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• Alan Christopher • Season 1 • Episode 18

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A title fight promised answers and delivered a mess: a vicious double eye poke, a no-contest, and a stadium full of boos. We dig into what really happened in Aspinall vs Gane, why warnings weren’t enough, and how MMA should handle “accidental” fouls when they tilt belts, paychecks, and careers. From glove design to referee discretion, we challenge the idea that a point deduction is meaningful deterrence, especially when desperation can turn a foul into a strategy.

Zooming out, the heavyweight division needs urgency. Beyond the top two, control-heavy fights with little damage aren’t cutting it—Volkov vs Almeida may have set a new scoring tone that rewards offense over empty control. Still, technical brilliance shined elsewhere: a surgical jab KO at light heavyweight and a head-kick finish that was as stunning as it was scary. In contrast, bantamweight is overflowing: Umar Nurmagomedov’s acceleration, resilience after getting dropped, and readiness to return collide with Marab Dvalishvili’s relentless streak and record hunt. On the women’s side, Mackenzie Dern’s win keeps strawweight moving while Zhang Weili’s ferocity looms over the division’s ceiling.

Then the schedule spikes. UFC 322 brings a can’t-miss doubleheader: Jack Della Madalena vs Islam Makhachev in a risky weight jump that tests clinch control, power carryover, and late-fight cardio, plus Valentina Shevchenko vs Zhang Weili in a cross-division showdown with legacy on the line. Add Bo Nickal’s next test, violent welterweights, and prelims featuring Beneil Dariush, Benoit Saint-Denis, and Robocop Rodriguez, and November looks loaded. We also spotlight a sneaky-great fight night with Tsarukyan vs Hooker and Belal Muhammad vs Ian Machado Garry, where rankings and reputations will shift.

We close with Reddit confessions that hit real life like a liver shot: fake meal prep to fit in, an inheritance denied by sexist logic, a man who drives in rush hour just to cause traffic, and a friend possibly misdiagnosed with DID—raising hard questions about empathy, skepticism, and boundaries. Hit play for unfiltered fight analysis, honest takes on rules and safety, and stories that say as much about us as they do about the sport. If you enjoyed this one, subscribe, leave a review, and tell us: what should the penalty be for eye pokes in championship fights?

SPEAKER_00:

Welcome everyone to another episode of Peak Points. This one's a little late. Sorry guys, this was on me. I've been watching the World Series nail biting. I don't think I have any nails left. Let me check real quick. No, they're all gone. As a Dodger fan, this is uh has been a very frustrating and sad World Series for me right now. Uh let's see how sad I am the next episode. Uh we'll gauge that later, right? We'll have like a little gauge meter for me. Yeah. The fact that they're in the world series isn't good enough for you. I mean, I'm excited. I'm excited no matter what, but uh I digress. In today's episode, we'll talk about some UFC cards, but uh like the UFC 321, Tom Aspinall versus Ciro Gun or Serial, whichever one you prefer. I love cereal. Like the actual cereal. Cocoa Pebbles, right? Oh my god, Coco Pebbles. Fire, bro. Um, regardless. Uh Ciro Gun, not serial. And then we have a couple other cards that we're gonna talk about, some upcoming ones, some fight nights, and also that amazing UFC 322 card, Jack Della Medalena trying to keep his belt against Islam Makachev.

SPEAKER_01:

It'll be interesting to see him in his uh heightened uh weight class.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, very exciting. And we also have some interesting Reddit confessions.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_00:

So, Harley, let's get into the octagon and uh let's talk about the infamous eye poke scene around the world.

SPEAKER_01:

Jesus.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm at a loss for words, and uh when I watched this one, I was actually on my lunch hour. I was watching this fight specifically, and uh let me tell you, waiting fifteen months to see Tom Aspinall fight an actual undisputed heavyweight bount against an actual contender, and it ends with a first round not KO eye poke. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

That finishes it. Yep. Double eye poke. That one was particularly brutal.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree. I I it was bad, yes, I agree. And uh Jason Herzog pulling Tom Hasminel to the side and asking, You good, you good, and Tom just outright saying, I can't see uh repeating it. I can't see, um which as we have seen, um this actually happened previously in the Henry Sohudo fight when he said he couldn't see and the fight was stopped. Although a little different case where it's just in the first round and it was getting started.

SPEAKER_01:

It was Yeah, it was getting pretty good.

SPEAKER_00:

It was getting amazing. I mean, dude, like seeing two heavyweights move like this and fight like this, yeah, with with this amount of skill, it was very exciting. Uh seeing Tom bloodied up for like the first time ever, actually getting bloodied up a bit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I was I was unfortunately having connectivity issues at the time. So I would I would catch it for a few seconds and then it would buffer for like five to eight seconds, and I'd it would skip over that, and then like uh just before the eye poke, the last thing I had seen was that 55 seconds. And so it was almost twenty whole seconds before the eye poke. Oh wow. And so I came back in like probably five seconds after the eye poke, and I was just like, No, what damn it!

SPEAKER_00:

That's crazy. I mean, yeah, it was uh an unfortunate event that I don't know, man, uh even Cyril Gon falling to his knees in the middle of the octagon. Yeah, and you could see like how much this meant to both these guys and the honestly, the uh at a head arena, it was crazy how they all just blew up in booze and booing Tom Aspinall, 'cause I mean they already favored Cyril Gunn, it seemed like there, but the entire crowd booing and Tom getting very upset. Some of these cr crazy moments. I mean, I I could I remember back seeing him like trying to walk out of the cage before they even announce uh decision, and DC trying to pull him back, like, hey man, we got it, we gotta announce it, we gotta announce it. Alright. And he's like, with with that uh wet cloth in his eye. And then it just gets ruled they know contest, you know? Yep. It's a little I would say heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_01:

Majorly heartbreaking for both of them. Yes. And I've seen so many arguments on both sides of the fence about one of the ones I found to be most compelling would be from Jim Miller. Oh, yeah. And how he said he's had 43 UFC fights and he's never landed an eye poke. Yes. The problem's not the glove, it's the little bitch inside you avoiding the fight. And I have to kind of say it it feels compelling to me in that regard because genuinely speaking, those gloves, especially the newer ones, keep your hands kind of like you have to stretch and flex your hands in order to get your fingers out straight, the way they have them wrapped and the way the glove is structured. And so for you to have your fingers out like that, you're intentionally keeping your fingers out like that. And there is no good reason to do that unless you're hoping for an accidental eye poke, in my opinion. Yeah. You can you can cause the same level of distractionslash uh momentum checking by keeping your fist, even a loose, a real loose fist in their face. You don't have to have your fingers pointed at their eyeballs in order for that to be effective.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

And and also, like I've seen, I think he may have mentioned it, is that there's oh no, not him. Uh what's the that really prominent uh MMA podcaster? There's a couple, but uh Demetrius Johnson had a not him, the uh he he's not a fighter himself. Uh MMA guru? I think so. Ariel Hawani? That guy. That guy. Um I saw uh a snippet of his podcast and he was talking about how UFC's the only sport that has an accidental foul. And how the foul isn't a foul if it's accidental somehow. I guess. Only if they can prove it was intentional.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I I I agree with that point if that was the point to be made. Um more so it's different than any or every other sport, right? I mean I mean MMA, yes, it's definitely different than a lot of public sports. That was more so the comparison, I think the point that they were trying to make was like, you know, when basketball, when there's a foul in basketball, you get the two free throws. You know, when there's a foul and in baseball, it's it's a different kind of play, you know. Uh and it's a foul in football they call a flag, you know. It's just it's a different thing where I think it should be a major, like foul, like he's saying.

