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The UFC landscape has been completely transformed by two major developments – Khamzat Chimaev's dominant championship victory and a historic $7.7 billion media rights deal with Paramount.
Chimaev's systematic dismantling of Dricus Du Plessis at UFC 319 sent shockwaves through the middleweight division. Over five rounds, the Chechen-born fighter showcased his world-class wrestling, placing DDP in multiple crucifix positions while landing an astonishing 529 strikes. What made this performance particularly stunning wasn't just Chimaev's dominance, but Du Plessis' apparent lack of preparation for a gameplan everyone knew was coming. With no effective counter to Chimaev's signature double-leg takedowns, the former champion appeared hopelessly outmatched, leading commentators and fans alike to question his fight camp's strategy.
Beyond the main event, UFC 319 delivered extraordinary moments including back-to-back spinning elbow knockouts from Carlos Prates and Lerone Murphy – marking the ninth and tenth such finishes in UFC history. Michael Venom Page also dazzled in his unanimous decision victory over Jared Cannonier, showcasing his unorthodox style and even "dribbling" his opponent at one point, drawing comparisons to Michael Jordan.
Perhaps even more significant than these in-cage developments is the UFC's groundbreaking $7.7 billion deal with Paramount. This seven-year agreement will fundamentally change how fans consume UFC content, eliminating the $80 pay-per-view model in favor of a subscription service likely costing around $7.99 monthly. All 13 marquee events and 30 fight nights annually will be available through Paramount+, with select events simulcast on CBS. Dana White has confirmed this influx of capital will directly benefit fighters through increased pay and bonuses – addressing a longstanding criticism of the organization.
As we look toward the future, who can challenge Chimaev's reign? With potential contenders like Nassourdine Imavov, Caio Borralho, Reinier de Ridder, and Anthony Hernandez on the horizon, and Chimaev himself eager to defend his title as soon as October, the UFC's new era promises unprecedented excitement both inside and outside the octagon. Subscribe now and join us as we navigate this transformative period in mixed martial arts history.
Welcome back to Peak Points. This episode is going to be all UFC talk. Going to be all UFC talk. We have lots of news, lots of upcoming events and two past events, both of which were very interesting in their own ways, with lots to talk about for each.
Speaker 2:And with that, let's get into the Octagon. Oh yeah, dude, we got a lot to talk about. I mean that UFC 319 card was incredible, but we'll start by talking about some of these past events that I watched, Specifically that fight night between Roman Deleuze and Anthony Hernandez.
Speaker 1:There were some good fights that night.
Speaker 2:Good fights on that card and I'll start with some of the prelims. That was August 9th, so that was a couple weeks back, but still amazing, in my opinion, got those prelims Cody Brundage versus Maconico and Maconico gets that win on Cody Brundage. And then we have Fernandez versus Starley Rinko. Fernandez gets that win, medic against Orbenia gets that knockout on him.
Speaker 1:In round one.
Speaker 2:He needed a medic. After that one Edwards versus Cachoria Edwards takes that one by KO.
Speaker 1:That is the first time I've seen a fighter from Panama.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:That I've noticed was from Panama.
Speaker 2:anyway, yeah, yeah that's a good point. I mean there's not too many active from that side. We got Smith versus Kazama Smith getting a nasty knockout, so there was a lot of finishes on this card, man.
Speaker 1:At least in the prelims, for sure, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Julius Walker, Sicaria. Julius Walker gets that unanimous decision. Eric Anders versus Duncan Duncan gets that nasty win.
Speaker 1:Round one.
Speaker 2:Another knockout dude. I'm telling you it's been finishes on this card, which is kind of amazing to see, in my opinion, from an Apex card, because a lot of people complain about them being kind of lame, right In this case. I've seen back back to back amazing apex cards, very surprising to see. Yeah, uh, miles johns matamuto matamoto gets a split decision, but, um, I think he did deserve that win. Then we had andreely Versus Christian Rodriguez. Andre Feely gets that split decision. I'm really great Andre Feely won that one. He's kind of been on the slit. After that, yasmin Lucindo Versus Angela Hill. That was actually a great women's strawweight fight. I really enjoyed that one.
Speaker 1:I did see that one. Yeah, it was. It was pretty good.
Speaker 2:It was pretty active. Then we had Steve Ersig versus Oday Osborne. A lot of people said that Oday had a massive speed advantage on Ersig and he definitely did Ersig. It took him a round to actually get kind of comfortable with it and come up with a different strategy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ersig, that seems to be his play style. He plays it super safe and just kind of pays attention to what they're doing the first round, and then he puts together what he's going to do and then he really starts pulling it out after the first round.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it seems to be that way it seems to be that way, seems to be that way.
Speaker 1:The last three fights, I think, is what I really noticed him doing it in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, except for that Kaikara France fight where he got knocked the F out. Well, yeah. But he does seem to have an amazing corner that they definitely are really good at analyzing at the moment and giving him a strategy to come up with the rest of the fight. He ended up dominating O'Day Osborne, winning by unanimous decision. So great on Steve Ersig and great to see Steve Carell get a win. I mean Steve Ersig, Steve Carell.
Speaker 1:I was like did he get a nickname that I wasn't aware of, or what I?
Speaker 2:don't know. He likes to say that. They like to say, like you kind of look alike, like Steve Carell, and he says, I don't know, have you ever seen us in the same room together? Which he's right, I've never seen him in the same room together.
Speaker 1:Don't need to either.
Speaker 2:After that, we had an absolute domination by Fluffy Anthony Hernandez against Roman Deleuze.
Speaker 2:It just seemed like he could do anything to Roman and this was an amazing fight to put at middleweight because it's it's putting a lot of chips on the table right now, which, uh, we'll talk later about what what kind of is going to happen with this division, because who knows but amazing performance by Anthony Hernandez, basically big brothering Roman De Lidze, which is incredible they're calling Fluffy Hernandez the middleweight marab which is an ultimate, I think, compliment to his work ethic, to his cardio and to his grappling, because he was throwing Roman around and if you look at Roman, he is not a small guy at all.
Speaker 1:No, he's not small.
Speaker 2:He's bigger than Anthony Hernandez and he was just drag-dolling him around, just rag-dolling him around, especially that submission where he grabbed him by the neck and almost pulled him to the middle of the freaking octagon. Just pulled him by the neck. Amazing performance by Anthony Hernandez and a lot of people calling for him to be a challenger on that top five. So we'll see.
Speaker 1:It's potentially interesting. Certainly that might need a little more development before he's a true champion contender, but I think he could definitely work his way higher yeah, absolutely certainly with it with his current skill set that I've seen yeah, amazing skill set, uh, and gas tank. I will say Gas tank is definitely a big aspect. Crazy.
