick holland. Um, even just looking at the numbers, like round one he had eight more total strikes. With what was it? 11 more significant strikes sure round two. Yeah, he was. He was down 10 total strikes but he had a takedown. Um, now the significant strikes. He was definitely way down on round two, same and no knockdowns versus two. But uh, the round three.
Speaker 3:He came back and he had 37 versus 35 and 30 significant versus 17, and one knockdown versus zero so just looking at the raw numbers I was and and kind of sort of keeping track of that throughout the fight I was. I was kind of surprised, but I will say that after Rodriguez almost got submitted and got knocked down all at once, yeah, that was crazy. And then he got up and he started just completely mauling on Holland. After that I understand it going to Rodriguez.
Speaker 1:Sure yeah.
Speaker 3:Just looking at the raw numbers, I was a little surprised.
Speaker 1:I will say great performance by Daniel Rodriguez, getting that unanimous decision. I did have him two rounds to one, and then we move on to that middleweight bout that I was very excited about Rescheduling that. Paul Acosta versus Roman roman kopeloff, third time's the charm man and I would say not so much vintage paula costa, however a great performance by paula costa.
Speaker 3:those body shots were absolutely disgusting hitting them over and over again with the body and those leg kicks they really took. They took the gumption right out of Kapalov.
Speaker 1:Right out of Kapalov. I did have Kapalov as my pick on that one, so that was very surprising to me. What a surprising performance for Kapalov, and not in the good way. He found the right hand a couple times but, was not able to find the range against Paulo Costa Costa, who was baiting him a lot of the time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean hearing the discussion about Kopolov from DC and a few of the other commentators and stuff like that. I was expecting a better showing from.
Speaker 1:Kopolov Absolutely yes.
Speaker 3:But that said, it was great to see Costa really putting the work on him Absolutely. I mean, the last time we saw Costa fight it was kind of sad.
Speaker 1:Underwhelming, honestly Underwhelming.
Speaker 3:So it's just nice to see him back at it and really, really putting the work in.
Speaker 1:And I will add, he really, in my eyes, as a longtime fan, he really hasn't been the same since that loss to Adesanya, the viral loss where Adesanya humped him from behind and he really hasn't been the same, in my opinion, since then, putting up some very underwhelming performances and it's really nice to see Paolo Costa in the win column and winning decidedly unanimously in this case, and making Koppelhoff look like a scrub.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's good to see that for Costa, to see him regaining some confidence. Absolutely. And some of his old fire, if you will.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And not just the fire towards I'm going to Chimaev, chimaev, yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's actually what I was going to mention. Next was that call-out to Chimaev right at the end of that fight. That was a long call-out, too Long call-out Paulo Costa saying Chimaev DM my girl. So that's interesting.
Speaker 3:I mean, if that really happened that's kind of disgusting on Chimaev's part. I don't know the details.
Speaker 1:Nor do I want to look towards the details. That just gives me a little bit of the. In my opinion, yeah, however that is building up to be a very interesting fight of course we have chamaya fighting in august versus ddp, versus dracus. So let's, I mean I'm very excited for that. One more on that one later on, yeah, and then we move on to that amazing, extraordinary.
Speaker 3:Surprising in the sense that it didn't get at least performance of the night for that max holloway, dbmf, versus dustin the diamond poirier in his retirement fight honestly, I think the main reason it didn't get main or fight of the night is that everyone kind of knew what to expect out of both of them and they delivered pretty much exactly what you would expect based on prior, prior performances, and there wasn't like any like uh, oh my god, it was just yep. That's exactly what I expect to see out of these two awesome fighters oh my God.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Which isn't to denigrate the amount of skill and just awesomeness that they presented. It's just that it was fully expected, and so it wasn't a standout fight, if you will, relative to the rest of the night, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Uh. What did stand out to me was the sheer back and forth. I mean we got, uh, max holloway's uncrackable chin getting cracked in the second round, getting dropped yeah, and I had mentioned to you this off air. Was that the comments talking about Max Holloway, who has never been dropped before prior to that Toporia fight, getting knocked out from that and coming back from a knockout loss?
Speaker 1:and getting knocked by Poirier in the second round, cracking the uncrackable chin, as I stated earlier, in the second round. Yep, cracking the uncrackable chin, as I stated earlier. So it's just people doubting the chin that Max Holloway has now.
Speaker 3:Now I do want to just throw this out there that according to Holloway, he has been knocked down before.
Speaker 1:Yes, I have heard that one Versus Gaethje.
Speaker 3:Yep, but the UFC, for some reason didn't count it as a full knockdown? Yep, but the UFC for some reason didn't count it as a full knockdown. But uh, yeah, I mean it kind of, as I mentioned when you had mentioned this off air. It kind of seems like uh Holloway just has done away with his defensive training it's interesting, for sure. He used to be more bob and weave, if you will, it seemed to me, unless I'm misremembering, and throughout this whole fight he kind of just stood there and took it from Poirier.
Speaker 3:I mean, the fact that he could still take it is awesome. I mean it's amazing.
Speaker 1:It's not amazing for his health long term sure I mean, and I will add, one of the most interesting parts was the commentary by the coaching staff on Max Holloway's part was warning him not to go straight back, exactly, and one thing I had mentioned to you prior was that that was one of the weaknesses that he had in the Toporia fight.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Was the going straight back, which is where he got caught by Toporia and basically was the catalyst for that flurry at the end. If you will, that gave Toporia the TKO over Max and he kind of did the same thing in this one was the going straight back, thus getting caught by Dustin Poirier again in this one. I do hope that Max, you know, moves forward from this one. He is the BMF champion, the first to defend that BMF championship belt. I do hope he takes this and he learns that let's try not to go straight back, especially if you want to face that matador to porio again yeah which he does seem to have his eyes on revenge yeah, he definitely seems to be interested in that I.
Speaker 1:It's kind of a crazy story, background story between these two guys.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the the preceding fights, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean just the fact that Dustin Poirier was Max Holloway's first fight. Yep.
Speaker 1:Was his first time getting finished in the Octagon. And then that second fight was for the interim championship, which Dustin Poirier pulls out on that second fight, yep championship, which Dustin Poirier pulls out on that second fight. This was a what it felt like a must win for Max Holloway. He made it very clear in an interview with DC that he did not want to be the first fighter to lose in two trilogies to two different people, so I appreciated that yeah, he had a lot.