SPEAKER_01:

And and having only one point taken away is it's not much of a muchness, honestly. I think in like especially in like a high volume type fight situation.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it does really I think it might make a difference, at least starting out. I think they could experiment with that. I know there's an announcement coming soon about eye pokes and stuff like that. Uh I don't know. I don't know an official level. I want to see if it's an official um ruling on that, or if maybe Dana White has something to say about that. We'll see. Um this is just a rumor that I heard that they're possibly gonna make an announcement.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe, you know, they do the a point deduction, and I do think, like, especially in a very important fight, like a championship fight, a point does matter, you know. It can. I think it's a big big thing, especially being that, you know, losing a point makes you go out there and you gotta try to finish it, you know, you're you're down on the scorecard if that's the case, some on some cases. True.

SPEAKER_01:

And so But on the flip side, if it's just a point and that's the worst that's gonna happen to you, you're gonna lose the round anyway. Poke him in the eye. Like, what's the point? Alright. What's the point of having such a minor, relatively minor i i uh punishment? Could be I mean, I are I know, I know I was taken down three times this round and they hit me uh ten times more than I I hit them.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm a Pokemon in the eye, and then next round, even though I lost this round, which I was already losing anyway, so who gives a shit? Next round I'm gonna have an advantage. Because he can't see proper.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. That's kind of giving me some like John Jones kind of vibes.

SPEAKER_01:

Which is also disgusting, but uh we already know my views on John Jones.

SPEAKER_00:

And and I do think that, yeah, maybe it's just to start that there needs to be something, some sort of change on that. Uh what it is, I am not sure. I mean, they did try those new gloves and they got rid of 'em right away because there wasn't like as many knockouts or something, so they ended up going back to their original UFC gloves again.

SPEAKER_01:

Also, in conjunction with eye pokes, this also goes for like groin shots and stuff. You know, when you get two warnings before a point's taken away, like you're effectively giving them two free quote unquote accidents. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And like Seems like, yeah, like in the ref discretion.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but like it's there's so many ways to set up a quote unquote accident. Like it makes sense for me to do this move, sure, but also it's very easy for me to flub this move and have it slip and hit in a foul area. I know it's likely to hit there, but I'm gonna do it anyway because there's no real backlash if I do.

SPEAKER_00:

And you mentioned the two kick in the nuts, and you get a warning. That recently happened um with the Mike Mullot versus Kevin Holland fight where he got oh my god, the worst kick in the nuts, back to back, and didn't get a point taken away. Which is insane. And Kevin Holland continued to fight even though he he shouldn't have. It speaks to his toughness, but um speaks to his determination. Yeah, speaks to determination, but uh honestly, like the toughness doesn't always win the you know, championships and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Sometimes and that that's where it can be-take some of the wind out of your sails, just regardless, no matter how tough you are.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And which will go to the other side of the coin involving this Tom Aspinall fight, which is other comments and stuff like that online, are saying he was losing the first round to Cyril Gon and just looked for a way out. What what do you think about that statement?

SPEAKER_01:

If it wasn't such an intense poke, I could see that being a thing. Don't get me wrong. But when you hit when you see the close-up slow-mo of that, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's it's honestly mildly not even mildly, it's honestly kind of surprising that there wasn't like damage to his orb.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Or, you know, s outright just popping. Yes. You know, that it was deep. Very possible. And when you're that size of a human, those fingers are fucking huge. That's not that's not like a little finger just kind of lightly tapping your eyeball. That was crazy. That's that's a that's a giant chunk of flesh that's invading an incredibly delicate area. Absolutely. And it was two fingers. Yeah, you can double finger either side. You got the eyeball. Like you don't just bounce out of that and ignore it.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree. Two doctors getting into the cage and both saying like the eye look the orb looks fine.

SPEAKER_01:

If it was a life and death situation, absolutely you continue fighting. Right. But it what it's not that's not what this situation is.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree with that point too, yes.

SPEAKER_01:

This is a sport. He has to look out for his long-term health after this as well. Like, uh uh Cyril Ghan had been warned about the fingers twice. He did get warned twice. If you're warned twice and then you do that, honestly, it would be almost criminally negligent for Tom to continue a fight when he's been warned twice and then he did it anyway, and really landed a vicious poke. Double poke. The likelihood of him getting yet another poke potentially in the other eye or significantly worse than the eye that was already poked.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Extremely high. Extremely high if if someone is willing to ignore the warnings to that degree.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I I agree. Uh uh that's kind of to the point where uh something should have definitely been done. I don't know if this uh should have been ruled in no contest, but as I was saying, like two doctors getting into the cage and saying that the orb is fine, and then um we'll see to further results. Um but uh I recently saw that post with uh his father, which is also I believe his manager, um uh Aspinall, uh saying that he still can't see that well. It's still like 50% vision at the time of this recording. So I I I think yeah, if it's like to that point where it's it's uh like you were saying, it's a life and death, this is not a life and death situation. Uh and if he can't see, and this is a very dangerous division in the first place. But if you can't see in the heavyweight division, like you take one punch, it's over, you know? Yeah. That kind of thing. And uh if he couldn't see, he couldn't see uh w none of us are in that position to know exactly how how he felt in that moment. And uh I know that he like you were saying, a lot of controversy behind this. A lot of comments online, yeah. You know, of of either side of the coin, whether you're saying that this was right or you're saying this was wrong. But regardless, none of us know what what he felt like in that moment, you know. Uh I will say speaking of someone that you don't like, um we'll talk we'll talk about him like Voldemort. Um we'll call him John Jones, uh-huh. You know, recently stirring up some social media stuff alongside Alex Poeton Pereira and uh them uh actually going back and forth online with that video of uh Poeton watching the heavyweight fight and just shaking his head and laughing about that result of them stopping the fight right then and there goes on a tweet right after, Hey John Jones, let's make the heavyweight division great again. And uh John Jones saying, like, hell yeah, you know, like Yeah, he wants another chance to poke somebody in the eye. Possibly. And uh I'm it's it's leading to that they want to do this in the White House where John Jones wants to do this in the White House. Right. And so that's adding more layers to this already insanely complicated heavyweight division and the story of this belt, man.