Speaker 2:He didn't look tired at all after all that. And then we move on to that UFC 319 card and I'm rubbing my hands together because I'm scheming. I'm scheming about what's going to happen in that middleweight after what we just saw.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And we'll just start off with the early prelims. I watched every single fight on this card. Early prelims was a ultimate fighter, basically to see who wins the ultimate fighter. Chael Sonnen winning the Ultimate Fighter as the coach, with Joseph Morales choking out Alibi Ediris and what an amazing, because look at the odds on that one Minus 455 plus 350.
Speaker 1:So it was kind of a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean Joseph Morales pulled out that choke out of nowhere and I was very excited to see he's actually returning to the UFC. You know he was in the UFC a couple years back. Really. For whatever reason, didn't go that way and he ended up fighting somewhere else, Joseph Morales coming out on that Ultimate Fighter and is now 2025's Ultimate Fighter.
Speaker 1:Interesting. I didn't know that about his backstory.
Speaker 2:And then we got the prelim cards Karim Silva versus Dion Barbosa, and that was another great fight. We had a lot of ground game on that one, karim Silva pulling out the unanimous decision this one surprised me Edson Barbosa versus Drakkar Klos. Drakkar getting that unanimous decision. I guess he was a lot more active and I guess his hits did hit harder.
Speaker 1:Why was it surprising, though?
Speaker 2:I really thought that Edson Barbosa was going to utilize those kicks a lot better that he's known for. But I mean, I don't know. He got clinched up a lot and ended up taking a lot of damage some of those rounds in the clinch.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you're more surprised that Barbosa didn't do better About Edson Barbosa's performance. Yeah, Gotcha.
Speaker 2:Whether or not he would have got the decision or not. I think that's something that you should have earned in the cage personally. And then we got Chase the Gooner Hooper versus Alexander Hernandez. I'm sure you're kind of happy about this outcome, because he got knocked the F out on that one dude.
Speaker 1:Which is good. Maybe he'll do less gooning.
Speaker 2:Maybe he'll do less gooning. Maybe he'll do less gooning. His hands were hurting, I'm sure. I mean, dude, you gotta save yourself for for these fighters like this, because hernandez was not messing around, dude, and it was actually a check hook that that took him out, which?
Speaker 1:was. He laid him out for lady man nasty he. He took him a minute to get up.
Speaker 2:It took him a minute.
Speaker 1:Actually, he didn't even get up in time for the announcement, did he?
Speaker 2:The ref decided to, I guess, just stop it right then. And there it looked like Chase Hooper was getting up.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I mean when they did the announcement and raised the hand, I don't think he was even up yet.
Speaker 2:He was probably gooning.
Speaker 1:In his daydreams he was still in loopy land, loopy goony land.
Speaker 2:Loopy goony land. He was just gooning it up. Speaking of gooning, we had Jessica.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, no. Versus Loopy Gudinez. Don't. Don't include gooning into the women's fight. No, don't include Gertie into the women's fight.
Speaker 2:no, Amazing performance by Lupi Gudinez. I kind of saw this one coming.
Speaker 1:She wins a unanimous decision. She was doing surprisingly well. I was fully expecting Andrade to actually win. Yeah, absolutely. Especially after it seemed like she was gaining her wind back on that last round, round three. It looked like she was really going to pull out the win and she was going to knock her out, but Lupi held in there and she pulled out a good win.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Amazing performance by Lupi. And then we had a middleweight bout, gerald Mearshart versus Mikhail Olasechik, the new fighting nerd.
Speaker 2:And it looks like that fighting nerd camp is doing wonders for Mikhail. Another knockout for Mikhail and that's back-to-back knockouts for him, and he's up there for the most first-round finishes, dude, which is kind of crazy. Some of the most first-round knockouts, which is kind of crazy to me. Mikhail Oleksiychik pulls out that nasty knockout in the first round actually. So I think it was an amazing performance and I think he's very happy where he's at right now with the Fighting Nerds.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, which I mean. It's not to detract from the fact that he was clearly doing quite well prior to the Fighting Nerds, but I think the Fighting Nerds has really helped him refine some of his techniques. It's crazy. And make it just make it slightly more effective.
Speaker 2:What an amazing team they have out there.
Speaker 1:Clearly, they've only lost one right, only one since their inception.
Speaker 2:It was Carlos Protes that he lost recently to. Ian, gary, we'll talk more about that later, but we'll move on to another middleweight bout. I just want to say this guy Suzakayev, who pulled out another finish. I saw him this past Tuesday on the Dana White white contender series which he took on four day notice yeah was one of the only guys to get a contract on the show.
Speaker 2:He got a finish on the guy like super fast dude. Like in the first round, first minute by team kick right down the middle, right in the gut, finished him. He couldn't even do anything, shut his body down, Goes on another four-day notice to take on this fight, to be on their prelims with his teammate, which is Hamzat Shumayev, and pulls out another finish. Yep. Which is I mean Suzurkayev.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say I think he'szerkayev, I'm gonna say I think he's likely one to watch, oh man dude.
Speaker 2:I mean he has a great teammate in Hamzat Chimaev, obviously the new champion, so I think, yeah, he's definitely one to look out for.
Speaker 1:Just those two 4-day notice fights is kind of crazy to me and being 10-0 right now, it's pretty solid way to start, and especially on such short notice especially on such short notice. And but eric nolan was not being a slouch on that one and he was giving him some trouble I do have to say I really wish I was a betting man and I had bet on him, because that was a pretty good return on him yeah absolutely. Minus 950. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. That is kind of crazy. Then after that we got that main card Tim Elliott versus Kai Asakura. Tim Elliott being vintage about it, nasty submission. Kai Asakura getting rear naked, choked twice back-to-back is it's not the best of back to back, is not the best, look man. And I think, yes, he needs to go back to the lab and just work on that defense. Dude, you cannot be the first fighter ever to get choked three times back to back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would pretty much end his UFC career, probably To get choked three times back to back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would pretty much end his UFC career. Probably I would think so, and before it even basically started. Dude, I mean, that's not the point. The main point is that he does look great at the start, very fast hands. Yeah, very technical.
Speaker 1:And he looked like he was going to body him. If he gets better defense, he could be a real force within that weight class, absolutely you just need to work on not getting choked out.
Speaker 2:Tim Milliet pulling out that vintage win. And then we had this very strange fight between Jared Kananier and Michael Venom Page. Michael Venom Page, michael Venom Page was literally dribbling on him, man.
Speaker 1:That was. It was both entertaining and disappointing for me, because I mean Venom. He was doing all of his normal Venom stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely Emotes.