Speaker 3:He had a. Yeah, he had a lot of motivation.
Speaker 1:He had a lot of motivation in this one.
Speaker 3:To not get the loss.
Speaker 1:Exactly. I mean, like I said, amazing story, dustin Poirier taking his L's to him ending his 13-fight win streak, losing it to Dustin Poirier, and it's just a great story seeing these guys from first fight in the UFC to Dustin's last, yeah, and the amount of respect that these two fighters have had with each other.
Speaker 3:Yes, they have history, but the history wasn't one of animosity and hatred. It was just respect for how beastly they are. If you will, I do have to say that the numbers definitely were the main reason. I think that Holloway won, Because by damage Poirier should have won. Sure, I could see that. But yeah, I mean it was a good fight and I'm not upset that Holloway won by any stretch of the means, because he definitely put in the work.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:He wasn't just phoning it in and then just got the win randomly. He was really trying to put the work in on Poirier.
Speaker 1:He was trying to knock him out and one thing that very much so added more admiration for me towards Max Holloway was what he said at the end. He gave us a couple of his pieces, but he said this is not my moment, this is, uh, dustin Poirier's moment and that was Major respect, beautiful to see that we're not enemies in this cage, we are opponents, and I sincerely appreciate that from Max Holloway.
Speaker 1:I want to take the time to talk about Dustin Poirier's career, the legacy he leaves behind. Dustin Poirier's career, the legacy he leaves behind. Although never to be the lightweight undisputed belt, he did win the interim belt and to me, that makes him a champion.
Speaker 3:That's something I've never really understood. I've kind of mentioned it with Tom Aspinall. Aspinall, I've kind of mentioned it with Tom Aspinall. Yes, it might technically be an interim because of injury or what have you, but in that time no one else can beat them. That makes them a champion. I agree I don't think it should be given a qualifier of interim personally.
Speaker 1:That's an amazing point. I, too, kind of feel the same way. Besides championship, dustin Poirier's resume speaks for itself, speaks volumes. He's faced no one but the best and it's just. I mean, he has the most knockouts in the lightweight division. It was one of the most finishes in the UFC. And his story from humble beginnings, a hard knock life that he lived, coming from poverty, leaving high school in the ninth grade, if I'm not mistaken, and he makes his debut in 2011. And it was just. You knew that he was going to be something special. I knew that he was going to be someone special.
Speaker 3:I mean he's an amazing fighter, there's no two ways about it. I mean he's an amazing fighter, there's no two ways about it. I mean he fought so many, so many just absolute rock stars, if you will and he even kicked some other asses.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and I mean you can't poo-poo on that, realistically speaking, and you can't, and you could definitely say that he earned his moniker. The Diamond. It reflects Poirier's ability to shine under pressure, endure where through relentless wars that he's been in never cracked under pressure and always stood up tall in the moment, like I said, he holds the record for the most knockout wins in lightweight history. So many fight of the night awards and performances of the night bonuses.
Speaker 3:Only outshone on that by Holloway right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's just crazy to see and I like that he's setting himself up after retirement, becoming a businessman with his hot sauce which I haven't tasted yet, but I heard that he has a spicy one that puts you on your ass, boy.
Speaker 3:Well, I've honestly looked for it, but here in the western United States I haven't seen anywhere that sells it, so it seems like you're going to have to order it online for most of us throughout the states.
Speaker 1:And it's just amazing what he has done in the UFC. Very emotional retirement. He exits with a record of 30 wins, 10 losses and one no contest, 23 finishes, nearly 11 Fight of the Night honors and, honestly, is your favorite fighter's favorite fighter. He's a legend without the undisputed belt. Yep. And just a legend for what he's done throughout the UFC, and Dustin D Diamond Poirier is going to become one of the most unforgettable fighters in UFC history.
Speaker 3:I would have to agree. I would have to agree. I have to say he's probably the most respected non-superstar of the UFC that I'm aware of. Like, the only other people who are potentially more respected or on par with how respected he is are the superstars. And yeah, he might not be a superstar relative to some of them like, uh, pereira McGregor could be, you know stuff like that but he, he's. He's just pretty much universally respected by everybody, though Absolutely Universally loved.
Speaker 3:Did he have anybody that he ever had? Like real beef with Michael Chandler, michael Chandler.
Speaker 1:He calls him a dirty fighter. They actually I will mention a funny interview they did is if you had to be stuck alone in an island with a fighter conor mcgregor or michael chandler who would you pick? And very surprisingly, he kicked. He picked conor mcgregor and uh, he just does not want any part of michael chandler and I do believe the hatred is real, okay. And uh, you could even see, if you do look on tape, you look at the Dustin Poirier versus Michael Chandler fight, you could even see there was no respect towards the end, dustin Poirier basically saying that you're a dirty fighter. And when I'm in this octagon, this is my house and Michael Chandler was like hey man keep it cool.
Speaker 1:What did I do? If you watch the fight, you'll know what he did. I'll leave it at that. Uh, that's probably one of the only fighters, uh, basically, that he's really had a very bad interaction with, like that. Uh, other than that, like you stated, universally respected, I think, universally loved, beloved as a fighter. And also, I do want to add, besides being a fighter, he's actually an amazing person, very philanthropic and does amazing things outside of the octagon, oh yeah, uh, you know, from from donating to children, uh, to getting those thanksgiving turkeys and handing them out. It's just amazing work from Dustin Poirier. I hope that he's appreciated as a person as well as a fighter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think he is, I think he will be. I hope he has a lot of good success moving forward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and I do think that's what he's going for. It kind of seems like he's setting himself up for success, very poignantly stating he's retiring from the sport. I mean, they asked him several times you're only 36 years old, why are you retiring? And he stated poignantly I want to retire from the sport, I don't want the sport to retire me and I want to leave here with all my faculties intact.