SPEAKER_01:

To be fair, the only reason why it's been complicated is because of that sack of shit called John Jones. Frankly.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean you could say that, but it's it's just a little underwhelming. Seriously. The other Seriously? I mean the fight.

SPEAKER_01:

How long did he have the belt and not fight?

SPEAKER_00:

I agree.

SPEAKER_01:

I I agree that he had the belt and refused to fight the number one contender. I agree. I mean it's because of him.

SPEAKER_00:

It's annoying.

SPEAKER_01:

It's him and him alone that the heavyweight's in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00:

But I I will say a long Dana White, I was schlobbing on that knob.

SPEAKER_01:

The oil years.

SPEAKER_00:

The oil. All those oil comments that he would get all the time. Uh regardless, I meant more so the state of the heavyweight division now. I mean, we saw a couple heavyweight fights alongside in that card. And honestly, they look whack. I mean, we saw that Chris Barnett fight, that was whack. A bunch of blobs, like like people calling blobs, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

I didn't get to see that one.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh it was uh lame, super lame. And then we had uh that uh Rock uh Almida vr versus Volkov, and that was lame also.

SPEAKER_01:

Really? I didn't expect that. Uh usually Volkov is a pretty s pretty good fighter.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, uh they're saying that Almida just laid and preyed on him the whole time. Oh. And that's why he lost was I mean it set a precedence, I believe, this decision. Oh yeah. Uh and only um we'll go through the card also we'll talk about that Strawway fight, but I just want to touch up on that Volkov and that decision was set a precedence that you're not just gonna lay on someone and win. You know? Mm-hmm. Uh Almeda not throwing any strikes pretty much on that fight.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh I'm looking at the stats here, and it was 123 from Volkov and only twenty-seven from Almeida. Exactly. I'm sorry, but the fact that that was a split decision is disgusting. Disgusting.

SPEAKER_00:

It was lame. Uh Almida just bodying him in the wrestling the whole time, staying on top of him the whole time. Um, Volkov trying some escapes and stuff like that, but not really getting it, but still throwing strikes in between. And uh it Almida's getting a lot of hate, a lot of flack.

SPEAKER_01:

To be fair, yes, it was seven takedowns to zero. And that has an effect. Yes. If he's not doing Jack Diddly with it, then yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And exactly to my point, with uh, you know, Jum uh Jalton Almida coming in as the favorite into this one and just doing the wrestling, just taking him down and not doing anything with it, and ends up losing by split decision, setting a precedence for the UFC. I don't know if moving forward, we're gonna want to see more activity on the ground. If you're gonna do a takedown and do control, we gotta see some actual offense trying to get in there, you know, some sort of submission or something. Yeah. Uh, and not just lay and pray as a lot of people have been saying. Not me. I'm not saying they're saying it. You know.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm wholeheartedly I've I've been mildly vocal about this on multiple occasions. I control time should count for next to nothing, in my opinion. You're not doing anything. You're not doing anything with it. Like, what's the point? Minor mild exception would be like Mirab, because he's not throwing them on the ground and just staying on top of them for the rest of the round. He throws them on the ground, plays around with them a bit like a cat with a mouse, and lets them up and then does it all over again. That is significantly more entertaining and significantly more skill than say what uh I don't want to screw up this name, but Hamza. Like what Hamza does, which is literally just put them on the ground and keep them there. Like if you have any real skill, you need to be trying to do something with them. Honestly, I think I'm pretty certain the only reason why there's only like two reasons why Marab does what he does at first is so that he actually gets a long fight instead of, you know, a round one fight all the time. And also because he wanted that uh that record of most takedowns.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and uh we'll actually talk about Marab a little later in the episode. Uh and to my point, is the state of the heavyweight division and how honestly lame it is right now. Uh uh talking about that Chris Barnett fight versus Hamdi. Hamdi ended up getting, I think, cut from the UFC right after this when it's just lame, dude. Like Tom Aspinall and and Cyril Gunner, like the only two like heavyweights that honestly seem like they have the technical ability and the the movement to really contend against each other. And uh so it was very disappointing. And honestly, that's just what I'm saying is this the state of the heavyweight division is a little disappointing right now. Um going down that card, we did have that women's straw weight title bout without Shang Wei Lee. Yeah. Uh versus uh this was a rematch. Uh versus Verna Jandiro Joba versus Mackenzie Dern. And uh Mackenzie Dern, she has a lot of UFC fans, a lot of fans. It's crazy. Uh it's crazy to see for me. I'm not the biggest Mackenzie Dern fan. Um, but I did want to see this fight again because it's was five years removed from the original match. Right. So it wasn't too bad. But uh honestly, uh Mackenzie Dern gets it by unanimous decision, and it was a pretty it was a not the worst fight, but it did it was pretty close. It was pretty close in a lot of cases, yes. I agree with that. But ultimately what this showed me was that I miss seeing Whaley and put in that body bag. Because either one of these chicks would have been body bagged by Whaley, I think. That's what that showed me. Right. Was that oh my god, like Whaley would have put him in the blender, I think either one of them. So that's why. So that was like, you know, that's kind of sad. But we'll see how how that plays out, also, the the rest of that. I know that um I believe Mackenzie Dern called out Tatiana Suarez. We'll see if that fight gets made. And um hopefully the women's throw weight division ends up moving forward after uh losing Waley Zhang, her having her move up in weight uh to fight Valentina Shevchenko, which we'll talk about later on.

SPEAKER_01:

One minor note I do have to say not not exclusively for Dern, but Dern brought it to my attention is it's amazing the level of skill and conditioning that these women that some of these women are reaching after having had kids. Oh yes. Like the fact that you're being an active fighter at this level after having a kid is it it's it's m it's respectable. It's incredibly respectable. Absolutely, yeah. Mad mad props to her and to the others that are in similar boats.

SPEAKER_00:

Ma mad respect for that. Absolutely. And uh like like I was saying, we're let's just see if the women's straw weight division moves forward, um, and uh if she can continue to hold that belt. Uh which will be very impressive. I mean all around impressive. So uh after that we had that uh well before that we had that Bantamweight belt versus uh Umar and the Margaret Madaw versus Mario Batista. And uh this one was scrappy, man. This one was very scrappy. Uh Umar is showing a lot of different facets of his of his bag, honestly.