Speaker 1:Being goofy, not protecting his head All his normal Venom stuff. Yeah, absolutely Emotes. Being goofy, not protecting his head All the normal Venom stuff. But as entertaining as that is in small doses in my book, I really wish we could have seen him do more. Sure he had the power. I can see that.
Speaker 1:He had the skill. I really wish we could have seen more from him yeah and it would have been really neat to have seen him finish cannon here sure which isn't to say that uh, cannon here wasn't putting up a decent fight in preventing that from happening.
Speaker 2:I'm not poo-pooing on cannon here, he did get rocked a couple times and did get dropped two or three times and he really did look like the first two rounds. He was just like eyes wide open, like mesmerized by what MVP's gonna do. And MVP taking severe advantage of that with nasty strikes. That, oh my god, came out of nowhere. But, like you said, he didn't go for the finish and Jared Kananir I think he did win round three was just controlling him and showing how strong he is. I mean, jared Kananir is no slouch.
Speaker 1:No, especially in the strength division. I'm definitely not shippooing him, absolutely not. Coming from the heavyweight division all the way to light heavy weight and now to middle weight, I mean, he's definitely has that strength, but he did not implement any game plan and did not.
Speaker 2:He was not prepared for venom's oddness, yeah, and how fast? Yeah, super fast, dude he is super fast, super fast he's really good at baiting you into going for strikes that you're not going.
Speaker 1:He knows you're not going to land, but you you don't.
Speaker 2:He knows you're not going to land but you, you don't quite know, you're not going to win yeah, and I just want to bring up real quick, real quick, is that this sport is, the sport is based on. It's a game of inches, you know it can be and jared cannonier throwing a head kick and mvp just matrix passing literally centimeters away from his face and like it was nothing, just simply amazed me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was definitely some really good moments. I'm not saying I'm disappointed in the whole fight or anything. I'm just saying it would have been nice to see a finish from. Venom Because. I think he was capable of it Absolutely, but I think he was having too much fun playing around with Kanan here.
Speaker 2:And that's MVP.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:I mean a lot of people are saying because of the little dribbling emos. They're saying that this is the first Michael dribbling on his opponent since Michael Jordan for the Chicago Bulls. It was insane, michael dribbling on his opponent since Michael Jordan for the Chicago Bulls. It was insane Great performance by Michael VandenPage getting that unanimous win. And then we had one of the nastiest knockouts I have seen in a long time. Oh boy.
Speaker 2:Carlos Prates versus Jeff Neal. Carlos Prates getting the number nine spinning elbow knockout in the UFC history. And it was crazy because look at this First round 459. Yeah, it was just before the buzzer. Buzzer, beater, spinning knockout by the fighting nerd, carlos Prates, and against an opponent who has never been knocked out in the UFC. You got Jeff Neal tough as nails, eating a nasty elbow knockout.
Speaker 1:Up until that point I thought it was going to be a much longer fight and I even had. I wasn't doubting that Jeff Neal could pull it off Absolutely. I wasn't thinking he was like a favorite or anything like that. I was just very much that Jeff Neal was in the running up until that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jeff Neal definitely was not a slouch in that fight and Carlos Pratt is fighting the range late. Matt's spinning elbow was absolutely horrendous.
Speaker 1:It came out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:It came out of nowhere, it just thumped the sound alone. I wish you guys could go back and listen to that sound, because that sound was like tapping a freaking microphone.
Speaker 1:It was just you could hear it. It was a real hit.
Speaker 2:It was a real hit.
Speaker 1:You could hear it. It was a real hit. It was a real hit and it was like the specific point of impact was just barely off of the temple. Oh, man dude. But as the elbow continued and more of the upper arm landed just behind the tip of the elbow, yeah, it did hit his temple, it did, yeah, and he had his guard up.
Speaker 2:He had his guard up. It just passed by the guard and it was just what a nasty shot, what a precision point shot right at the buzzer man, I cannot believe. I even recorded this and I sent it to some other friends. I said carlos protest is a video game because this is some stuff you see in the video game you're doing some flashy stuff yeah, last second, flashy last second trying to finish it right at the buzzer.
Speaker 1:It's just incredible button mash right at the last second.
Speaker 2:And do you think that was the last knockout of the night? Oh hell no. We had another amazing knockout by Lerone Murphy against the aforementioned Aaron Pico, another Getting the number 10th spinning back elbow knockout in UFC history.
Speaker 1:It was the first fight, just in reverse, it was just the opposite side of the body. That's insane. It was just. Let's see here which one was. The first one was left elbow, the second one was right elbow, I think.
Speaker 2:Insane.
Speaker 1:It was crazy. Crazy I'd never seen. Well, obviously you almost never see those finishes ever because it's only number 10.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's just. It was extra crazy that it was back-to-back fight.
Speaker 2:It's insane.
Speaker 1:It was crazy, both of these gentlemen, both in round one, yeah both in round one.
Speaker 2:And I will say I'm not going to knock Aaron Pico. He has been knocked out in the past, but this was a freaking.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, he was unconscious for so long oh man, it was very concerning the way his eyes were moving and I do not want to add this he had his teeth clenched so tight that they could not pull the mouth guard out that.
Speaker 2:That's scary.
Speaker 1:That's scary, it's very scary.
Speaker 2:I wish well for Aaron Pico and I hope for a speedy recovery. And he was a dog. I think I had Aaron Pico up in that round. He had more strikes, he was way faster.
Speaker 1:He was looking really good If he hadn't been caught like that it's very likely he would have won.
Speaker 2:It's very likely he would have won. It's very likely he would have won at least that first round.
Speaker 1:Which definitely isn't a takeaway from Lerone Murphy. He wasn't like being a slouch or anything. Absolutely not. He had a clearly really good fight IQ that he pulled out the back elbow right then and there. But leading up to that point I definitely was thinking it was likely going to be Pico who won.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I did tell you in the previous episode that Lerone Murphy is an absolute dog. And every fight that I have seen with Lerone Murphy has been amazing. I mean clearly being an undefeated prospect and getting this nasty knockout while on this win streak is insane Against an opponent who they obviously had up you know, on the odds. So yeah, it's not a huge up, but it was definitely up and Lerone Murphy stating previously and I remember this he stated he was going to use Aaron Pico's aggression against him.
Speaker 1:Oh, he did.
Speaker 2:And he definitely did, but in the fashion that he did.
Speaker 1:If he hadn't been going in for that strike, he wouldn't have been caught by that.