Speaker 3:That's fully understandable. The number of fighters who did not get out when they still had their full faculties, despite having a family, is honestly really sad absolutely I mean, admittedly, some of them. It was very unexpected, when they had whatever injury, that stopped them, but uh, it's, it's a roll of the dice anytime you're in the octagon, realistically speaking yes, absolutely I mean it. It doesn't take much to cause irreversible damage to your noggin yeah, uh, the differences between combat sports and and other sports.
Speaker 1:It's uh, you're putting your life on the line every time you get in that cage and I do believe he just deserves to be honored and I do think that's what he's getting receiving.
Speaker 1:Not too many of the fighters get to go out on their shield and, as he stated, not too many fighters get to retire and not have the sport retire them yeah um, and that's the major things I wanted to say about this and poirier, besides being one of my favorite fighters of all time, and, uh, and I myself, I'm a very huge fan, so that was a very hard fight for me. I watched it with my hands in my eyes and I was, like you know, scared the whole time. Because I didn't want anyone to lose. But of course you know not all stories have a happy ending.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it honestly would have been even worse if it ended on a draw.
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3:Because then it would have just left them on an unknown you know. Yeah, everybody, including themselves, would probably want a rematch, absolutely. And then him retiring wouldn't be fully on his own terms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and who knows, maybe if he would have won, he would have been like I'm not f***ing leaving, I'm not leaving, in fact, toporia. He would have won. He would have been like I'm not f***ing leaving, I'm not leaving, in fact, toporia get over here. Anyway, I want to take the time to talk real quickly about some of these upcoming fights. Oh, for sure yeah, at the time of this recording, when this is released, the UFC Fight Night on July 26th would have be happening already. Amazing fight card. Uh, amazing fight card.
Speaker 3:Let me read this out to you guys very excited for at least one fight on there oh man, you got uh.
Speaker 1:You got Robert Whitaker. You got uh, it was Mosvar versus uh, aaron Pico. But I, you know, I guess he's out with injury.
Speaker 3:Oh, have they not been able to find a replacement? I don't think there's a replacement.
Speaker 1:I mean this is already, so I think they're going to push it forward to rescheduling. But man, I just want to say Evolov's got to do a little bit of a better job in training camps, because I think that's 9 or 11 fights that he's cancelled due to something.
Speaker 3:I'm not 100% on that seriously, yes, isn't this on Pico's side, though?
Speaker 1:no, this is on Evolove's side, injured in Thailand in some sort of training.
Speaker 3:I just want to say Evolove sounds like somebody needs to learn how to train properly let's stop getting injured and, uh, you know, if you keep canceling, then, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Uh, you got peter yan, one of my favorite fighters, also in this bantamweight bout versus marcus mcgee. How, how that happened. I have no clue how they put this fight together.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 13 versus third is a little odd yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's not the most odd but it is certainly odd.
Speaker 1:Let's see what Marcus McGee does against the versatility of Peter Yan. I don't know. I think that's going to be a crazy fight. And then you got Shara Magomedov, Shara Bullitt versus Marc-Andre Barrio.
Speaker 2:That should be a freaking banger right there, dude. Yeah, it should.
Speaker 1:That's going to be a freaking banger. You got Alma Baev versus Timurourov. You got nikita krylov versus guskov another banger right there. And even some of these uh prelims are pretty nasty. You got bryce mitchell versus saeed.
Speaker 3:Uh, never might get met off that'll be interesting to see if mitchell can come back. And, yeah, not let his last loss be a deterrent.
Speaker 1:All right, let's see what he does. What kind of improvements. You've got Salacon versus Carlos Leal another banger Davey Grant versus Blackshear, and you've got Amanda Rebus versus Tabitha Ricci Tabitha Ricci is a dog also, and I really hope that she pulls this one out. You got Aslan versus Alakana another banger and honestly, this is shaping up to be a very nice card. That is Saturday, july 26th, 1 pm Mountain Pacific time, obviously, and that's going to be in the Middle East. Actually, it's going to be in the United Arab Emirates.
Speaker 3:Yeah since the bullet can't do it almost anywhere else.
Speaker 1:If you see a card in the Arab Emirates, you might see the pirate on there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's likely to be on the card.
Speaker 1:You got August 2nd, al-bazi versus Tayyara, roman Deleuze versus Fluffy, for Hernandez on August 9th. And then we'll touch up on this one a little bit more closer to the date, but that UFC 319 card which is shaping up very nicely. First, with that main fight of the night, I'm very, very excited about this one Drikus Duplicy versus Hamza Chemaev. Finally we're going to see Hamza fight for the belt. Finally we're going to see him in the United States after so long of not being able to. Very fun fight happening in middleweight for that belt.
Speaker 3:It's definitely going to be interesting. They have very different styles and to see how they will combat each other will be interesting yes, absolutely yeah, it's just. It's just going to be interesting.
Speaker 1:Let's leave it at that saturday august 16, uh 8 pm, and that's in Chicago. You got Drikus versus Hamza Chamayev, you got Jeff Neal versus Carlos Prates, carlos Prates coming off of that loss to Ian Gary. So let's see what he does. And you got Jaron Kananir versus Michael Page. That one I'm interested in seeing, for sure, a Battle of the Old Head Unks. Old Head Unks huh.
Speaker 1:A Battle of the Unks. On that one you got tim elliott versus kaya sakura. Interesting to see kaya sakura uh after losing uh to pantoja for that belt yeah so it's gonna be interesting to see him. And then we got uh, in prelims we got King Green coming off that disgusting knockout loss to Mauricio Rufi of the Fighting Nerds with that spinning kick knockout Insane. Hopefully his head is screwed back on straight. By now? I would hope so by now.
Speaker 1:versus Diego Ferreira. You got Gerald Mearshart versus Olexaychik another fighting nerd, new fighting nerd and you got Jessica Andrade versus Lupe Godinez a banger right there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm kind of surprised to see that fight in the prelims.
Speaker 1:honestly, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:And then you got Chase the Gooner hooper versus alexander hernandez oh god, is he following in sean's footsteps with that or what he's? Just a gooner mcgee he looks like a gooner, not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm just gonna say, in the last win versus uh, versus jim miller, chase hooper said at the end he said, uh, yeah, my arms are kind of hurting because I was gooning so much. And then I changed the channel after that, edson Barbosa in the prelims versus Drakkar Klos wow, that's gonna be a f***ing banger.