SPEAKER_01:

There was some really good movement from both of them, honestly. Yeah. But Umar looked really quick. He did. He looked like it looks like he's he he uh was maybe put through the ringer by Khib after that Marab loss has taken it to heart because he he was moving.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, uh absolutely. Uh and uh getting that unanimous decision win against Mario Bautista, Mario Bautista, who did not lose stock in this one at all. Honestly, in my opinion, he gained stock from this fight and uh the fight that he gave Umar knocking him down in round two with a nasty knee, and I was shocked, dude. Um but uh Umar getting right back up is also pretty crazy. Right. You know, that bounce back is is is amazing from these some of these Dagestani guys, but um like you were saying, I don't know um what happened in that camp with Kabib or whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

Um but there were a lot of memes after that. There was a lot of memes. Yeah, Umar going through hell from Kabir after after gassing out like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I'm sure, but I mean you you're going against a freak of nature, uh, which adds to my point uh Umar saying that he's ready to fight again as soon as possible, which is very rare coming from uh Umar who who doesn't fight all that often. Um face Marab again. And uh I can't blame him. I can't blame him. Uh we'll see how that plays out. I know that he wants to fight soon. I don't know how soon he's gonna be able to fight. Right. We still have to see the outcome of the Marab versus uh Pior Jan 2 and um that's possibly in December. Uh but also I'm pretty sure it's in December. Uh December 6th. December 6th, yeah. But uh I hope that nobody gets hurt. Oh, you're referencing that. Uh either way, uh we'll see how what that how that plays out in the uh men's bantamweight division. Uh then we had like I was talking about, we had uh Alexander Volkoff versus Jelten Omita, and uh very underwhelming performance by Jelton in the sense that not a lot of action on his end besides the takedowns and the control time or whatever. But uh very controversial split decision, Volkov getting that, um giving me glimpses of his l uh loss to Cyril Gunn, where I really thought Volkov won that Cyril Gunn fight.

SPEAKER_01:

Ah, yeah, I remember that one.

SPEAKER_00:

Remember that? And it and it just blew my mind, and people even in the uh uh interview afterward with Dana White, them asking, was this ret retribution for that Volkov lost to Cyril Gunn? And him saying, I don't have anything to do with it. Um but it's just very reminiscent of that.

SPEAKER_01:

I do remember more than a few people were confused after that that decision crazy went to Cyril Gunn. Really? I agree. And like that even that just that like that night I don't remember I can't remember specifics, but I do remember a few comments being made by the announcers that uh they were they were kind of surprised that the decision went down.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I remember it clearly, and I remember even Dana White coming up to Volkov and saying you got F. You got F, man.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

So obviously he saw it th that way as well, like that Volkov won that one. Uh regardless, Volkov winning a very crazy split decision, but uh setting that precedent as we spoke about earlier. That you have to do something with your takedowns. This was kind of an underwhelming card, I will say. A lot of decisions in this card, but the knockouts we did have were very exciting. For example, before that heavyweight bout, we had the light heavyweight bout, which was uh Rakich versus uh Rakich versus Dova? Yeah, we had that light heavyweight bout, uh Rockic versus Marzakanoff, and honestly, uh Marzakanoff is looking very dangerous. He hit him with a stiff jab that knocked him out, pretty much. A stiff jab. Put him on his ass. It was crazy. Uh which, you know, you know, it it tells me more so that how much you can do with a pretty stiff jab right on the jaw. A well-placed jab. And uh this jab in particular, it was very, very, very well placed. And I had to add the other very because that was amazing. Watching that was I was like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, and the one before that was scary.

SPEAKER_00:

And this one was scary. Um we had Nasra vs. Quillin for that lightweight boat. Getting Quillin that performance of the night with a nasty, incredible, disgusting head kick that landed flush.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, the way he flopped after impact was honestly pretty alarming. Very alarming. I saw it after the fact and I knew he was he had come out of it, but still in the moment, uh that had to have been pretty alarming.

SPEAKER_00:

It was it was very scary, um, especially that he was on the floor for so long, especially that he was slightly convulsing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But anyway, I digress. Uh uh he I believe he's okay right now, and uh we'll you know, we're hoping for more updates. Uh, you know, obviously he has to take some time off. But uh Quillin, honestly, very exciting head kick uh earning him performance of the night, getting him that bonus, and honestly, that was probably one of the most exciting things of the night, honestly. And in round one, too. In round one, and it was in the prelims, so uh good on Quillin. Uh we'll see how what what he goes through later. I know that he recently came on interview on Ariel Hawani and said that he wants to fight soon uh as quick as his foot heals because apparently I think he messed his foot up, kicking him in the head.

SPEAKER_01:

I saw a broken clip of his interview that his foot got broken. That's insane. Well, I mean, I'm sure it's a relatively minor fracture, but crazy still.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so giving his time to heal, but um he wants to fight soon. Before that one, um, I was excited to see this one. Was that Eliscaroff vs. Jungyoung Park? And uh Alex Garoff pulling that one in a unanimous decision, but I don't know. Uh that one was kind of underwhelming too, to be honest. Uh we had that Klein versus Rebeski. That one was very exciting with another uh uh getting it the fight of the night, but Klein locking it in in the third round when he got taken down. He said his foot was complet or his leg was completely broken, I believe his foot on that one. Uh I don't I don't recall how exactly he broke it. I think he broke it getting taken down. Um but that was a dog fight. And honestly, Rabeski has been in nothing but dog fights earning Klein the majority decision on that one, and uh I believe he won.

SPEAKER_01:

What's the difference?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh what's the difference between uh majority and split decision? Uh well a majority is regular decision and regular decision obviously regular decision is unanimous decision, right? And then split is when uh two judges pick a winner, but obviously the third judge doesn't. A majority is when uh two judges pick a winner and one picks a draw. So uh this was a close fight, but I think Klein had the offense more so on this one. But Rebeski, like I said, man, that guy's been in nothing but dog fights and wars, which is not too good for his health. Now that I think about it, I mean the last fight he had a massive hematoma. Really? It looked like Mount Masuvius on his forehead. Uh and then this one, another dog fight, it's just it's kind of crazy to me.

SPEAKER_01:

There's only so much your body can handle that nonsense.

SPEAKER_00:

It's crazy. I mean, damn. He's been in nothing but wars, and I don't think that's too good for your face. But either way, before that one, we had a heavyweight bout, underwhelming performance by Louis Sutherland, and uh expected performance by Valter Walker, Johnny Walker's brother, getting another heel hook win is insane. I don't that's four heel hooks.

SPEAKER_01:

Seriously.

SPEAKER_00:

In a row?

SPEAKER_01:

In a row?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. That's crazy. Wow, you had to be wildly under prepared for heel hooks? Do not realize that he's gonna try and pull that on you and not figure out how to get out of it.