Speaker 2:And that just goes to Lerone Murphy's IQ. To his camp coming on short notice. It was supposed to be Mosvar Evolev. To his camp coming on short notice. It was supposed to be Mosvar Evolev and he just made the case for championship contention. And even Alexander Volkanovsky tweeting right after see you in December, lerone Murphy. So let's just see. But right now Mosvar Evolev is jumping up and down with anger because they're not even mentioning him anymore after that knockout. It was just amazing. Getting the number 10 knockout spinning back elbow knockout in UFC history is just insane to me. And then we had that domination by Hamzat Shemaev. I mean, not too many significant strikes thrown, but Drekas Duplicy did not have any answers for any of the wrestling or any of the transitions pretty much.
Speaker 1:yeah, he was able to stand up once, but that's it which is kind of sad. He I mean he was able to stand up once, but that's it which is kind of sad he knew the fight he was going in for. Yes, hamzat has been fighting the same way from day one, pretty much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he knew it was coming.
Speaker 1:In my opinion it was almost criminal, the lack of preparation from his camp. I like that. I agree. It's absolutely insane.
Speaker 2:Insane.
Speaker 1:Knowing how effective his takedowns are? Yeah, knowing how effective he is at maintaining control on the ground. You weren't prepared for that.
Speaker 2:And, like you said, you know what's coming.
Speaker 1:And this wasn't a short notice fight or anything. No, he had so much time he had what was it? Almost three months.
Speaker 2:He had so much time that people were saying that Chemaev was not even going to be able to make that fight. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:It's borderline criminal in my book.
Speaker 2:I like that. I like that you mentioned that.
Speaker 1:That his camp did not even almost prepare him.
Speaker 2:And they were saying that they're ready. They're ready for this level of wrestling, they're ready for his takedowns? I mean, you know, the double leg is coming. It's patented. Hamzat Chemaev Low double leg.
Speaker 1:If you don't know that, you're not paying attention.
Speaker 2:Low double leg to the knees. I mean not too many people can hit that double leg like that. And Hamzat is very special. Yeah, he's a special fighter.
Speaker 1:He trains that move a lot.
Speaker 2:A lot. But, dude, just the transitions, just the turtling up. He was turtling up the entire time, not trying to get up, not trying to scramble, and I didn't see any sprawls. I didn't see any sprawls besides the ones that he was trying to do while he was getting crucified put in the crucifix, I think about five times, which, uh, if you're a long time ufc fan or mma fan, you know that the crucifix is a very hard position to get into in the first place yeah they're not just gonna let you do that and it's like one of the most dominant positions, but damn, dude, drick has did not have any answers for that at all.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't have any answers. Admittedly, he did pretty well on not getting knocked out in that position sure, I mean you couldn't really get knocked out like that.
Speaker 2:But he didn't take significant, didn't?
Speaker 1:take significant damage and and all the whole nine yards, I'm just saying hiding his head. I think Hamzat could, I think, have done a lot better with it if. Ddp hadn't been so tucked in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Some elbows maybe.
Speaker 1:That said, as I've read multiple times and I wasn't really noticing it in the moment multiple times and I wasn't really noticing it in the moment, but from reading after the fact and everything I do remember there were uncomfortable number of hits to the back of DDP's head kinda. I would say kinda, mainly because I mean, none of them were hitting really hard, but he was still hitting.
Speaker 2:I will say I would put it more on mainly because, I mean, none of them were hitting really hard, but he was still hitting. I will say I would put it more on a good job for Drikus, because he did an amazing job of tucking his head underneath Hamzat's arm which kind of prevented him from taking any strikes to the face. And Hamzat was indeed trying to do those little hits and obviously some did hit the back of the head, some hit the side of the head. I will say I mean not the most like exciting performance for a championship round right, but.
Speaker 2:I do still think one of the most dominant championship fights for the opponent and, honestly, probably one of the saddest performances of a champion that I've seen. I mean, I've seen some bad performances.
Speaker 1:I've seen.
Speaker 2:Conor McGregor versus Jose Aldo, where Jose Aldo got knocked down in the first 13 seconds but damn dude, Like you're not going to get out of any sort of takedown, You're not going to try to stuff any of them. Like he didn't even try to use his plot armor or he didn't use the cartoon hammer.
Speaker 1:Like I thought they were. That said, it's also really sad on Hamzat's side of things that as much control time as he had, as many of his quote-unquote strikes as he had, that was crazy. He did next to no damage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not much damage he had all this control all this quote-unquote domination.
Speaker 1:All these 513, was it 529. 529. 529 total strikes. That's insane. And he did almost no damage at all to DDP. That's pathetic, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:Kind of.
Speaker 1:In this weight class. If you can't cause damage with that many hits, what are you even doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is kind of crazy to me.
Speaker 1:You're hitting like a baby. If you can't cause damage at this weight division with that many strikes, yeah absolutely, I do see that point 529.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is kind of crazy to me. And mark goddard stepping in twice, picking them up, giving uh drichus a chance a couple times well, I don't think he was giving him a chance.
Speaker 1:I think it was following the ufc rules where if you're not advancing in a position, all you're doing is just laying there that that's not in the rules, that's not okay to do within the rule set of the UFC.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, as people are saying, drik has got crucified more times than Jesus.
Speaker 1:It doesn't take much to get more than that. I mean, dude, five times is crazy to me. Five times is well four for sure, are we sure it was the fifth time?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I know fourth for sure.
Speaker 2:But it was just crazy how much, how smothered he was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was definitely being smothered. He was ill-prepared for the type of wrestling that. Hamzat does, which it's well-documented Hamzat's style.
Speaker 2:I know and I will say I will add to Drickus' credit he did provide some in-depth analysis after the fight and some very honest analysis where he said it's not so much that he's very strong, it's that he knew what I was going to try to do before I did it. And.
Speaker 2:I mean that kind of comes to say to Hamzza's technical ability, completely stopping every move that he had. But dude, I mean I think the part that's more criminal to the point is that that coach that Drakus has. I mean it goes to say you have to be confident in your fighter right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but some of the things that he was saying, for exampleza, we're gonna get through that wrestling once we get past the first couple rounds, it's our, it's our fight. In the fight, Drake is going back every round to his corner. Okay, coach says, now we're gonna fight him round two.
Speaker 1:Okay, at some point now we're going to fight him Round two Okay, at some point it definitely should have been fix what you're doing and do something.
Speaker 2:Round three Goes back to the corner, the coach tells him you have to stop getting crucifixed. Now we're going to fight him. Round four how are you feeling I feel good? My arms. How are your arms feel, I feel good, my arms. How are your arms feel, I feel good, bro? That coaching staff should have been it's do or die. You're going to have to throw some knees right down the middle. You're going to have to blast knees. You're going to have to blast elbows.
Speaker 1:You're going to have to throw at least one kick. You're going to have to throw kicks.