Speaker 1:Edson Barbosa is a straight up animal and we got another great fighter after that I I mean before that Brian Battle versus Riz Bidev. Brian Battle let's see if he makes weight this time. If he makes weight and donates. The last fight he struggled with that and he did not make weight, not even close. So that should be an amazing card. Look out for that one. We'll talk a little bit more about that card a little bit, uh, later on oh, is that the fight?
Speaker 3:if I, if I'm trying, I'm trying to recall, is that the fight where he, he got uh, even if he won the, his opponent got part of his purse because of it, because of the. If he lost he would win a huge percentage.
Speaker 1:But even if he, won, he was still going to lose a significant portion of it Because he was off by so much and his opponent was still willing to meet him at that weight class. Let's see how that goes. That's going to be Saturday, august 16 in Chicago, 8 pm Mountain Pacific time, so be on the lookout for that one.
Speaker 3:I am very excited for this card, and then we'll go ahead and move on to those insane confessions and let's see if pressure makes diamonds let's see All right For most of our tests to see who will crack under the pressure or not, most of them will be pulled from True Off my Chest, just like this one which is posted by mbwill8809. Why I no longer try to help panhandlers. I was getting sandwiches for guys working on my house years ago, picked up eight meatball subs, panhandlers, homeless population standing at red lights. First woman said thanks and as I drove past I saw in my side mirror she took my fully wrapped and sticker sealed sandwich and pushed it right into the trash. Can she was?
Speaker 3:standing next to I could see she was shaking her head in disapproval. Why take the free brand new food and waste it if you didn't want it? Second send which was given to a young girl, maybe 20. Ask me what it was, as I'm handing it to her I said meatball sub toasted with just cheese. She opens it up. Then takes her filthy hands and opens the bread up like an envelope to, I guess, get an even closer look at it, hands it right back to me now in her hands all opened up and falling out of the wrapper, and says I'm good.
Speaker 3:I don't really like meatball. Why did you touch it all over then? Lol, sigh, trashed it after getting it back. Last sandwich was the craziest experience I've ever had Gave it to a guy I assume was a tweaker with a sign that said starving. Oh, wow. I'll take leftovers. I pull up, hand him the wrapped sandwich. He stares at it for a second, then fires it back into my window, hitting me and then across to my passenger seat and absolutely explodes. No way, oh my god happened.
Speaker 2:I whipped my seat belt off and truck door open to confront him and see he's fully sprinting down the street and in process of crossing the four lane intersection.
Speaker 3:I doubt I could have even caught him and wasn't interested in getting arrested for punching him out, so I just got back in my truck and went to the nearby car wash vacuum joint. After going to pet boys for carpet and seat cleaner spent the next 90 minutes trying to clean that mess as best I could. Zero out of three. Three sandwiches all cost me around ten dollars each. Sealed, wrapped, made fresh, no strings attached. Zero for three. This happened in 2009 and it was the last day I've ever cared about or tried to help homeless people.
Speaker 1:We're clearly not big fans of Jared from Subway, but I mean dude the sign literally said starving. Starving will take leftovers. Well, clearly he should have read the fine print. That was not a leftover. He should have taken a bite first. He should have. I guess what I don't want. This.
Speaker 3:Gives it back to him, takes a bite, all right, I'll take it, I want some of that sweet saliva from other people.
Speaker 1:Safe to say that this gentleman or this person cracked under the pressure of that one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he cracked understandably. Yeah, he cracked under the pressure of that one. Yeah, he cracked understandably. Yeah, he cracked under the pressure. I do have to say that what is it, 2009? Mm-hmm. Since then, so for 16 years, he has not helped another homeless person. I'd have to say that was a very full and unequivocal crack under the pressure with that and just to add a few comments.
Speaker 3:Susie Sophia had a much different experience with her interaction with the homeless and says I once bought a large package of several subs for a homeless guy once and as I walked away he he fed his dog first, which to me says what a thoughtful person he might be. I continued to help him for years and he is now off the streets. His dog, who I also got to know, was named Blender. So not everyone's going to have the same experience. Obviously I will admit that three in a row is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1:You know, maybe they were Jersey Mike's fans, I don't know. Man, that sucks, because obviously now he's like damn, I'm never going to help another homeless person ever.
Speaker 3:I'm just going to add real quick that you could only help the people who do want to be helped yeah and that's just something that some people learn the hard way I mean, it's really tough to be able to judge just from appearance how serious a panhandler is, because unfortunately most of them all look pretty similar and usually have pretty similar signs, and they'll. They'll write whatever they think is going to get the response out of people that they want absolutely yeah and uh, like.
Speaker 3:This commenter across the diverge had a uh, vaguely similar experience to the original poster and says my office is in an office park that's tucked back off of a main highway. There's a homeless camp in the trees inside the highway ramps. Every single day, there's homeless at all four intersections nearest the highway ramps. Every single day, there's homeless at all four intersections nearest the highway ramp.
Speaker 3:I see people handing them food all the time, just for it to be left totally unopened on the concrete wall. Full bottles of Gatorade and water, unopened bags of snacks, apples and bananas, bags of fast food. It just piles up and rots. Somebody occasionally drops off large trash bags and they get completely filled up with unused food and litter that ruins it for those that are actually hungry and in need. Now to address this comment, I do want to mention that that is honestly understandable, because if you're pan handling most of them are would really rather money, honestly, than food. But also they're sitting there on a busy road. How many people do you think are going to give them food, especially if their sign says something about being hungry? They're going to get 80 sandwiches a day or the equivalent thereof.
Speaker 3:You know, I mean potentially, depending on how busy yeah, depending on how busy and how long they stay out there. But even on the low side, imagine getting 15 15 items of food that are effectively a full meal. You're not going to eat all that and, uh, most of them, for the hope of getting money, are going to continue to sit out there even after they've gotten all the food they could possibly want. You know, because that's that's a big point and reason of panhandling. Yes, regardless of what your sign says is to get money right, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Who knows what they're going to do with that money if they do get it.
Speaker 3:One can only speculate and that's all the comments I'm going to say are really relevant.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's just comment after comment after comment, one way or the other, so let's just leave it at that and I got one that I'm gonna give a trigger warning for, okay, out of true off my chest, and uh, just reading this story made me break under the pressure. Oh no, oh no. Throwaway account.