SPEAKER_00:

And this fight in the press conference, he literally had an ankle hanging around his neck. So you know it's coming. Wow. You know it's coming, you know the heel hooks are coming. Uh, but uh a lot of people talking to Smack more so about the heavyweight division, saying like these blobs are not prepared for these heel hooks, as you were saying. I did not say this. This was commented, okay? Don't get at me. Uh regardless, yeah. The uh Louis Sutherland gets submitted by heel hook in the first round in a minute and twenty-four. Uh it's just crazy to me. I don't know how many heel hooks this guy's gonna go for. Uh maybe he's gonna take it all the way to the championship, just heel hooks. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh hey, if he can get there on it, why not?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yeah, I guess if he's just locking it in, it's just good.

SPEAKER_01:

And then we had that as long as he's prepared to deal with someone who might actually handle that. Handle that, yeah by the time he gets into it.

SPEAKER_00:

Um a title control that he loses by heel hook.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that would be wicked.

SPEAKER_00:

Crazy. Um and he had a pretty funny moment in in the interview I remember the translator, him telling the translator, and then the translator saying what he was saying, but then he goes, I speak English too. I I'm gonna speak three languages. He says, I took two heels to Brazil and two heels to Russia. And it was like, What the hell? Both of his home places, I guess. Uh very interesting though. And uh before that, Nathaniel Wood versus Delgado, another unanimous decision, boring. Had that Hamdi fight versus Chris Barnett, uh Hamdi Abdelwalla, and honestly, very underwhelming fight. Uh, I thought it was lame, to be honest, and uh that this was another disappointment for the heavyweight division. Uh, because Chris Barnett is is he can be intriguing, but uh not this one.

SPEAKER_01:

You were saying earlier that you thought Hamdi was let go? Yeah. Even though he won?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I I I uh according to sources it says yes, Hamdi was has been cut from the USC despite winning his most recent fight. Uh I guess it was more so that his contract concluded and it just didn't really resign him.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh yeah, I see on his web on his uh UFC page it says not fighting.

SPEAKER_00:

Very unfortunate, but uh honestly lackluster performance by both these guys. Uh a lot of people cut uh calling for Chris Barnett to being cut online. Uh very unfortunate scenario that he's in right now. Uh but uh kind of a losing streak if I'm not mistaken. So not looking good. And then uh from there we'll move on to another very interesting fight card. Uh uh, we'll just go through some of the ones that are coming up is Bonfeme vs. Brown. That's a fight night, which is gonna be November 8th. Uh so it already had passed by the time of this recording. Uh by the time of this release, we had that Bonfame vs. Brown. Uh very underwhelming card on that one. Uh looks like a less than stellar UFC card. But right after we have a masterpiece treat coming up Saturday, November 15. That UFC 322, Jack Dela vs. Makachev.

SPEAKER_01:

That one has promise.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh very excited to see this one, very excited to see the implications of these fights, which are massive. Two title fights on this card. Jack Dela Madalena trying to get keep his belt against the uh Islam Makachev going up in weight class. And see how he does with that weight, added weight, like you were saying. And we had another uh flyweight title belt for that one is Valentina Shevchenko trying to retain her belt against Zhang Wei Li going up in weight class. It's just all kinds of exciting those two fights.

SPEAKER_01:

There's a lot of weight changing.

SPEAKER_00:

A lot, yeah, a lot going on. I mean, also Ili Toparia going up in weights 155.

SPEAKER_01:

Pereira.

SPEAKER_00:

It's crazy. It's uh crazy the state of the UFC right now, but very exciting. Uh Sean Brady versus Michael Morales on that card. That is uh that should be an absolute banger. Both these guys very exciting. Sean Brady trying to keep uh keep going on his run right now and trying to get that number one spot. Uh which he had a very impressive win against Leon Edwards recently. That was very impressive. Uh Bo Nickel getting a chance now on a main card again versus Rodolfo Vieira. And uh hopefully Bo Nickel has made some adjustments, you know. Not get hit in the body like that.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, so long as uh Rodolfo doesn't start pulling out the knees, I think Bo Nickel will do okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And to start the main card out, very exciting, Leon Edwards versus Carlos Prates. Carlos Prates coming out from one of the nastiest spinning elbow knockouts that we've ever seen against Jeff Neil. And uh Leon Edwards coming off a loss, she should be very determined. But uh this is I don't know, Slater to be very exciting, man. Very exciting.

SPEAKER_01:

There's some good potential here for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh um unless w one or the other shuts each other down, it's it's gonna be a uh a nasty fight. And uh honestly, some of these prelims are also very exciting. We got Benil Dariush coming off a win, and uh Benoit Saint-Denis coming off a win.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'm kind of surprised to see ranks going on in the previous prelims there. It's looking for ranking fights.

SPEAKER_00:

It's looking good. Uh uh Roman Kopolov coming off a loss versus uh uh Gregory Rodriguez, Robocop coming off that nasty knockout, which was also another scary knockout. Yeah. Uh Aaron Blanchfield versus Tracy Cortez. Tracy Cortez, a big following. A lot of people like her, uh, so a lot of people are gonna be tuning in for that one. And uh Malcolm Wellmaker is a very exciting prospect. Have seen him in some nasty knockouts uh versus uh Cody Haddon, so this should be a very exciting fight, also one to look out for, I guarantee it. And then we're we're getting another treat uh closer to the end of November. We got that UFC Fight Night, Saturday, November 22nd. Oh my god, that one's shaping up to be another banger that we're gonna see on a fight night card. Look at that. Armin Sarukian versus Dan Hooker as a number one contender fight. Uh I think this should be another banger.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's gonna be an early one starting at 11.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, 11 a.m. Uh they're gonna do this one in Qatar. Uh I'm gonna watch this one for sure. This is just gonna be not one to miss. Uh afterward, I mean, before that is that Bala Muhammad versus Ian Machado Gary. Boo. So we're gonna see who's gonna be the most hated in the UFC. That's what they're fighting for. Most hated in the UFC belt is what they're gonna try to fight for. Um honestly, these are some of the two most like uh infamous guys right now, and uh seeing them fight each other should be very exciting. And uh who knows what we'll see at the end of that fight, whether booze or not. Um but we'll see. Uh before that one, Vulcan Ozdemir versus Menifield. That should be uh I someone's gonna get knocked out in that one, I'm sure. Uh Jack Hermanson versus Orobai. Uh Orobai trying to you know get back up there with the with those wins. Uh uh another heavyweight after that one, Sergei Spivak vs. Gazeev. I'm very excited to see Gazeev and uh see if he could take down Spivak or not. So there's some pretty exciting fights on this card, honestly. And uh specifically like the top three are are are absolute bangers to me.