Speaker 2:You're going to have to scramble, you're gonna have to sprawl, you're gonna have to defend takedowns. Yeah, dude, at least one.
Speaker 1:There was some shining light at the fifth round for dracus but damn dude, it was like snuffed in the in 30 seconds. Yeah, it was. Yeah, I mean, there's all. You can go on and on and on Absolutely Dissecting this fight. Yeah. Hundreds of other people do on various platforms. Yeah, but the long and short of it was the ADP was not prepared for this fight?
Speaker 2:No, not at all.
Speaker 1:And it wasn't like this was a surprise strategy from Hamzat. It was just criminal underpreparedness.
Speaker 2:It was insane. And it wasn't like this was a surprise strategy from Hamzat, it was just criminal underpreparedness. It was insane. Shame on that fight camp and shame on that coaching staff, for I mean, I don't know if they just didn't feel that Hamzat was that much of a threat.
Speaker 1:It's almost like they were riding the hype train, like they'd seen all those memes that we were talking about in previous episodes my plot armor. And they were just riding high on that and expecting him to just pull a random win out of his ass no matter what.
Speaker 2:It seemed like that. It seemed like that, it seemed like, and up until this point, that has worked. Yeah, and it seemed like.
Speaker 1:But this high level you can't.
Speaker 2:It seemed like, okay, we're letting him have the first three rounds, but the last two rounds we're going to knock him out, Bro. No. They were banking, absolutely banking, on Hamza Shemya, the gas tank, to die after the first two rounds. They were praying that he just would not have the cardio built for this.
Speaker 1:But even people who barely watch the UFC know that Hamzat trains. Well, not everyone, but a lot of people will be aware of how absurdly not absurdly, but to an absurd degree Hamzat trains. It's pretty darn well established within the MMA community.
Speaker 2:To the point where he's discussed on almost every fight Several platforms.
Speaker 1:On almost every fight that. Hamzat is part of. At some point during the fight, the commentators talk about how much he trains and he even over trains he over trains that's why he's been had to pull out of fights?
Speaker 2:yes, because of overtraining sick and not to mention the sicknesses that he's had. I mean, covid really put a number on him. Uh, he had this thing that they considered long covid, where the symptoms just persist, persist and him still training while sick. I mean, I'm sure, exacerbated everything oh for sure.
Speaker 1:But knowing how much someone trains, how can you not be aware of what kind of gas tank that person's gonna have? Like for real, especially now because he was in a really great fight camp for this one especially when you know how he fights and most of how he fights is literally just laying on top of you. Yeah, that doesn't expend a lot of energy, like how can you expect to run his gas tank out, if that's his play style and you're playing right into?
Speaker 2:it absolutely. I mean under preparedness yeah, like we were saying criminal, yeah, criminal underpreparedness and I will say that, despite the performance, hamza Chamayev came very prepared because he actually trained with a different coach towards the end, coach Cal, out of the garage. They call it the garage, whereas they say it's where people go to peak, reach your peak, oh, and they test your blood levels, they test your oxygen, all that kind of stuff and oh really so it's like a very like super scientific super scientific, almost fighting.
Speaker 2:Fighting nerd style yeah almost a coach cow is amazing. I recently, uh heard him speak in a in a podcast where he went in-depth with what he did with Hamza Chemaev and Arman Tsarukian, which they became training partners towards the end giving Hamza Chemaev that gas tank that they were banking on him not having. Right.
Speaker 2:And I don't know. Dude, I just can't stop saying enough about how underprepared I feel Drikus was in this fight and who knows what's going to happen now. My main concern is looking at the division right now. I was like, okay, who really stands a chance now? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I mean I can't really name too many people I think stand a chance. I mean we got Kyle Boraglio and Nazardin Imovov, but they're fighting soon. And then you got Fluffy Hernandez. I mean he's a wrestler, so who knows. And then you got Rene DeRidder making some waves right now. Right, At least he has those knees, though, Right.
Speaker 1:I think RDR has the ability and drive that. Unfortunately, ddp did not showcase in this last fight to be prepared for those kind of takedowns, especially with his knees. I think he would really utilize his knees well in a double leg takedown attempt. I just can't get over how disappointed I am with how underprepared DDP was. Exactly, it just keeps circling back to that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. It's like dude, how can you not have any answers as the champ? It's insane, but but I think, but whatever.
Speaker 1:Do you think RDR is going to fight DDP before he ends up fighting Hamzat, or?
Speaker 2:No clue? I do. I am hearing that Hamzat wants to fight very soon, like October soon which is insane to me, because he wants to fight in Abu Dhabi, where he's from. So it's kind of crazy. So I mean, I don't know If he wants to fight so soon there's only I mean it's reasonable. It's reasonable. I mean he didn't take too much damage, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he didn't take a whole lot of damage and most of it was superficial. Yeah, he didn't take a whole lot of damage and most of it was superficial. It'd be pretty similar to the way Alex fought last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and same question, though, is who can he face? I mean, there's only two people in that case, because you got the two top contenders fighting soon, fighting September 6th. There's no way either one of them are going to be able to fight in October. No no no, because this is going to be a dogfight Imabov versus Boraglio and we'll bring that one up a little later in the show. But then who's left? Fluffy Hernandez, who was in the crowd, and Rene Derrida, who was also in the crowd.
Speaker 1:That would be a pretty big jump for both of them, though very big jump.
Speaker 3:I mean dude, I don't know but that, that just adds, it could, it could, it could work, who knows?
Speaker 2:I think Rene Derrida has kind of a stronger case than Hernandez. But I mean, same question is like who can beat Hamza Chemaev a healthy Hamza Chemaev with a gas tank Right? That's kind of crazy to me.
Speaker 1:A prepared DDP could have been a real contender but, he clearly wasn't prepared.
Speaker 2:Dude, he didn't have any answers for me to say that he didn't have any answers in any round. I mean even Dana White saying that he felt he got 50-40'd. That's insane to me, dude. That's like not even show up to the fight, kind of shit 50-40'd In the scorecards. I mean he got 50-40'd forward, which is also insane to me, like that's a scorecard you rarely see, especially coming from a champion. That's like what did you come for?
Speaker 1:Right, that's like you were just phoning it in at that point. Right, that's like you were just phoning it in at that point.
Speaker 2:I mean, like I was saying, dana White saying that he felt that he was 10-8 every round. Wow, you don't see too many 10-8s. I mean, obviously, I think it was 10-8 in the first round and 10-9, 10-9, 10-9. But, damn bro, 50-44 across the board is insane to me and it's like the champion did not come to fight at all. Yeah, very upsetting, very upsetting performance.