Speaker 3:That's a good sign 7-7-6-5-11.
Speaker 1:My boyfriend's ex told me my boyfriend cheated on me and I believed her. I broke up with him and aborted our baby. Oh wow. She later told me she lied because she was jealous what a shocker that an ex would lie.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, that's just that's.
Speaker 1:That's just too unbelievable insanity, sorry, insanity, sorry my sarcasm came through a little strongly there.
Speaker 3:Unbelievable Insanity, sorry, insanity. Sorry, my sarcasm came through a little strongly there. Let's get to the post.
Speaker 1:I genuinely feel sick. I effed up so bad and it's my fault entirely. Me and my boyfriend were together for three years. He never did anything to make me think he was cheating on me at all, which makes us all so much worse. I knew he was still in contact with his ex interesting but he was completely open and transparent about everything. It was awkward for me and made me jealous. At first, I will admit, he offered to cut ties with her and everything, but I said no, I'd be fine, and eventually I admit I was less less than two months ago now I found out I was pregnant. Me and my boyfriend has spoken about starting a family and while this pregnancy wasn't entirely planned, we didn't take many precautions to stop it because we kind of wanted a kid anyway. I shared the news with everyone I knew basically straight away, which was probably my biggest mistake. I posted it on Instagram, facebook, all social medias and told my family and friends. I was really excited.
Speaker 1:A few days after I told everyone, I got a dm on instagram from his ex saying she needs to tell me something huge and she can't let me go on without knowing I asked what it was and she told me she and my boyfriend were actively sleeping together and the fact that I'm so happy about starting a family with him made her feel guilty and made her decide to tell me. I didn't believe her at first, but she sent me screenshots of text between them and they were very lovey. He was saying stuff like I love you, baby, in quotation marks, a lot and stuff like that. And arranging to meet and stuff in quotation marks, a lot and stuff like that. And arranging to meet and stuff. The way the texts were is exactly how he texts and for some reason I did believe her without talking to him or anything. Wow, I confronted him when he got home from work and he denied it and we ended up arguing a lot and he said he didn't want to be in a relationship where he is entrusted and left. Next day he messaged me asking to talk and I ignored him. He kept trying to message me and I told him to stop. We are done. I didn't want to hear any excuses.
Speaker 1:I was devastated. I just found out I was starting a family with a man I loved and he turned out to be cheating on me, or so I thought I didn't want a baby on my own and the sadness and anger caused me to take a stupid decision and I got a termination. I didn't know how to feel afterwards. I regretted it a bit, but I took all the pills. Anyway, about four days passed. I get another dm from her saying exactly this. By the way, those texts were fake. He told me. Y'all broke up and I feel kind of bad, lol, laughing emoji.
Speaker 1:I asked her if he put her up to this and she said no and she can show me proof if I wanted. I said give it to me. She sent me uncrowded screenshots of the conversation she sent me. She used a fake text app to create them. They looked so legit I actually believed them. I spent so long inspecting both the cropped and uncropped versions Trying to find a difference, but they were identical the time at the top, battery percentage, punctuation, everything.
Speaker 1:I asked her why the F? She lied and she said again exactly this I wanted him and when you got pregnant I knew my chance was gone unless I got you out of the picture. I was pissed but asked why is she telling me the truth? Now? She's done all this shit and it doesn't make sense. And she said I tried to link up with him yesterday and he blew up at me telling me to get lost and that we're never getting back together and that he hates me. You're innocent in all of this, so I thought I'd just let you know. I called her a lot of names and stuff because I was so freaking pissed and she replied god forbid, god forbid. A girl tries to do the right thing, laughing my ass off, oh God, and blocked me.
Speaker 3:Wow, can you be any more toxic? There might be a reason why this person's an ex.
Speaker 1:I messaged my boyfriend straight away and apologized, and he left me on read for a few hours. I kept messaging him and he kept ignoring me over and over again. And then he asked me oh, no turnabout.
Speaker 1:And then he asked me why I believed her. I told him I don't know, but some insecurities I didn't know I had about them still being friends came out when she told me that he was cheating on me and I just flipped. I practically begged him to forgive me. Me and I just flipped. I practically begged him to forgive me and he said he doesn't think we can work out anymore because it's obvious I don't trust him and trust is a huge part in relationships but he'll still be there for the kid. I didn't have the heart to tell him, but I kept telling him it'll never happen again and I'm really sorry I ever doubted him and he eventually said he'll give us one more try later down the line. I haven't told him yet and I've been playing along as if I'm still pregnant.
Speaker 3:Nope, relationship's already over and it'll never work out. Now, sorry, sorry, I should've let you finish. Keep going.
Speaker 1:I don't know how he hasn't noticed yet. I really have to tell him soon. I'm working up the courage to do it. I'm planning to tell him tomorrow. I just wanted to tell someone I don't know in real life so they can tell me how stupid I was.
Speaker 3:Wish me luck real quick question how long ago was this posted? 21 minutes ago okay, so definitely no updates on this one maybe we'll give an update later oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh, my god what the I told? Oh my god. What the f-.
Speaker 1:I told you trigger warning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm triggered, I'm triggered on several levels. On that I was triggered too, wow. Wow.
Speaker 1:A lot to take in.
Speaker 3:Man, there's so much to unpack on that one.
Speaker 1:Insane.
Speaker 3:Like it's. It's crazy. Like it's crazy. Like I understand, there's a lot of people out there who have not taken communication as a serious aspect of their life. Is there any mention of their age? I can't remember.
Speaker 1:Let's see no mention of their age. I can't remember. Let's see no mention of the age no, Okay.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm just going to assume they're young, right, even if they're not just wow, but for anyone listening, it's a good idea to not confront someone about something so big and then have that one confrontation conversation. Be what, you base your decisions off of.
Speaker 1:Absolutely I agree with that.
Speaker 3:This man came home presumably from a day of work and gets confronted as if it's fact that he's cheating on her and no matter what he says, he's not believed. That's sad. Unless you're a good communicator and you've kind of figured this sort of stuff out ahead of time, you're not going to react well in the moment to allegations like that, to being confronted and not calmly asked about this stuff, you know. Right.