SPEAKER_02:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh so uh pretty excited to see that one. And uh I I know that we were talking about the aforementioned Mirab.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh so we're gonna be seeing him do a quick turnaround uh after that dominant win against Corey Sanhagen. Oh, okay. And uh coming off of that win, turning around and facing uh Peter Jan for a rematch, getting his fourth title defense in a y calendar year, trying to break that other record. So it's it's pretty exciting to see this guy. Uh not to mention that he's getting closer to the Anderson Silva 16 win fight streak. So this is all r all kinds of exciting to see him, Rob, and the implications behind him fighting. Uh so that should be a fairly exciting card. I mean, right under that we have another very exciting fight. It's gonna be scrappy, I guarantee it. That flightweight that flyweight uh title is gonna be on the line versus Joshua Van, and we'll see if uh Alexander Pantoja can keep his belt. Honestly, I think he can. I think he can, yeah, for sure. Uh I think he's a very dominant champion, and he's also one of my favorite fighters in the UFC is Pantoja, and to see his dominance of that division is just crazy to me. Um and uh calling for a super fight between him and Marab, who knows if that'll ever happen or not, but maybe those are the only two guys that stand a chance against each other. Who knows? Uh but Joshua Van sh should make it a pretty exciting fight. I hope he's prepares himself in all aspects of MMA, not just the striking, you know. Yeah. And uh Jan Blahovitz versus Bogdan Guskov. Jan is uh on the older side now, but uh he he put up a great fight against Poeton their first time around. I remember that one clearly. And uh let's see if he still has what it takes to continue to win in that division.

SPEAKER_01:

The fact that he lasted all three rounds is you know, against him, against Ferrara, it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00:

So I mean, earning him a c a controversial loss, actually, because a lot of people thought that Alex lost that fight. Yeah. Uh but the decision was ultimately made. Another exciting fight in that flightweight division coming up after that, uh, before that is that Brandon Moreno versus uh Tatsuro Tayara. I mean, dude, that's gonna be a scrap for sure. So that one's very exciting to me. And that's gonna be uh uh uh that UFC 323. Uh we have that Mohammed versus uh Marion Santos, Mohammed Naima versus Santos, and Henry Sohuto versus Peyton Talbot. A fight that no one saw coming. Henry Sohuto announcing that this will be his final fight win or lose. So yeah, let's see uh how that one goes for him. Uh and Marvin Vittori vs. Bruno Ferreira is gonna be on the card. Marvin Fittori trying to make that comeback uh that he recently lost to Brandon Allen. So Brendan Allen making that uh crazy upset versus De Ritter, huh? Can't forget about that one. Uh and then uh it later in that card, Macy Barber versus uh Karin Silva, another exciting fight. And Edson Barbosa versus Jalen Turner. That's gonna be an absolute banger. I think both these guys very exciting fighters in uh their own, respectively.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And so the the a couple exciting uh fights being added to this. I know Terrence McKinney and Chris Duncan's getting added. Um, and we'll see how the rest of the card plays out coming up. And that's gonna be Saturday, December 6th, 8 p.m. That's gonna be in the Team Oba arena in Las Vegas. A lot of great fights happen in Las Vegas, but Marab trying to get that record, trying to keep his belt and inching closer to surpassing even more greatness. It's crazy to me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean, if anyone can do it, he has a pretty darn strong chance to.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, he definitely does. Um I have very high opinion on Marab and his greatness, so it's uh pretty exciting to see it continue. And uh we'll get out of the octagon and we'll do some uh Reddit confessions for you guys. I know we got some pretty exciting ones.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know about exciting, but certainly juicy.

SPEAKER_00:

That could be exciting. The juice could be exciting, yeah. Like jungle juice.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, don't put it that way. Gross.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh the juice can be exciting in more ways than one, and I'm not talking about OJ. Cut that out.

SPEAKER_01:

We don't need to bring Simpson into this.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm telling our producer to cut it out right now.

SPEAKER_01:

Alrighty, our first confession, aptly enough, will be from the confessions subreddit. No way. Uh no, it's surprising, shocking even. And this is by Green Auspices. Their title is I Tell My Friends I'm Meal Prepping Every Sunday, but I'm really just ordering takeout and putting it in containers. They always talk about how productive their Sundays are, cooking, cleaning, getting their week together. So I started saying I do meal prep too. Truth is, I just order a bunch of takeout, portion it into containers, and throw out the evidence before they come over. They'll open my fridge, see neat little rows of food, and go, Wow, you're so organized. Meanwhile, I'm nodding like yeah, I totally made that chicken teriyaki myself. Last weekend I was sitting there pla playing my prize and eating one of my prepped meals and realized I've been living a double life as a fake healthy person. Not proud, but also kind of proud.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean their determination is uh intriguing to say the least, but damn, going to all that lengths to get a facade to little facade is is crazy to me.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I understand it to a point in that you want to fit in with a certain group of people and you just couldn't be f to do that specific thing that they do. I understand that. But like one of these commenters says, uh, no assumption 6165. They say, I mean, you're still meal prepping laughing face. Just because you didn't cook the food doesn't mean you aren't planning for future meals. Just count it it still counts in my books. Shrugging emoji.

SPEAKER_00:

That's crazy. Uh yeah, exactly. I mean, they're still technically meal prepping, but they're not meal prepping their own food. Yeah. Uh and they're not living the healthy lifestyle by counting calories and all of that kind of stuff, you know. Um I mean, damn. And really wants to be friends with them.

SPEAKER_01:

There is that, and then also this comment I feel is a little pertinent to this, and it's from Honest Gal777. It's disheartening to realize how social pressure changes how people feel they need to be in certain situations to socially fit in. If these people are your true friends, you wouldn't feel the need to live that double life. Just be yourself and say, Yeah, I spend my Sundays doing, in parentheses, whatever it is you're doing, and let that be enough for you and them. You will be a happier person in the end. What you're doing sounds exhausting.

SPEAKER_00:

It does. Uh that's kind of to my point, like, damn, I don't know if I don't want to be living a lie the whole time, because then that seems like unnecessary stress. Uh being yourself is a lot more freeing. Just ask me. Um sorry.

SPEAKER_01:

That I tickled my funny button. Tickle your pickle. Don't tickle my pickle.

SPEAKER_02:

Too late.

SPEAKER_01:

Um anyway.

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

Don't f point at me like that. What?

SPEAKER_00:

Like Ricky Bobby, I don't know what to do with my hands. I'm just lifting my hands up, I don't know what to do with my hands. You pointed at me. People are gonna be like, why aren't you doing videos? Um those are some pretty interesting comments, so I mean uh sucks to be them living a lie. I don't know how long they'll be able to keep it up, but eventually you'll be like, ah, screw it, I just don't wanna do that meal prep thing anymore, you know?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I mean, in a in a way, kinda like how the first commenter was saying, it is technically meal prepping. You were you're planning out your future meals and you're getting them sorted out in such a way that it's easy to reheat. Sure. And you don't have to think about it later in the later in the week. It you're spending more money. A lot of money. You're spending a lot more money. But if the convenience factor is more important than that extra bit of money, then you do you.

SPEAKER_00:

They're a baller.