Speaker 1:Especially after we talked it up so much last episode. Yeah, but I do?
Speaker 2:I knew it was going to either be one or the other. Either he was going to pull out that cartoon hammer and use that plot armor, or Chimaev was just going to dog walk him. And he did, and he did. But, like you said, it's criminally unpreparedness, yeah, and that's what I have to say about that. And then we have a fight night that I'm gonna watch and I'm gonna wake up at 4 am this coming weekend.
Speaker 1:That's gonna be august 23rd oh no, it's one of the early 4 am, it's in china.
Speaker 2:Uh, and that's that.
Speaker 2:Johnny walker versus shang ming yang there's no way I'm getting up that early uh, I'm actually already pre-setting my alarms for that one, because I mean, right before that one, let me read the card for you. These are some bangers on that card, um, on that main card, just some of the fights alone. You got borjas, uh, sumer darje versus borjas, sergey pavlovich versus acosta, and then you got another banger dude, brian ortega versus aljamain sterling, and that's, that's going to be an amazingly technical fight from those two gentlemen. And then we had that, that main, with Johnny Walker versus Ming Yang. Hopefully Johnny Walker does not just get immediately body bagged in that one, but more than likely Ming Yang has some nasty heavy hands Right and Johnny Walker has a nasty, not so heavy chin.
Speaker 1:He also has a pronounced tendency to be goofing around too much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is not the person to goof around with. I mean, I think it's just crazy the potential that Johnny Walker has, you know, in general, but I don't know how seriously he'll take it yeah, if he did, if he was a little better with his head movement like venom is, but venom's better with his head movement.
Speaker 1:If he was a little better. Maybe if he trained with venom page for a little bit, he might uh, he might warrant his goofiness, but he needs to refine it before he starts trying to showboat, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with that. We have another nasty card and that's in September 6th. It's another fight night. We're getting some treats on these fight nights, man. That main fight, nazardine Imoval versus Kai Boraglio. I think that's a contender fight for this middleweight division and I think it's a contender fight for this middleweight division and I think it's a very important fight that we'll see who really is the top dog in that division, coming after Hamza Chamayev. So we'll see. Before that we have that Benoit Saint-Denis versus Mauricio Rufi. I think that's going to be fireworks. I mean I have yet to see a boring Rufi. I mean I have yet to see a boring and roofy fight. I have yet to see any boring roofy fight. They've all been very exciting. They've all been nasty finishes for the most part and honestly, he's a very flashy fighter yeah, I've enjoyed all the fights he's been in so far.
Speaker 1:He's not a boring fighter yeah, oki vs Mason Jones.
Speaker 2:Before that A lightweight bout, very exciting fighters, modestus Bukaskas and also Paul Craig. That should be an absolute banger too, because both guys need this win for sure.
Speaker 1:I recognize Craig. I don't recognize Bukaskas. Bukaskis.
Speaker 2:Bukaskis Ferez Ziem, which he's nasty. I've seen him fight another time before he's a dog too dude Versus Fernandez, and that should be a banger too. Honestly, we've been getting some very exciting cards, some very amazing fight nights and, like I was saying, I know a lot of people have been very, very kind of weary about these apex cards. I myself, since the apex conception, have been kind of weary about them. You know, having that small stadium I mean having that small room with no fans and but honestly, we've been getting some nasty fights in that realm and I'm very excited about these next fight nights.
Speaker 2:Another thing that I am very excited for, harley, is that Paramount deal that has just been secured by the UFC and, honestly, a sweetheart deal $7.7 billion in the span of seven years, $1.1 billion a year, which is an ungodly amount. Insane.
Speaker 1:But that's going to mean a lot more accessibility for your average fan. Yeah absolutely Even just someone who's casual about it who just wants to watch it every now and again for their one specific fighter that they like to watch, or what have you? It's going to be so much more accessible and I think a lot more people are going to be able to enjoy this sport than they ever have before because very exciting so many people don't want to have to buy a 80 paper an espn subscription, yes, and then on top of that have to buy the pay-per-view for any real fight and it's it going to make it a lot more accessible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And what was the like if you added up and bought every pay-per-view?
Speaker 2:what was that per year? Like a thousand, something, 500 or something like that, if you bought every pay-per-view?
Speaker 1:Was that factoring in the ESPN subscription too?
Speaker 2:I'm not sure if it did factor that in, but an absurd number nonetheless. Subscription to I'm not sure if it did factor that in, but an absurd number nonetheless. And this paramount deal, uh, it brings all of the marquee events to the streaming service. You got all 13 marquee ufc events which are the pay-per-view the numbered events which, um, who knows what format they're going to call it. They might call it um, uh, ple's or something like that. Um, it really just depends. They're not going to be, they're not going to be pay-per-views anymore right.
Speaker 1:I'm one thing I am speculatively, uh excited for if it works out the way I'm hoping and thinking it will the accessibility to not have to watch these live sure is exciting to me because like like this upcoming fight that's going to be at 4 am. Right, most people aren't willing or even able to watch a fight like that. Casuals. Yeah, I, I, I work man. I work saturdays sometimes and I just don't have the opportunity to do that sometimes.
Speaker 2:So yeah for normal people is what you're saying yeah, in that regard. Yeah, I am a casual I.
Speaker 1:I'm just excited for the potential of being able to watch fights and not be forced to have to watch them live or not at all. Because it really is upsetting to me not being able to go and rewatch this awesome fight that I just watched. I can't rewind it and be like oh. I want to watch that fight again. You can't. It's one and done. If you have to go take a potty break, you can't pause it and come back and watch it. You either got to poop yourself.
Speaker 1:You either got to bring it on your phone or hold it.
Speaker 2:I will say, 13 marquee events and 30 fight nights annually, and these select events will be simulcast on CBS. So it's definitely going to expand the reach of the UFC and this is a shift from the pay-per-view forum and, honestly, it's like a groundbreaking thing for me as a longtime UFC fan, having paid for a lot of these pay-per-views, and it's it's definitely going to be something that is history making for this sport, as you, like you were saying yeah, and, and the only other alternative to paying that price every month is going to a place like Buffalo Wild Wings or whatnot, where, if your brain struggles to differentiate sounds in a crowded environment like I have trouble with, you can't understand what's being said, for 70% of what's each spoken word.
Speaker 1:You can't even understand what they're saying, because there's the each spoken word you can't even understand. You can't understand what they're saying because there's so many people around you jabbering, which is both a blessing and a curse, because I mean, yeah, you're, you're in there, you're getting great food, you're, you're able to communicate with people around you and and feel the vibe, if you will oh yeah but if you can't understand what's being said, you can't even hear what the fighters are saying in their post-fight interview.