Speaker 3:And If she waited for him to get home, then she had presumably I'm just going to presume here More than an hour Probably passed between Receiving of this text and the confrontation. That's a lot of time to stew Good point, and when you're stewing, you're just getting more and more angry and you're not going to be addressing the situation properly.
Speaker 1:In the right mind.
Speaker 3:And then to go off of that one interaction and then go so far as to terminate the baby you were so excited for is insane. It's insane. Wow.
Speaker 3:Wow, I mean, that's high school behavior. In my opinion, that's the emotional immaturity of a high schooler, in my experience. Anyway, Very sad scenario I mean, it's just wild, this person folded like a wet paper towel. There's no forming of a diamond here at all. They're very, very far from it. Pressure broke them, and then they don't even have the gall and honesty, or they have the gall to be dishonest, actively dishonest, about the baby they terminated. Absolutely.
Speaker 3:You can't. That relationship is doomed already. I mean, you actively believed someone else over them and then you made such rash decisions and refused to communicate after the fact, and now you're wanting back under the false pretense that the baby is still there. He's not going to have any trust for this person once he finds out. This is not going to have any trust for this person once he finds out this is a he's not going to have any trust for this person whatsoever you can't no, you can't rebuild after that.
Speaker 1:Just that I mean it seems like we both have the same opinion that they have to seek other measures for that. I do want to take the time to read one of the more interesting comments by trick__delivery4609. Oh honey, I am so sorry. You absolutely have to tell him grieve with him, go to a therapist. You may not be able to fix your relationship with him, but by seeing a therapist you will fix what issues you have and can help your future relationships a lot. I'm sorry. This was very painful lesson for you and I am so sorry for your loss.
Speaker 1:Another commenter sorry abbreviation says you did what on a rumor and another person which actually comes up with a great point is artistic. Nobody says she was extremely hormonal. Don't try and paint this out as something. It's not.
Speaker 3:I could understand the hormonal part because of the pregnancy, but the rash decisions, as you said, there wasn't enough thought process behind that here's's the thing, though yes, she's technically hormonal, but she is far, far away from being as hormonal as most people are thinking of when they think of pregnancy hormones. She's barely. She was barely pregnant at this point. She just found out what two weeks before she got the text from the ex.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, oh, you're asking how far along she was. Yeah. I believe it does say that she was two months. Oh, two months, okay, yes, yes, it does say that just less than two months ago, I found out I was pregnant so not even two months yet and wow, yeah.
Speaker 3:No, I'm sorry, but at that yes, you do. The hormones are changing, don't? Get me wrong. I'm not dismissing it, but the level of hormones are significantly less than most people consider pregnancy hormones sure it's I. I mean, I'm not going to say that that point's invalid, but there's a lot less validity than I think they're attributing to it.
Speaker 1:Sure, absolutely, and I don't want to speculate on that for sure.
Speaker 3:The first commenter did have a good point. Yeah. And they probably sat for a few seconds and calmed down. This is me just reacting off the cuff.
Speaker 1:On the moment, which shows the audience that we do not rehearse these stories and I like to surprise.
Speaker 3:This is my first time reading this story or hearing this story.
Speaker 1:I like to shock you as much as how shocked I am.
Speaker 3:And yeah, if I'd had a few minutes to sit down I would have been a little more reasoned.
Speaker 1:And again I will point out that I wasn't trying to give advice in this mindset Because this is some crazy advice to give, but the consensus here, in my opinion and from the opinions of the Redditors and commentators, seems to be the relationship will not recover from this trust.
Speaker 3:It's great learning. It can be a great learning.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know about great learning, but this is definitely a learning experience.
Speaker 3:Great in the sense that it will show the necessity of communication, of communication, yeah, Because Major factor in this. If you don't communicate, horrific things can happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like you terminating the baby you were ever so supposedly excited for. Yeah, and a lot of the comments, and then lying about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, lying about it is absolutely horrible. Comments saying that this is something that is not easy to get over and more than likely, some mental help will be needed after this.
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Maybe for both parties involved in this.
Speaker 3:Honestly, both of them need therapy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Because for one this was a traumatizing experience very traumatizing and two. Both of them need to work on communication and unless you're really dedicated to learning about communication, therapy is a pretty decent or can be a pretty decent avenue to learn effective communication yeah, effective coping.
Speaker 1:Um, obviously they're going to have to see someone for grieving. Uh, and it's just uh, a very sad story. Uh, pressure did not make diamonds in this situation. Pressure broke the diamond and the pressure broke me and now I'm triggered.
Speaker 3:Yes, so again I'm going to have to say the overall take out or take away from this is communication, communication, communication.
Speaker 1:Don't forget communication.
Speaker 3:And don't forget communication. There's all sorts of other things to add, but that would that would be a whole episode or none of its own. So, moving on, I have one that is also potentially triggering for those who have been through abuse.
Speaker 3:So also off of true off my chest by old friendship six, two, seven, one, seven one. My mother died and I don't miss her. I feel relieved. When I got the call that my mom had passed, I didn't cry. I just sat there in the kitchen quietly finishing my coffee while my husband watched me waiting for a reaction, and then I just said okay and started the dishes. She had been sick for a while, so technically it wasn't unexpected. But the real truth is that my grieving started years ago when she told 14 year old me that I ruined her life by being born, when she screamed that I was just like my waste of space, father and that she should have aborted me when she used when she used to twist the truth so badly that I started to question my own memories.
Speaker 3:She wasn't physically abusive, but mentally she destroyed me in ways I'm still untangling in therapy today oh, wow she made me feel like loving her was a burden I owed her, and even then it was never enough. So no, I don't miss her. I'm not mourning, I'm relieved. For the first time in my life, I don't feel that gnawing anxiety that she might call or show up or guilt me into another emotional breakdown. I'm free, and yet I still feel guilty for feeling this way, like I've broken some rule about what children should feel when their mother dies. But this is my truth and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.
Speaker 1:Wow, talk about pressure.
Speaker 3:Talk about pressure. Talk about pressure.