SPEAKER_01:

There's a lot of people that view DoorDash as just a normal expense. Yeah. But anyway, I digress. What's your confession?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, my confession Well, not your direct confession. You already know what my confession is. Bobby Flay, I'm hoping you're listening. Uh regardless, uh I digress. Uh my confession is from True Off My Chest. By Ocarina Determiner. And I'm assuming they're from the UK. Just based on how the story goes, is the title is My Dad Died and left three million pounds to my two younger brothers, twenty-one and twenty-three, and I got zero. Oof Oof. Uh short way. Uh uh especially what they say later on. My dad passed away a few months ago, and I learned just yesterday he left the whole roughly three million pound estate to my two younger brothers. I got nothing. The reason I'm a woman and quote, my future husband will provide for me. I'm a twenty-seven-year-old female, single, and nowhere near getting married. I worked hard to be independent and still got treated like I don't need support because someday a man might do it for me. My brothers aren't struggling, but they took it without a word. I feel gutted and angry that even in 2025 my worth to my own family was tied to some stupid sexist idea that my imaginary future husband will take care of me. Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. That's wow. Uh in conjunction with that I could not imagine as a sibling taking that money and not not portioning off some of it for my sibling who was clearly ousted like that. Like that's that's beyond me. I I can't I can't imagine that. And I'm not even that particularly close to some of my siblings. But they're still my siblings, dang it. You know? That's wild. It's sad. That is wild behavior.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh and one interesting comment um that was posted twenty-three days ago by a tambourine chicken. Uh, under UK law, you might actually have a case here. The inheritance, uh in parentheses, provision of family independence act in 1975, lets disinherited children challenge wills that don't make reasonable provision. If your dad really said what he said, uh cross post this to Legal Advice UK, they'll point you in the right direction, hopefully. I'm sorry for your loss, OP. I really hope you get your fair share of the inheritance you deserve.

SPEAKER_01:

Dang. I mean that's that's good advice. But on the flip side, at this point she might not even want anything of it, but still feel you know, still feel upset about it, but not want anything of that money because she might feel it's contaminated effectively.

SPEAKER_00:

And uh frankly, very disappointing that we still have to deal with that kind of stuff. And uh set I mean, as a parent, I mean I'm sure most people would be like, you have to take care of your children, you know. That's why there's college funds, that's why there's uh, you know, life insurance and wills and things like that is to take care of your children that are your flesh and blood. It's uh pretty unfortunate to see.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I even if you were expecting your daughter to just magically come across the perfect man to fully take care of her. To leave nothing of that much money to her for any reason at all is crazy. In my eyes. But anyway, we can talk about that in circular motions as much as we want, but we won't get anywhere because he's dead and we can't talk to him. I don't want to talk to him anyway. Nah. So also in confessions from I meant also from Confessions by Savage Clap. I don't have to work anymore, but I still wake up early just to cause traffic What? Yeah, this one's this one's wild.

SPEAKER_02:

Diabolical.

SPEAKER_01:

A few years ago I came into enough money that I never have to work again.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

The first months felt like freedom, but the longer I stayed out of the routine, the less I felt anything. So now I wake up early, get in my car, and drive during Russia. Hour. I don't have a destination. I drive slow, take up space, and make the flow of traffic worse on purpose. I don't get angry. I don't laugh. I don't feel guilt. I just wash watch people. I just watch people rush past me stressed and tired the way I used to be. I think it's the only time I feel connected to anything anymore. Existing is an obstacle in other people's lives. I know it's pointless, but I still do it. Every morning. In fact, I just got done creating a huge chunk of traffic roughly an hour ago. Signed.

SPEAKER_00:

Savage Clap. Savage Clap, you are an animal. Uh frankly, you're savage. I mean the name says it. And uh damn, there's actually people like that that really have nothing better to do. Where you tell people like, damn, that person has nothing better to do but to make my life hell. Well, ladies and gentlemen, there's someone who literally is that person that is living to make your life hell. Literally, not figuratively.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Crazy. And uh the top comment by a moosey jello. Can you give a guess as to what you think it might be?

SPEAKER_00:

Something moosey, I'm assuming. No, no.

SPEAKER_01:

Or about their name, their name doesn't have anything to do with Care to Hazard a guess on what the comment might be in general about. That he hates 'em? No. It's three words. You need therapy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, damn. That's that's legitimate. Or a hobby. Something that actually takes up your time.

SPEAKER_01:

Both, because if you feel that disconnected and you can't you can't find a purpose It's it's not healthy for you to find your purpose in ruining other people's day. It's it's not a healthy thing to find purpose in. In especially just your average random person. If you went around and were going out of your way to ruin, you know, terrible people's day, that's that's something. But just random people who are just trying to get to work, that's that's kind of diabolical. And then uh by serial killer cutie, if you don't, says, dude, not gonna lie, this sounds pretty effed up. I get the whole lost without routine thing, but there's gotta be better ways to feel connected again. Volunteering or joining clubs, maybe, instead of messing up folks' day because it's before it's even begun, you know? Just a thought. And then the reply to that, which is also incredibly pertinent, by no video ninety-five fifty-seven, says that takes compassion. Something OP clearly lacks.

SPEAKER_00:

Should have put this one in Mammy the Am I the Asshole.

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, they wouldn't have done that because they know damn well they're the asshole.

SPEAKER_00:

Easy. And uh speaking of assholes. Um No, I don't know. I don't know whether this person's uh it depends on your point of view. But I'll also under confessions it's by bike underscore thief underscore You're already an asshole for being a bike thief. Okay? Don't do that. Uh title is I'm suspecting my friend is faking her mental illness.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00:

I had a close friend who says she has disassociative identity disorder, D.I.D., previously named as multiple personality disorder. Mm-hmm. In the first years of our friendship, I never noticed any behaviors that pointed towards that. She had trauma and emotional struggles that I was aware of, but nothing that made me think of DID under her therapist suggested diagnosis. Uh which I'm assuming it wasn't like I guess legit get diagnosed, I'm not sure. Right. Uh after that, everything suddenly changed. She started talking about switching, quote unquote, naming different alter um personalities, and acting like different people. It all felt like it came out of nowhere. I couldn't help but wonder if her therapist had unintentionally planted the idea. That happens. Another thing I noticed is how her symptoms seemed to depend on her circumstances. When she was working, she barely ever mentioned her altars. But whenever she had a few days off, especially weekends, she'd go into crisis again. Sometimes she'd harm herself or or take an overdose, saying later that it was one of her altars that did it. Eventually she stopped working altogether, and things spiraled. She started ending up in hospital sever several times a week. I can't help but feel sometimes the altars become a way for her to avoid responsibility, maybe not consciously, but as a kind of escape from guilt or consequences. Boy, this some pretty uh deep thinking there. What also makes me doubt it is that DID is extremely rare to be properly diagnosed. I read enough to know that it's often misinterpreted or overdiagnosed, and that adds to my confusion. Especially because before the diagnoses, quote unquote, there was no clear signs of it. Sometimes I feel like a bad person for thinking this because I know she's been through a lot, and I might be completely wrong. But something about the timing and the way it all unfolded just doesn't add up, and I don't know how to make sense of it till this day. Edit I wanted to add that I don't doubt she has a mental issue slash trauma. For three years since she got the diagnosis, I saw on a daily basis how bad on a daily basis how this was destroying her. In the beginning I would sit next to her, bedside in the hospital for many nights. I saw her suffering. I just doubt if DID is the cause of her issues. And I'm assuming this person had a lot of comments. Edit 2 I never expose my doubts toward her, and I'm not planning on doing that either.