Speaker 1:If it cheapens the experience, in my opinion, in my opinion. So I'm excited. I'm excited for the potential here.
Speaker 2:Yeah I'm absolutely excited you got uh implications for fans, which are the accessibility I mean fans will no longer have to pay for these $80 pay-per-views. Instead, it looks like you're going to get all the UFC content for about $7.99 a month on the Paramount. I'm betting they're going to up the price.
Speaker 1:I'm betting at some point maybe when the UFC, finally, is actually on boarded to them. I'm betting it's going to up the price, but still, even still it's going to be the price, but still, even, still, yeah, and even going to be, even if it jumps up to 20 a month. Sure it's still going to be cheaper, especially because you're going to. You're going to have access to all these other movies and shows that are on paramount already yeah, I mean it's going to be worth it.
Speaker 2:It's going to be worth it for your average person absolutely, uh, and you have the increased exposure, more eyeballs watching this sport, more eyeballs on the ufc and it's. It's just a chance for people who have not seen it, like you were saying, to watch it and I'm betting their. Their merch sales are going to skyrocket and that's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1:That's gonna be crazy more people are going to be aware of the existence of it. For one and two the people who would like to buy it but can't afford it because they'd rather buy a pay-per-view they're gonna suddenly have the money to go buy the merch yeah, absolutely, I mean.
Speaker 2:Uh, another thing that I want to mention is for cbs. This is a big, massive step forward to their cbs sports catalog that they're really trying to push right now, uh, and also to mention, let's see how that card for next year, that white house card, that comes to fruition on cbs I mean that potential is going to be interesting to watch it play out absolutely to.
Speaker 2:I mean things that I have would have never imagined as a UFC fan, as an MMA fan, as a combat sports fan seeing this deal Rewind the clock 10 years and being able to tell yourself that there's going to be a fight at the White House.
Speaker 1:A sitting president has come and watched fights the whole, nine yards Just below your mind, dude.
Speaker 2:Honestly, if I were to tell myself 10 years back that this would happen paramount deal, no more pay-per-views White House card honestly I'd smack the shit out of myself bro. I'd be like come here bro, straight smack bro, because there's no way that this is real life.
Speaker 1:How dare you get? My hopes up, you bastard.
Speaker 2:Like Hawkeye in the Avengers movie, where he's like don't do that, don't give me hope. Yeah, but I'm hoping that this is all real and I'm hoping that this is not a dream. I mean, dude, I don't know what the year is going to bring, but I am ultimately excited for this next coming year and what that means for the UFC and what that means for the fans and myself.
Speaker 1:And I don't know how directly linked to the Paramount deal this is. But another thing I'm happy for is the promised increase in pay for the fighters absolutely yes, because in my opinion, someone who's putting that much of their life at risk sure to entertain people. Yeah, I think. I think they should get paid more.
Speaker 1:They should get more of the pie so to speak Because astronomical amount of money goes into or is gained through these fights, through ad merch, just the whole nine years. There's so many avenues of income for these, and to have I don't know exact statistics, but I'm just going to throw it out there to be like 20 of all incoming revenue, basically only 20 of incoming revenue, going to the fighters, is not cool in my opinion. I I'm not saying that's the actual percentage yeah listeners.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like it is a rather small percentage right of the overall income is going to the fighters and I agree and to have more of that pie going to the fighters.
Speaker 2:I think is both correct and good yeah, and I mean this kind of also speaks to the growth of the UFC. I mean, we had the previous deal with ESPN, which was like $1.1 billion for five years. The jump from this to $7.7 billion in seven years is just astronomical. What an amazing jump. What a savvy businessman Dana White is. I will also add that Dana White in a previous conference he did state that this does mean more fighter pay, this does mean more fighter bonuses, and that's a very interesting prospect for me, because I also am on the same boat, that I do think these fighters deserve their fair pay and their fair share. That's for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's their backs that this money is being made upon. They should get a reasonable share of that money. That's income.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and I do think that with this coming deal, with this massive streaming deal, I think they will see the fruits of their labor and I think they will see more money.
Speaker 1:That said, one thing I read about is that dana white said that they're not completely getting rid of the pay-per-view model sure and that there might be select star like star studded, if you will yeah events where you know it's super fights, if you will, who knows?
Speaker 1:and I'm cautiously optimistic of that, sure, because especially if these are potentially, you know, like amazing super fights that maybe don't necessarily stay within like rankings or whatever, um, you know, like if a one-off of you bring in the uh, the number one fighter of the pfl or or whatever, to come fight just at just for one super fight you're talking about, like maybe john jones versus francis and ganyu? Something along those lines.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's all they have that's all they have is Francis and Gagnon.
Speaker 1:That was just the first other promotion that came to mind, there's Bellator and all the others.
Speaker 2:I definitely see your point, but I don't know if that can happen or if it will work. Who knows?
Speaker 1:I think the Paramount deal allows for that to be a much more flexible option. Yeah, who knows Than with the ESPN deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do think that that might be a little more controversial. It's kind of like you can't open up Pandora's box and put everything back in, but who knows? I will say. One thing I do want to mention is this deal does not mention any of the other properties. It doesn't mention the ultimate fighter and it does not mention dana white's contender series, which I'm watching every tuesday. So where does that go? Who knows? Because they said that they haven't landed a deal yet.
Speaker 1:So yeah and yeah and they're. It could be that they will eventually go to CBS, but right now it doesn't seem likely.
Speaker 2:I'm just praying, hoping.
Speaker 1:But it would be nice to have it all under one subscription.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just praying and hoping it doesn't go to ESPN man, I just personally have not had the best with the app, you know experience with the espn has been buggy. A lot of the time and I it would be nice to have every property under the same umbrella. However, we do have, uh, 43 fight cards added um already signed on paper per year, 13 marquee cards and 30 fight nights, and so I do think that's an amazing deal from.
Speaker 1:Paramount. Now, one thing I am a little leery about with this deal, this Paramount deal, is I'm hoping that Paramount is going to be prepared and able to handle the server load.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1:I really don't want every main card or every marquee card as you put it. It would be really, really upsetting for every marquee card to be like the Mike Tyson fight on Netflix I get what you mean when only like 5% of the people are able to watch it live and everybody else is sitting buffering for 40 minutes. Yeah, I agree, that would be really infuriating.
Speaker 2:I will say I am a little bit more confident in Paramount mainly because of, like I was saying about that CBS Sport thing, that they're trying to push getting an NFL contract and they're going to start streaming some NFL fights next year, some NFL games next year. So that's giving me more confidence that they might have the proper infrastructure so they might be fully prepared.