Speaker 1:A lot to unpack in this one. It's very difficult to live a life when you feel so burdened and when someone makes you feel this way, makes you feel less than my takeaway is. I am glad that this person is seeking the help um it is good to hear that they're in therapy, because this is not something that you can take with you in life and still bury deep. You know, as we know, when you bury something so traumatic like this in your life, you tend to explode. You tend to live life dragging you down.
Speaker 3:There is innumerable lessons that you must unlearn.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:That you must learn the correct responses for the correct thought processes even.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:And your self-worth is effectively non-existent, or certainly can be effectively non-existent in an environment like that. I'm going to mention that, at least for me, this was close to home. Growing up, I went through pretty similar circumstances, except added with the physical abuse. It wasn't just the mental, emotional. Sure.
Speaker 3:But the the physical abuse is honestly easier to get over Like legitimately it is easier to get over than the mental and emotional abuse, especially when it's constant and so extreme when you are told that you are not worth it, when you are told that you shouldn't even exist, your existence is a burden, an unwanted burden, and they don't even know why they're keeping you around. Basically, it's tremendously difficult to get over that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:And even when you think you have gotten over it, you still come across things that will trip you up in a normal conversation with someone who's close to you, because you'll say something or they'll say something as if it's normal and it's the complete opposite for you or for them it's. It's just. It's tremendously damaging and I have to say this person they didn't break absolutely I don't think they broke I don't think so either.
Speaker 3:I think they came out and stayed the diamond. They might be flawed. They might have a weird discoloration in their formation, if you will.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Or oddly formed, if you will. But yeah, I mean, it's that one's tough.
Speaker 1:That one's absolutely tough.
Speaker 3:And I don't think people like that are not worth missing as a notable figure within your life other than as a formative figure in your life. And even then, it's okay to not miss people who were unapologetically, effectively evil to you when they apologize. If they apologize, that's one thing. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:But when you have to live in fear or anxiety, as they put it, that they're going to get in contact with you, I mean that's not a good relationship, that's not a good basis of a relationship of any sort. Absolutely not and, yeah, honestly I think, totally justified in not missing this person. They were a birth giver and other than that, they half-ass raised them and everything else is on the poster for growing up. And I mean, obviously they're married, said their husband and working on their life and yes, trying to move forward. Moving forward.
Speaker 1:So major props. Major props You're a diamond.
Speaker 3:You might still be in the rough, but you're a diamond, you're a diamond.
Speaker 1:You might still be in the rough, but you're a diamond.
Speaker 3:You're a diamond absolutely, and you will shine one day, especially since you're actively working on getting better.
Speaker 1:And that was amazingly poignant, harley, I really appreciate that. Appreciate you telling us your story and how life's difficulties can definitely be a detriment to you. Very poignantly stated that physical abuse sometimes is you know.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I'm not trying to downplay it at all.
Speaker 1:You know it's a far cry from you know, living a happy life. However, I have heard prior that the physical scars do fade, but the emotional scars, sometimes they're forever. They're difficult, they're difficult to surpass. Like I stated prior, I'm very, very glad that this person is seeking the help, is seeking to speak with someone about their difficulties, is seeking to move forward, is seeking to move forward, and those are the things that I personally feel make this person.
Speaker 1:Make OP a diamond in this case, yeah, and whether or not, whether or not a diamond in the rough, I believe they still shine. And this is my advice to anyone is just talk to someone, because sometimes just talking it out does help, and I know that from personal experience that life is definitely not without its difficulties. But, to quote Rocky, it's not about how you get hit, it's about how you get hit and get back up Absolutely, and props to OP for moving forward. Are there any pertinent comments to that one?
Speaker 3:I mean, there's a lot of comments largely saying things like her feelings are valid and sorry about your past, or corroborating similarly like I did. I too had a very similar situation and I feel you and a lot of the things I just said, honestly, uh, yeah, so nothing, nothing that really stands out I should say, other than there's something here in, uh, by systemic revulsion, and it says if she'd really wanted to be missed, she should have behaved better in life and been a better mother.
Speaker 3:Your feelings are valid absolutely which is an interesting way to look at it.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to say that's the healthiest way sure because nothing healthy about this scenario well, going to therapy is healthy yeah absolutely.
Speaker 3:But uh, getting past the blame and the anger, it's not healthy to hate. So long as the feelings don't dip into hatred, I think it's a reasonable and potentially healthy response. Sure.
Speaker 3:To be relieved. To a certain extent, I would say In my own philosophic sense, I think it can be sad. It should be considered a little sad that the mother died without having grown as a person beyond this point, without having gotten to the point where she realized that she had done damage and tried to, at the very least, apologize for it. I think that would have been obviously better.
Speaker 3:Right better, right, but I mean, I I understand the, if you look at it from a cold hard, just uh, cold hard truth standpoint of it. This person only caused damage, or at least only caused damage in the view that we can see, and so good riddance if you will, you will. But it doesn't sound like the person's going the full good riddance standpoint, other than just relieved that she doesn't have to deal with it anymore. Sure.
Speaker 3:I do have to say that, therapy or no, the fact that her mother even could contact her is unfortunate. In my view, that should have been a situation that had been cut off long since. But then again, I don't know how young this person is I don't know the situation. Maybe she only found out about the death through a third party and only knew about the sickness through a third party and it wasn't direct, but I mean, there's so much that could be gone into on this just like many of the things we read about, but I think we should probably leave it at that.
Speaker 3:Most of the comments are mostly along the same veins.
Speaker 1:Absolutely and very deep story. Absolutely and very deep story, and I hope that some of the listeners can take away some, at least some good advice that to seek some help is a good thing. Yeah, don't be ashamed to seek help. I'll go ahead and kick it off to our last story. Hopefully it's not as deep, but it's a pretty interesting story nonetheless.
Speaker 1:By uh, in true off my chest, it's by minimum staff 5634, top one percent poster oh boy title is I had to kick out my brother out of my house because he wouldn't stop pretending to be disabled. Mmm.
Speaker 3:Oh that this one's going to get under my skin. This one's going to get under my skin. I can tell already, go on.
Speaker 1:It begins. My brother, 38 male, faked a back injury for six years dedication at first I believed him.