SPEAKER_01:

Hmm. Deep. That one that one's pretty deep. And based on the information presented in the way it has been presented, I do find myself doubting as well. Mainly because I personally have experienced more than a couple people who are hypochondriacs. And if they get it into their head that they have something, magically they have it. Can they get diagnosed by it? No. Do they take medication for it and it doesn't change anything? Yes. It's it's unfortunately common. And we've we've kind of touched on this before on the self-diagnostics, like through TikTok and such before. And given that the therapist didn't actually diagnose her, simply says or how did they put it uh that they suggested that it could be a diagnosis? And therapists do that all the time because they're trying to figure it out too. Because they only see you well, depending on how often you go, but not many people can afford to go more than one or two times a month. And if you're doing that, your therapist isn't going to have a super clear view of what issues you're actually dealing with on a day-to-day basis. Even if you are somehow managing to go to therapy multiple times a week, if all you're doing is presenting your therapist a certain picture, that's gonna be their view of your entire life. You know?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and uh to that point to keep it short and sweet, I mean uh we're never really truly like I was saying before, like we don't know how someone really truly feels. Um uh and i honestly them getting like a legit diagnosis on this is very important. I I know it's very hard to diagnose, it's like kind of a rare thing, like they were saying, but um uh who knows what this person is going through. I mean they're clearly going through something. They're going through something, yeah. Um and honestly, like this commenter says, uh interleukin 710 sounds like a pretty severe borderline personality disorder, which some people think is primary diagnosis in disassociative identity disorder. It is just more severe manifestation of borderline with extra element of quote unquote altars. She may not necessarily have true alter identities, but the reality is all of this is a manifestation of her mental health struggles, putting it really eloquently. Whatever name you give it, give to it is less important. Edit, I also want to add that you really need to guard your energy energy around these people because they can be pretty uniquely exhausting and will take, take, take from you emotionally and almost never give anything back. Not saying you should not be friends with them, but saying that you should be guarded and have firm boundaries.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

The firm boundaries I definitely second, because if you don't have them and you don't respect them yourself, it is way too easy to have to have a situation where you get taken advantage of or just completely drained of your own mental health. And while you might want to be there for someone who's going through a crisis, if you can't be there and be present as yourself, as your best self for them, you're not doing a service to them.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So you have to protect yourself in order to give of yourself. At least that's my view of it.

SPEAKER_00:

I completely agree. It's uh it's uh very interesting scenario, and I hope that OP's friend um gets the mental help that they need.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Alright. And for the last confession I'll be reading, also from Confessions, or Confession Reddit. This is by expert you 8313. I confess that I talked to a mannequin like it was a person. Just to clarify, this is a translated post. So if you find it you might read it in a different language or what have you, but this is how it was translated for me. I was distracted, waiting for my sister in a store, and I see someone next to me with a cool outfit, and I say, That jacket is nice. What brand is it? Total silence. I pause, I look closely, it was a mannequin. And the worst part, an employee saw me and says, Doesn't talk much, but dresses well.

SPEAKER_00:

Always fashionable.

SPEAKER_01:

I ended up laughing with him, and now every time I pass by that store, he says to me, Your friend is still there.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man. Can't go to that store anymore. Gotta go to another store, man.

SPEAKER_01:

As a confession, it's not deep, but it is pretty amusing because most people have had maybe not necessarily a uh super similar incident, but most people have not been paying the mo utmost attention and you know, pull to push door or similar incident. Yeah. So it's it's just amusing to have a little little thing like that to reflect upon and remind you that it is it is probably a good idea to pay a little bit more attention to your surroundings.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And um so I'll give a quick personal uh confession, uh kind of speaking to your always watch your surroundings kind of thing. And I still live my life like this to this day. Uh I remember going to one of those Sadie Hawkins dances like a long time ago, like in middle school.

SPEAKER_01:

I've heard of those, but I don't really know anything about them.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh where I think if the girl asks you or something, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, that rings a bell.

SPEAKER_00:

Um but uh I was with the girl and we were with a couple friends, and uh we were in that little Sadie Hawkins dance, and the music was uh lame, I guess. I don't know. And me trying to be the cool guy, I'm like Sheeh, let me talk to the DJ. Let me let me make some requests and let me get this sh let me get this poppin', right? Uh-huh. That was my initial intention. And so walking up to the auditorium, because it was like on those little stages, like the school stages, you know, the little school stages where you just gotta kinda go up there. Uh that's where the DJ was. So I'm looking at the DJ, and the little DJ's looking at me while I'm walking up, and I go and I jump up to try to get on top of the stage, like be all cool. Boom. I like straight hit the lip of the stage with my shoe, and boom, face forward. And and everybody just staring at me. And me thinking that the adult DJ was gonna be an adult and help me out. Bro, he's pointing and laughing at me. When in reality, his music was whack, and that's why I needed to go up there, but all around, very embarrassing. And uh I was like, man, let's let's get out of here. This this place is whack. This place is stupid, this place is stupid, and the DJ sucks. And uh I'll never forget you, DJ, for pointing and laughing at me.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, to be fair, as a DJ, he was hired to DJ, not to be a custodian of a silly little kid who's trying to jump on a stage, trying to be all cool in front of his friends.

SPEAKER_00:

Trying to be all cool in front of the girl. I ended up getting a body bag. But now, to this day, I always watch my step. If you notice, I've never tripped. Yeah, I don't never tripping, homie.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't really trip, personally myself.

SPEAKER_00:

Lesson learned. Never want to trip, especially around people. Especially in front of DJs. Because they'll point and laugh at you. They will. And um, I don't know. Glad I can give someone a little laugh out there, but uh, we'll go ahead and end this episode, Harley. Um I should have kept my gloves up, maybe I wouldn't have fallen, right, like face flat, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

You hadn't learned that lesson.

SPEAKER_00:

I hadn't learned that lesson yet. And I got cooked, but uh if you could go ahead and like and subscribe, that'd be greatly appreciated. Leave a comment. Um if that was funny, put a la mayo, I don't know. Uh, and thank you for listening, and we'll catch you on the next one.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, we will.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you for listening, and have yourself an excellent day.

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