Speaker 1:You're saying. They might have the proper infrastructure to stream these live events, these marquee events, these fight nights, these live events, these marquee events, these fight nights, I mean in theory, paramount and CBS will have the necessary data to look forward and be able to project the amount of infrastructure they will need. However, I am foreseeing the potential that they will. What's the word?
Speaker 2:Maybe be overwhelmed.
Speaker 1:Be underprepared for the amount of people who will be wanting to watch without having to pay the $80 fee to watch. I mean, it's going to open up a whole new world, Right because if, like say, 200,000 people were watching the marquee card as a pay-per-view now, potentially you could have 500,000 people wanting to watch it without having to pay that $80.
Speaker 1:Great point yeah, it's possible. Although, if they do set it up so that you don't have to watch it live, that might alleviate some of the load Because, like I said, people do have to work various schedules and, even though they might be a major fan, sometimes you just have to work and you don't.
Speaker 1:It's unavoidable sure you know, like if those fights in abu dhabi yeah they start at two for the prelims and all that and you're working a normal 10 hour shift or eight to 10 hour shift on a saturday, you're not going to be able to watch that yeah, so unless you're me and you watch it on your phone everywhere you go, at every, every instance, at every time. Well, some jobs are a lot more strict about not allowing phones on premise, Even if they don't allow it it's insane, bro.
Speaker 2:I think I have a problem.
Speaker 1:However, yes, you do.
Speaker 2:So I'm very excited about this Paramount deal. Harley, I want to end the episode on a couple funny segments and we're going to do a UFC, would you rather? Okay. First one. Would you rather have your walkout song be Cotton Eye Joe for every fight, or have your walkout song be Baby Shark?
Speaker 1:Cotton Eye Joe. No contest, no extra time to think Cotton Eye Joe. I was already leaning to Cotton Eye Joe before I even heard of the second one. Cotton Eye Joe is amusing and nowhere near as obnoxious as Baby Shark. It's also less childish a little bit, a little bit. But yeah, I, I and a lot more people I shouldn't say a lot more people know it. But cotton eye joe is just a fun song. Sure, it's a goofy song. Baby shark isn't, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:I think it's kind of rage bait yeah and that's.
Speaker 1:That's about all I can really think of with that if you see, like the sound clips of baby shark is almost exclusively to annoy you, you know, or or referencing of how annoying it is and, uh, the next one.
Speaker 2:I think I already know your answer for this one. Okay, would you rather have to spar with conor mcgregor after he's had a few too many, or have to grapple with khabib nurmagomedov after he's had a few too many?
Speaker 1:that one's actually a little tough. I think I'm, I think I'd probably do the grapple honestly, the Khabib grapple. Yeah, me too, because.
Speaker 1:I don't have any sparring experience with throwing punches. I've always been a wrestler myself, so it would actually be entertaining and informative yeah yes, he might have a few too many and he might uh I don't know he might, uh, go too fast for me to actually learn anything, but it's still. But. He's a nice enough guy that even if he had too many, I think he has enough control to not go too far and to actually break something or dislocate something.
Speaker 2:He's going to tell you I'm going to break your arm, brother.
Speaker 1:I'm going to break your arm now brother. I think if he feels a tap, he will stop. Who knows? Even if he's got too many. I'm not so sure about McGregor. I'm not so sure about Conor.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know if this is cocaine Conor or not cocaine Conor, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Either or Either, or I don't think I could trust, but With too many in, I think he would just head kick and knock me out just to be like are you going to buy some proper 12 now? You see what I did to you. You know I don't know how that would go for me, but I would also pick Khabib on that one. This is a good one for you. Would you rather have to cut weight by only eating gummy bears or have to cut weight by only drinking protein shakes?
Speaker 1:Only drinking protein shakes. No contest, gummy bears to that degree I don't dislike gummy bears, but good god, only having those. No, no, thank you. And uh, cavity central there yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:And then we have another one that, uh, I don't. I don't know which one I would pick personally. Would you rather have to take 10 leg kicks from Jose Aldo, the leg kick master man, or take one body shot from Francis Ngannou?
Speaker 1:I've never actually seen a Ngannou fight, but oof, it depends on where the body. If he goes for my ribs, I'm, I'm out I don't know if it's only to like my, my stomach, I think I could handle that to the liver damn well, I don't want my liver to be burst. Man. That's crazy, bro, what I'm saying. Like I don't want broken bones from this or I have to go to the hospital.
Speaker 2:I mean if you just look up Francis Ngannou versus Alistair Overeem, francis Ngannou versus Stipe Miocic or any other Francis Ngannou fight, you just know that this guy hits hard.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I understand that. I'm just saying I lean towards the Neganyu because of the one hit Right, unless it entails hospital time. Yeah. Because I don't have the money for a hospital visit like that.
Speaker 2:Because then Jose Aldo leg kicks and he's nasty with him. I mean, just look at Jose Aldo versus Uriah Faber, where they literally had to pick up Uriah Faber and take him to his corner Right. Look that up, guys. Insane Because of those leg kicks.
Speaker 1:Right. If the hospital time wasn't guaranteed, or no hospital time wasn't guaranteed, I would go with the leg kicks. Damn, I would hate my life and I don't want to go with that option because a great deal of my life including my work life revolves around me having working legs. Having legs and being able to walk around and carry things, but I don't think I would have to. I'd probably not have to do hospital time from leg kicks, man, I don't know, this is a hard one.
Speaker 2:Why did I ask this? I guess I would just cry and ask Jose Aldo to take it easy, which I don't think is possible. I don't know, man, I guess the leg kicks Because France isn't gone. You might break a rib.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, uh, that's my concern is if he hits my ribs, I very likely will have a broken rib or two and or bruised lung and if he if he hits like near my liver, I I don't want a ruptured liver oh dude my body is not. I don't have my my body conditioned to take hits like that I don't think anybody does this guy you can condition your body to take hits to an absurd I guess they will gone survive. Yeah, you're right but I don't and I don't want.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't want to do hospital time.
Speaker 2:I don't know man, um, I, I think I would still pick the josie alder leg kicks and learn portuguese so I could tell him, him in Portuguese, to please give me a chance, and I don't know. But for that kind of choice you have to put your gloves up, man. And what can you do besides try to put on a better show than Drik is duplicated, and with that, harley, we'll go ahead and end the episode For all you guys. I hope you guys like and subscribe and enjoy the UFC stuff. Let us know in the comments what you guys think and we sincerely appreciate you.
Speaker 1:That we certainly do, and if you can suggest us to friends or family without being obnoxious, that would be cool too. Word of mouth helps as well. Alrighty, y'all Thanks for listening and I hope you have a great week and we'll see you next time.