Speaker 1:Everyone did. He wore a brace, walked slow, grunted when he sat down. He applied for disability but got denied multiple times, probably because he could still play soccer with his friends and sneak in late gym sessions. Last year, after our mom passed away, I let him move in temporarily because he was in too much pain to keep working. Then he installed grab bars in my bathroom and told people I was his full-time caregiver. I came home once and found him playing VR boxing Like literally punching the air and sweating. The final straw was when I took a work call on Zoom and heard him screaming I can't walk, walk. In the background. He later told my boss, who he bumped into at the store, that he had a spinal injury and I help him get to the toilet. That was a lie. I never helped him do anything. I told him to pack his stuff and go. Now my family's mad at me. They say I'm heartless, but I spent two years watching someone literally scam me and now I'm the bad guy.
Speaker 3:Just real quick remind me of the time frame. When did the brother move in?
Speaker 1:It does say last year, year after our mom passed away, I let him move in temporarily and um, so I would say at least like a year and a half so yeah, I mean bare minimum, pretty much probably a year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, likely close to a year and a half wow, wow, wow, wow. Likely close to a year and a half Wow. Wow, wow, wow. I loathe people that do that sort of thing. The disability programs are there for a reason and I'm very glad this person has been denied. So many do go ahead and get put on disability for minor or non-existent issues. But uh, wow, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm struggling with anger right now, trying, trying to put it put together a cohesive thought without sounding crazy I'm gonna have to say, just off the cuff, though, that I don't know if we can consider this person a full diamond, but, uh, I think. I think they could definitely be considered a diamond in the rough, because they they did. They finally saw the writing on the wall. Clearly, there was more than a few occasions where the writing was on the wall preceding this but, they did finally take note.
Speaker 3:Uh, I should also note that, as for family being upset, I can understand that because they haven't been exposed to all the things this person has. That said, I think that the original poster should definitely be putting together uh, effectively in a dossier, if you will just just write it all out. Write it, read out all the inconsistencies, the clear-cut evidence, oh wow, that this, this uh person, their brother, is full of it. The vr boxing bro bro, VR boxing gym sessions had me dead.
Speaker 1:Soccer.
Speaker 3:Lying, actively lying, to people yes. That he's a full-time caregiver for his brother.
Speaker 1:That is kind of crazy and that. Why would he do that?
Speaker 3:And lying to their. I mean, how do you not expect that to get back to the person You're lying to their boss? Like the boss is never going to mention this in casual conversation, that you help them to the toilet, that is crazy. Like that's never, ever going to get brought up like, oh my god, op you, you are such a stunning example of generosity and humanity taking care of your brother, even even just full-on, taking him to the restroom.
Speaker 3:Blah, blah, blah blah or even, you know, just hinting at it, if you will, and then and then opiate clarifying, but little did they know this gentleman's playing soccer how brazen do you have to get in your lies to get to the point where You're? You're doing that Like it's not going to come back to haunt you. You know what tangle webs we weave when we practice to deceive. Absolutely, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I believe those were Aristotle's words.
Speaker 3:I don't think so Anyway, anyway, it wouldn't have rhymed in uh greek.
Speaker 1:I know op is feeling the pressure right now. Who knows if they'll become a diamond or not? Uh, one of the comments is uh kind of has your take as far as the parents go? But um, lady zafira comment says no, you are not. He's taking advantage of you and telling lies to those around you. Tell the family members who are upset at you that if you kicking him out bothers them so badly, they can take them in. And another comment that was pretty interesting was about someone who had to do something similar in their own life. Elegant pressure to 90 says I had to cook, kick my alcoholic father out my house about 10 years ago and I recommend you tell your family the same thing I told mine. Anyone who wants to complain is welcome to take him in and support him for the length of time that I did and then come back and tell me I'm cruel for making him leave. Not surprisingly, there was no takers. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Yep Mm-hmm. Yep, I haven't supported any family members or friends who have similar situations happening. Maybe not quite so blatant, if you will, mm-hmm, but I've certainly seen the effects of others doing so absolutely and it from a young age noticing these things. It made me realize that unless lives are on the line, like actively and truly, you can't. You can't if there's even the inkling that the person is lying, is being toxic, what?
Speaker 3:whatever you, whatever you want to call it, whatever the exact terminology will be for what situation you're dealing with directly, sure, but I mean it's, it's incredibly trying on your mental health and from there leading into your physical health absolutely and your relationships with everyone who know the two of you, because even once you do kick them out, no matter what you say, they're going to be spinning their yarn against you and people who are in those situations, who are acting that way, like the brother is sure who's actively lying and putting on a show for years, six years, was it six?
Speaker 3:years yeah people who are that invested in in doing that are going to be screaming from the rooftops to anyone who will listen about how horrible you are, and they will be doing it constantly, especially since I don't think he has a job, given that he needed to be supported by a family member and is constantly trying to get disability. So that person has all the time in the world to be bitching and all the energy in the world to be bitching to anyone who will listen?
Speaker 2:Yeah absolutely, and he will do it over and over and over.
Speaker 3:So unless you can present clear-cut evidence, honestly what that commenter said, you're welcome to attempt to do what I just did. Absolutely and not kick them out, but I mean it. It's best to avoid those situations. For anyone listening it's it's it's really best to avoid those situations absolutely, and that's an amazing point no matter how kind you are, there are some people that are literally just there to leech off of you.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:You can't help people who don't want to be helped.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and there are some people that take your kindness for weakness and take advantage of you, and for that kind of thing you have to put your gloves up, man. Uh, just like uh, this disabled gentleman quote-unquote disabled put his gloves up in vr boxing man, bro, what an interesting scenario. Um, I'll end it at uh, with the point that I do believe this person will become a diamond eventually, uh, but right now he's feeling the pressure most definitely, and we'll go ahead and end the episode there. Harley, uh, don't forget to like and subscribe, and don't forget to comment on this episode on uh, which story you think really became a diamond in the rough and which one cracked under the pressure?
Speaker 3:Yes, definitely, and just to corroborate, we really would appreciate any likes, shares or follows. It really does help us grow and it helps us get suggested to others and new people, so any of that would be very appreciated. Thank you, guys, and until next time, keep your gloves up and let's stay out of trouble, y'all.
Speaker 1:Catch you on the next one.
